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[Nightsoul1]

The only decent looking armor is the new qunarie armor.  The new armor from the deep roads,, I'm sure looks great on a male, But I feel like I'm wearing my dads 50 year old qunarie armor and I'm a elf female. Come on bio ware ,, cater to your female plays who want to look FEMALE.

[thats1evildude]

On a related note, a Google image search for Chainmail Bikini turns up far more pictures of RL girls wearing them than fictional ones.

[Drasanil]

The only decent looking armor is the new qunarie armor.  The new armor from the deep roads,, I'm sure looks great on a male, But I feel like I'm wearing my dads 50 year old qunarie armor and I'm a elf female. Come on bio ware ,, cater to your female plays who want to look FEMALE.

 

 

Shhhh... Don't say that! The local SJWs will report you to Bioware's thought police. Everyone knows you can't play a proper/empowered female character unless she looks and acts exactly like a man.

[MrMrPendragon]

Designing female armor in a Bioware game may just be the most difficult job in the entire game-making process. I can just imagine the designers and their team lead drawing straws to see who gets the job.

 

People always say "There's a balance between looking fit for battle and looking sexy", but is there really a balance? If there is, nobody knows what it looks like. There's always something wrong.

 

Even in DAi all the armors cover up a woman's ass, or am I the only one noticing that? Every shirt/armor/robe - whatever, either has a trench coat thing going on or the upper portion is just one giant box-shaped armor that extends all the way to your female character's thighs

[berelinde]

I was kinda disappointed that the female variant of the templar armor was a slightly narrower version of the male armor instead of the kind Lysette and other female templars wear. Mind you, I wouldn't have minded if the males got that armor, too. It's ridiculously impractical, but I like the aesthetics of it.

 

Maybe my tastes are strange, but I like the trench coats. The "mail" variants are a bit boxy and I detest how the leather pieces don't change color with the leather used (am I the only one who calls them "mud flaps"?), but the long coat and cutaway coat with sash are fine.

[Sleekshinobi]

Designing female armor in a Bioware game may just be the most difficult job in the entire game-making process. I can just imagine the designers and their team lead drawing straws to see who gets the job.

 

People always say "There's a balance between looking fit for battle and looking sexy", but is there really a balance? If there is, nobody knows what it looks like. There's always something wrong.

 

Even in DAi all the armors cover up a woman's ass, or am I the only one noticing that? Every shirt/armor/robe - whatever, either has a trench coat thing going on or the upper portion is just one giant box-shaped armor that extends all the way to your female character's thighs

 

Yea I noticed this as well. I remember reading a response by the devs somewhere on the board that said that they intentionally use more masculine armor designs for women because it is less likely they will offend people.

[nici2412]

Yea I noticed this as well. I remember reading a response by the devs somewhere on the board that said that they intentionally use more masculine armor designs for women because it is less likely they will offend people.

Any source for that? If that's true my opinion about Biwoare would reach a new low and I didn't believe that would be even possible.

[Bfler]

If you visit a medieval event, most women look either like a maid, or wear "curve-accentuated" light leather armor .

 

With that I guess it isn't wrong to add some feminine looking armor for people who like it.

[Korva]

Funny, the personal insults and the "thought policing", complete with "SJW" sneers, seems to come much more often from people who insist on a binary male/female prensentation, and those of us who don't like that are usually told to STFU and deal with it, or GTFO.

 

A woman is a woman is a woman. There is no one way to "look female", or "more female". I'm fine with a few impractical outfits, if they are 1) a choice, and 2) apply to both genders equally. A bouncy banana hammock for every chainmail bikini.

[SurelyForth]

Like, is it the worst thing in the wold that in this one game, you don't have full access to objectify female PCs while they're "at work"? Is it really the worst thing for them to have actually listened to players who are sick of 99% of games making female armor default to scanty and impractical? It's not like the Inquisitor is wearing a cardboard box, or an actual sack. The light and medium armors are pretty form-fitting, as are the loathed Skyhold pajamas. As for the new armor, it's just ugly all around. I'm guessing anyone who spends that much time that far down are prioritizing function over form.

 

(and I'm going to guess that if any quote exists about armor-styling, it is pretty far away from "not wanting to offend players". BW has never phrased any of their design directives that way- even Gaider's saltiest commentaries about inclusiveness has addressed the people upset about it rather than those who want more) 

[Zarathiel]

I think you two missed the part where the OP is female.

 

Incidentally, the new mage armor from Descent does look like a burlap sack, especially on females, since male character models at least have more body mass and broader shoulders to fill it out better.

[MattH]

The new armour is just bad, male or female.

[Drasanil]

 

Funny, the personal insults and the "thought policing", complete with "SJW" sneers, seems to come much more often from people who insist on a binary male/female prensentation, and those of us who don't like that are usually told to STFU and deal with it, or GTFO.

 

A woman is a woman is a woman. There is no one way to "look female", or "more female". I'm fine with a few impractical outfits, if they are 1) a choice, and 2) apply to both genders equally. A bouncy banana hammock for every chainmail bikini. 

 

Butt-hurt much? If you don't care for the largely non-enforced western notions of femininity might I suggest you take your whining to some other area of the world and see how it goes? I hear Saudi Arabia has a large and fashionable selection of table clothes they'll gladly flog you for not wearing.    

 

Like, is it the worst thing in the wold that in this one game, you don't have full access to objectify female PCs while they're "at work"? Is it really the worst thing for them to have actually listened to players who are sick of 99% of games making female armor default to scanty and impractical? It's not like the Inquisitor is wearing a cardboard box, or an actual sack. The light and medium armors are pretty form-fitting, as are the loathed Skyhold pajamas. As for the new armor, it's just ugly all around. I'm guessing anyone who spends that much time that far down are prioritizing function over form.

 

Yeah I wonder why the PJs are loathed, and it's not a Femquisitor only thing; they look like Kim Jon Um's dress clothes.

 

That aside, nice post, please explain the oh so stylish orlesian ball Formal Attire   

[Korva]

Butt-hurt much? If you don't care for the mostly suggestive western notions of femininity might I suggest you take your whining to some other area of the world and see how it goes? I hear Saudi Arabia has a large and fashionable selection of table clothes they'll gladly flog you for not wearing.   

 

Cheers for perfectly illustrating my point.

 

I think you two missed the part where the OP is female.

 

1) No, and 2) irrelevant to the point that there is no one way to look/act/be "female" (or "male"). It's perfectly possible to ask for outfits that are more revealing or "sexy" or whatever without doing that.

[Nixou]

People always say "There's a balance between looking fit for battle and looking sexy", but is there really a balance?

 

 

There isn't.

Frankly, if players want to play dress-up dolls with their characters, the best way to handle it would be to give them more choices in clothes worn outside of battle situation.

[Andraste_Reborn]

Man, I wish SJWs actually had the power over BioWare that's attributed to us.* I would have used my evil influence to get more female companions into the game and to make them give us a dwarf romance Because Of Reasons. Also a gay KISA for the gay KISA thread. And male Desire Demons wearing nothing but nipple chains and ridiculous codpieces. And a pony.

 

 

*I'm happy my female characters get to wear clothes into battle, so by the definition of the thread I guess I must be an SJW.

[Ieldra]

I believe in dressing for the occasion - and I've never seen a less appropriate outfit than the female Antaam-sar. Really, I would love to walk around in an environment or visit and event where my Inquisitor could wear it, but there isn't one in DAI.

 

As for armor, its purpose is not to make you look good, its purpose is to protect. Aesthetic preferences in fiction being what they are, I am ok with compromise, but armor should at least cover the whole body with *something*. As it is, you can design some pretty nice-looking outfits with the right schematics. My favorite is the superior battlemage armor (not the coat, not the mail) together with the battlemage armor arms and the battlemage coat legs. It's more like dress armor than anything really useful, but it looks quite good. 

[SurelyForth]

 

That aside, nice post, please explain the oh so stylish orlesian ball Formal Attire   

 

 

I don't even know. I actually like the look on female Inquisitors (and I think the unified appearance serves its purpose as far as projecting the Inquisition as a substantial presence), but I can see the appeal in letting players choose between a couple of different looks (and maybe even choosing what the advisers wear, as well). I think Gaider indicated that there were plans for ballgowns, but they were low priority and got scrapped in the scramble to release.

[Dieb]

I was already wondering if there was seriously no one  out there craving, say, boob-plated armour.

 

I am so sorry.

[Flog the Undying]

The armors which are 'sexy' and 'revealing' for women should be 'sexy' and 'revealing' on the men as well. 

[Sleekshinobi]

I think a lot of people misunderstand when someone says they want more feminine looking armor. I don't necessarily think people want armor to look slutty so to speak but to look as if a female is actually wearing it as opposed to simply looking like a smaller version of a male. There is a difference between sexy and slutty.

 

The elven armor in the game is a perfect example of this. They look distinctively different on males and females. I wish more armor in the game was like this. The concept art even hints that this seemed to be the original goal. Don't know why the idea was abandoned.

[The Oracle]

I like the armour for women to look like armour. Something that you would wear to protect you. Something practical, comfortable and suitable for the area you are in. I try to stay away from the flappy coat armours for my rogue, cause I just think that if you're trying to be stealthy, leather slapping against your legs and getting tangled up probably wouldn't help. That's not to say that bioware can't focus on something that looks good AND is practical, which i hope they'll aim for with their designs.

 

If they are to bring in "sexy" clothes, then it's probably best for it to be formal wear around Skyhold, and even then Bioware should stick to what's appropriate for the time and your position. The Herald of Andraste, leader of a new power, walking about with her t*ts and arse out in some see-through lace is hardly going to be something Bioware would go for, given that she'd be laughed out of the political sphere. Something like Vivienne's outfit though, would work, given that it's well designed while having a bit of sass.

 

I don't care much for gender politics, i care for lore and realism (as much as you can get in a magical world). As long as they stick with that, I'm happy.

[Sleekshinobi]

I like the armour for women to look like armour. Something that you would wear to protect you. Something practical, comfortable and suitable for the area you are in. I try to stay away from the flappy coat armours for my rogue, cause I just think that if you're trying to be stealthy, leather slapping against your legs and getting tangled up probably wouldn't help. That's not to say that bioware can't focus on something that looks good AND is practical, which i hope they'll aim for with their designs.

 

If they are to bring in "sexy" clothes, then it's probably best for it to be formal wear around Skyhold, and even then Bioware should stick to what's appropriate for the time and your position. The Herald of Andraste, leader of a new power, walking about with her t*ts and arse out in some see-through lace is hardly going to be something Bioware would go for, given that she'd be laughed out of the political sphere. Something like Vivienne's outfit though, would work, given that it's well designed while having a bit of sass.

 

I don't care much for gender politics, i care for lore and realism (as much as you can get in a magical world). As long as they stick with that, I'm happy.

I agree the flappy coat armors. My problem is most armors look the same on males and females. Playing as female mage with a noble background leaves a lot to be desired when suitable female mage attire is almost nonexistent. I think some mage armor along the lines of Vivienne's would be appropriate. I think you can have female armor be both stylish and sexy without having t*ts and arse hanging out.  

[MoonDrummer]

Patriarchy.

[Flog the Undying]

Patriarchy.

 

How odd it is that one sees far far more comments mocking the theory of patriarchy than people saying patriarchy is the issue in this circumstance to begin with. If you disagree with the academic theory of it, probably best to just not talk about it at all instead of bringing it up when no-one's talking about it, or you seem like little more than a child.