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[Korva]

I think a lot of people misunderstand when someone says they want more feminine looking armor. I don't necessarily think people want armor to look slutty so to speak but to look as if a female is actually wearing it as opposed to simply looking like a smaller version of a male. There is a difference between sexy and slutty.

 

I understand that, but my problem with that is threefold. First, again there is the notion that all "females" (or "males") look, want to look, or should look the same.

 

Second, functional and practical armor is gender-neutral. I honestly don't get the "looks like a man" complaint unless the armor in question has explicitly male-looking features comparable to the desired explicitly "feminine" features. At the very least that would mean, say, a chestplate shaped like a steroid hulk-dude's torso, nipples and all. Or a bulging codpiece. Or a full helmet with a faceplate that looks like a bearded guy. And I say "at the very least" because these features -- with the possible exception of the codpiece -- still wouldn't be nearly as impractical or flat-out dangerous as the usual "feminine" armor designs are. Which brings me to ...

 

Third, that "sexy" is a "female" thing. As I said, I wouldn't mind more revealing/gendered outfits as long as they aren't mandatory but are equal-opportunity on both genders in terms of both emphasis on sexualized features and coverage (or lack thereof).

[TastesLikeTNT]

The criteria some people have for their characters looking "female" is astounding. I wear baggy clothing found in the men's section about 90% of the time, and people have yet to refer to me as 'sir'. I don't mind "sexy", impractical armor provided that it applies to both genders (and that there is still an option for more practical armor). Also that, should the abdomen be exposed in such an armor, the belly button sits in an anatomically correct place.

[Wulfram]

I think Cassandra's cuirass does a good job of being practical and subtly feminine

And different colours and designs could make it more obviously feminine without impeding practicality, if that was appropriate to the character.

 

DA:O massive armour was quite masculine with it's gigantic pauldrons.

[dirk5027]

How can anybody with any intelligence what so ever, be offended by a video game anyway, gotta love the internet

[Cha0sEff3ct]

Funny, the personal insults and the "thought policing", complete with "SJW" sneers, seems to come much more often from people who insist on a binary male/female prensentation, and those of us who don't like that are usually told to STFU and deal with it, or GTFO.

 

A woman is a woman is a woman. There is no one way to "look female", or "more female". I'm fine with a few impractical outfits, if they are 1) a choice, and 2) apply to both genders equally. A bouncy banana hammock for every chainmail bikini.

Yes, please. Still waiting for Spoils of the Venatori with a Chain Collar and the Gladiator Underwear.

[Ashaantha]

More clothing like the Qunari belly-dancing outfit? I can't actually see my mage running into battle in the cold and snow wearing that thing, and yes I have more then enough screenshots proving that I did have my lady mage wear it through 2 main quests (Mythal Temple and Cory-Kill) she looked so out of place hahaha. More protective armour is needed in different, less bulky, styles though! that's what I think DAI lacks, not revealing stuff just more styles, the Inquisitor is a front-line soldier after all.

 

She fought Samson wearing next to nothing. Bonus Morrigan, I like to call this screenshot "Judging each others outfits"

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And lady Inquisitor is now kicking butt in a battlemage coat, which I personally think is appropriately classy, lady-like and battle practical:

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[Al Foley]

More clothing like the Qunari belly-dancing outfit? I can't actually see my mage running into battle in the cold and snow wearing that thing, and yes I have more then enough screenshots proving that I did have my lady mage wear it through 2 main quests (Mythal Temple and Cory-Kill) she looked so out of place hahaha. More protective armour is needed in different, less bulky, styles though! that's what I think DAI lacks, not revealing stuff just more styles, the Inquisitor is a front-line soldier after all.

 

She fought Samson wearing next to nothing. Bonus Morrigan, I like to call this screenshot "Judging each others outfits"

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And lady Inquisitor is now kicking butt in a battlemage coat, which I personally think is appropriately classy, lady-like and battle practical:

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Good God.  Dorian really does look fabulous in everything he wears.  

[Ashaantha]

Good God.  Dorian really does look fabulous in everything he wears.  

 

I know right! my crusade has always been to put him in the most garish outfits I can craft.. So far, his "look at me, I'm awesomely handsome" attitude wins every time.

[Al Foley]

I know right! my crusade has always been to put him in the most garish outfits I can craft.. So far, his "look at me, I'm awesomely handsome" attitude wins every time.

I have him in the purple...or at one point not sure he still is...but had him in the purple Orlesian finery with one of the better looking mage hats.  He looked awesome.  

[Sleekshinobi]

I understand that, but my problem with that is threefold. First, again there is the notion that all "females" (or "males") look, want to look, or should look the same.

 

Second, functional and practical armor is gender-neutral. I honestly don't get the "looks like a man" complaint unless the armor in question has explicitly male-looking features comparable to the desired explicitly "feminine" features. At the very least that would mean, say, a chestplate shaped like a steroid hulk-dude's torso, nipples and all. Or a bulging codpiece. Or a full helmet with a faceplate that looks like a bearded guy. And I say "at the very least" because these features -- with the possible exception of the codpiece -- still wouldn't be nearly as impractical or flat-out dangerous as the usual "feminine" armor designs are. Which brings me to ...

 

Third, that "sexy" is a "female" thing. As I said, I wouldn't mind more revealing/gendered outfits as long as they aren't mandatory but are equal-opportunity on both genders in terms of both emphasis on sexualized features and coverage (or lack thereof).

 

 

Well I agree with all of that actually. The overall idea is the give the player more role playing options. For players who want to have their character wear an outfit that would be considered more feminine, they should be able to. Whether that be a female wearing a low cut top (i.e. Morrigan) or bare chesting it (i.e. Iron Bull). 

 

While it's not exactly accurate I think the "looks like a man" complaint stems from the fact that both genders look the same in a lot of the armor, with the females generally looking like smaller character models of the males. I think the way the game handles companion armor is best way to tackle that. Things look different on different people. The elven armors are another great example of this.

[The Oracle]

The Quanri armour makes sense for Quanri if it's paired with some fantasticly elborate body Vittar (which would look cool as well, I always imagine it a bit like henna) but on anybody else, it's just so hilariously out of place. It's like someone ported a Korean MMO outfit into DA:I. Maybe if you were wearing it to blend in to an area, say if you were in Par Vollen (I imagine the Avvar armour would also be suitable in that situation with those people, much like I'm happy to cover my hair and shoulders when I'm in another country). 

 

On the plus side, your bits would certainly get a good airing.

[Nixou]

I don't mind "sexy", impractical armor provided that it applies to both genders (and that there is still an option for more practical armor)

 

 

I'd add two more caveats:

1. Any given piece of equipment looks the same regardless of the wearer's gender: things can get ridiculous when a late-game set of heavy armor

magically morphs into a cleavage-miniskit-thigh-high-stockings outfit when worn by a woman

2. Pieces of equipment that let skin visible should not provide more protection than practical armors.

 

Then again, Inquisition avoid these mistakes for the most part (you still get some enchanter armors looking way different when they're worn by Vivienne, but it's the exception)... Which is pretty much the reason why this topic exists in the first place when you think about it.

[Zered]

This thread and you people

 

[Sleekshinobi]

I think Cassandra's cuirass does a good job of being practical and subtly feminine

And different colours and designs could make it more obviously feminine without impeding practicality, if that was appropriate to the character.

 

DA:O massive armour was quite masculine with it's gigantic pauldrons.

 

My only complaint about Cassandra's armor is that she will not share that fantastic looking black metal. I looked everywhere for something close to that color. The Onyx metal which I thought would look like Cassandra's looks more like iron that onyx. 

[The_Shade]

Wrong request for the wrong franchise. To many DA fans are offended when you mention the terms 'sexy' and 'revealing' with female characters in DA. It precipitates far too much controversy among fans. So it's not going to happen whether that's the right reason or not. 

 

Personally, I see it as no big deal. The number of good JRPGs one could pick up for 'attractive' female armor or clothing is ridiculous. Quite a few are almost as good if not better than Dragon Age Inquisition anyway. 

 

 

 

 

[Jayce]

Y'know what truly be nice? if female characters actually had a decent range of wardrobe so everybody could chose how their PC looked rather than being railroaded into either the Not Krogan enough! or the Not skimpy enough! camps. 

[Al Foley]

Call me weird but I think my Inquisitor looks mighty fine in her armor.  Only problem is those stupid metal gauntets.  

 

[Forsythia77]

I was kinda disappointed that the female variant of the templar armor was a slightly narrower version of the male armor instead of the kind Lysette and other female templars wear. Mind you, I wouldn't have minded if the males got that armor, too. It's ridiculously impractical, but I like the aesthetics of it.

 

Maybe my tastes are strange, but I like the trench coats. The "mail" variants are a bit boxy and I detest how the leather pieces don't change color with the leather used (am I the only one who calls them "mud flaps"?), but the long coat and cutaway coat with sash are fine.

 

Ha!  The ones you don't like are the only ones I really like.  I detest the long sleeveless coats.  They seem so.. I dunno.. Like someone watched the Matrix and wanted to make it Medieval.  Especially when I am playing a warrior, it just doesn't seem sturdy enough for tanking or off tanking. 

 

Every time I find this schematic below I am happy because it seems both practical for movement and also gives adequate coverage in case someone decides to shoot an arrow at me.  I don't want armor to look feminine, I guess.  War isn't pretty!  What is funny is that when I dress myself I definitely go for girly things - sparkle and bows and dresses and whatnot!  I would however, like to see a more feminine Skyhold outfit for all my saucy broads.

 

[Ariella]

I think Cassandra's cuirass does a good job of being practical and subtly feminine

And different colours and designs could make it more obviously feminine without impeding practicality, if that was appropriate to the character.
 
DA:O massive armour was quite masculine with it's gigantic pauldrons.

Cassandra's mail, I think. The one with the overtunic looks amazing. I just wish we had something like that for the IQ.

[Al Foley]

Cassandra's mail, I think. The one with the overtunic looks amazing. I just wish we had something like that for the IQ.

My only problem with it it looked a little too light like it was casual armor gear.  Not something you would take out for combat.  Like some of the off duty wear you'd see on a member of the SGC.  

[berelinde]

Ha!  The ones you don't like are the only ones I really like.  I detest the long sleeveless coats.  They seem so.. I dunno.. Like someone watched the Matrix and wanted to make it Medieval.  Especially when I am playing a warrior, it just doesn't seem sturdy enough for tanking or off tanking. 

 

Every time I find this schematic below I am happy because it seems both practical for movement and also gives adequate coverage in case someone decides to shoot an arrow at me.  I don't want armor to look feminine, I guess.  War isn't pretty!  What is funny is that when I dress myself I definitely go for girly things - sparkle and bows and dresses and whatnot!  I would however, like to see a more feminine Skyhold outfit for all my saucy broads.

 

Hey, there's nothing wrong with having different tastes. That's why they have different armor styles! And that armor does look good on your character (metal choice matters).

 

I'm content with the armor that's in the game. I kinda wish they had some true plate armor for non-dwarves, but that's the way it goes. I don't mind the qunari light armor. I have some of my characters wear it in Val Royeaux or when they are too over-leveled to worry about taking damage. Mostly, though, the characters I have wear it are those who like to shock their audience. My Cullen-romancer wore it in Haven every time she talked to him. "What's wrong, commander? You seem distracted."

[Ariella]

My only problem with it it looked a little too light like it was casual armor gear.  Not something you would take out for combat.  Like some of the off duty wear you'd see on a member of the SGC.

The overtunic reminded me of Aragorn. I always liked that look. Then again I liked the similar look for the Rangers in Babylon 5.

Does the Male IQ mail armor have that horrible flair skirt thing?

Here is some nice female armor. On one of the most beautiful women in film at the moment...

https://gomogyoursel...golden-age1.jpg

[c0bra951]

It's a videogame.  It's a power fantasy.  It's fiction.  No real human beings are objectified in any way.  Practical armor?  In this genre--really?  Armor is there to make your character look the way you want, not to realistically protect against anything.  What good is sitting inside a tin can going to do you against lightning, frost and spirit attacks?  "Realism" is the wrong word here entirely, and it's a poor argument for taking away player choice that might offend the SJW crowd.

[Forsythia77]

Hey, there's nothing wrong with having different tastes. That's why they have different armor styles! And that armor does look good on your character (metal choice matters).

 

I'm content with the armor that's in the game. I kinda wish they had some true plate armor for non-dwarves, but that's the way it goes. I don't mind the qunari light armor. I have some of my characters wear it in Val Royeaux or when they are too over-leveled to worry about taking damage. Mostly, though, the characters I have wear it are those who like to shock their audience. My Cullen-romancer wore it in Haven every time she talked to him. "What's wrong, commander? You seem distracted."

 

I seem to craft everything in purple, except for Dorian.  He gets yellow and crisp white most of the time.  He looks good in orange too.  Hell he looks good in anything.  That man is perfect.

[dragondreamer]

Inquisiting is a glamorous job, but someone's gotta do it.

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I actually prefer the revealing Qunari outfit on my male Lavellan.

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Not in the Deep Roads though, it looked too out of place down there.  Did kill Cory in this outfit tho.  Was very badass.

 

That said, I don't care if there's more "girly" outfits, as long as they share with the boys, and as long as it's not the only sort of thing my ladies can wear.  Outside of the DLC armors, the battlemage armor set is my favorite for all my mages; always been partial to the trenchcoat look.  And pants.  Mages generally don't require heavy practical armor anyway, unless they're like my AW Surana, who just has a thing for massive armor.  As for the rest, how other people dress their characters isn't my concern as long as I have options.