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[Pressedcat]

tell me why can't Bioware not make armor like this?.

 

 

 

Because that's not armour; that's a kimono/negligee...

 

Also, props for the double negative. Does that mean you're actually against that kind of 'armour'.

[abisha]

Because that's not armour; that's a kimono/negligee...

 

according to D&D cloths is armor.... i don't make up the rules.

[Pressedcat]

according to D&D cloths is armor.... i don't make up the rules.

 

A linen gambeson (cloth armour)

 

 

Also 'cloth' (not armour)

 

 

You might not make the rules, but you can certainly try and apply them sensibly.

[Ashagar]

Yes, armor generally should protect the body, I remember having to  to shake my head at the dalish armor in DAO given it leaves open the the places where your most likely going to get A. get struck in melee or b. get hit with a projectile of some sort.

 

Good armor provides the most amount of protection with the least amount of restriction, not leave your most vulnerable spots unprotected.

[Giantdeathrobot]

Because that's not armour; that's a kimono/negligee...

 

Also, props for the double negative. Does that mean you're actually against that kind of 'armour'.

 

Not to mention, regardless of combat applications, it makes no sense for Triss to wear it in her part of the story. She's supposed to be incognito in Novigrad, a wanted woman on the run from the entire city watch, and she prances around in a fancy outfit that will make any and every red-blooded man that sees her never forget the sight? That doesn't sound very smart at all.

[Nixou]

Not to mention, regardless of combat applications, it makes no sense for Triss to wear it in her part of the story. She's supposed to be incognito in Novigrad, a wanted woman on the run from the entire city watch, and she prances around in a fancy outfit that will make any and every red-blooded man that sees her never forget the sight?

 

 

It would make sense before Triss went on the run: in the patriarchal society depicted in the world of of the Witcher, for a Witch like Triss to wear such revealing clothes is a way to say: "I can afford to be even less dressed than the local prostitutes because the first man who tries to forces himself on me will end up as a puddle of liquefied meat at the bottom of a smoldering crater": a way to display one's confidence in her overwhelming power.

Which, when you think about it, is also part of the rational behind the rather revealing cleavage of Vivienne's casual clothes.

[abisha]

Not to mention, regardless of combat applications, it makes no sense for Triss to wear it in her part of the story. She's supposed to be incognito in Novigrad, a wanted woman on the run from the entire city watch, and she prances around in a fancy outfit that will make any and every red-blooded man that sees her never forget the sight? That doesn't sound very smart at all.

 

hee, she do wear a cape any suspicious fellow use it to hide just look assassin's creed...... young-lings have a lot to learn.

[abisha]

Yes, armor generally should protect the body, I remember having to  to shake my head at the dalish armor in DAO given it leaves open the the places where your most likely going to get A. get struck in melee or b. get hit with a projectile of some sort.

 

Good armor provides the most amount of protection with the least amount of restriction, not leave your most vulnerable spots unprotected.

 

that's why only mages used cloth. they suppose to die by a melee stike.

[Ashagar]

Thing is good cloth armor such as Gambesons proves some protection unlike mage robes. Gambesons designed as armor to be worn alone have been known to provide some protection even against even heavy arrows. They were extremely common being the go to armor of the common solder who could not afford plate or chain armor into the renaissance before going into decline along with plate armor until it stopped being used completely by the 18th century about the time plate armor also largely went out of use with exceptions.

[Darkly Tranquil]

Putting aside all the "gender stuff" that has cropped up in this thread, I'd rather just comment on how few armour models there actually are, and how ugly most do them are. I'd say there was a better range of better looking armours in Origins, which is pretty disappointing. I also noticed that there seem to be some nice looking armours that don't seem to be available to the player to use, which is also disappointing. It almost seems like they designed the NPCs armours, the Inquisitor's armour from the trailer, and then realised at the last minute that they need some generic PC armours and threw them together in a hurry, and the result is underwhelming to say the least. It's pretty sad when the main character has pretty much the worst outfits across the board in the whole game. I also think the "formal attire" deserves special note for being horrid, and is probably one instance where I think gender specific attire would have been absolutely appropriate. Who wouldn't want to wear a beautiful gown to the ball?

[Giantdeathrobot]

 

It would make sense before Triss went on the run: in the patriarchal society depicted in the world of of the Witcher, for a Witch like Triss to wear such revealing clothes is a way to say: "I can afford to be even less dressed than the local prostitutes because the first man who tries to forces himself on me will end up as a puddle of liquefied meat at the bottom of a smoldering crater": a way to display one's confidence in her overwhelming power.

Which, when you think about it, is also part of the rational behind the rather revealing cleavage of Vivienne's casual clothes.

 

 

Oh, sure. If she was still Foltest's magical advisor, I'd have no issue with the dress. Triss is not above being provocative and showing off, and it really is a good looking, if somewhat riské dress. But as combat attire, it looks a bit silly, and as something worn by a woman on the run it is simply stupid. So not really a great example.

 

Still, I do think NPCs and companions often had the best armor in Inquisition. I wanted to steal Blackwall's outfits so badly. Quilted cloth and plate with Warden heraldry? Gimme. Vivienne, Dorian, Varric and Cassandra also had great armor design. Poor Inquisitor was mostly stuck with various armored longcoats, a look I liked but almost every viable armor set that wasn't race-gated looked like that.

 

I also absolutely wanted the pitch black plate you see on an NPC very early in the game, before even getting to Haven. The guy is just standing there, wearing this awesome looking armor, taunting me.

[The Baconer]

Putting aside all the "gender stuff" that has cropped up in this thread, I'd rather just comment on how few armour models there actually are, and how ugly most do them are. I'd say there was a better range of better looking armours in Origins, which is pretty disappointing. 

 

DA:O had some of the worst robe designs I've witnessed in any video game, and I don't miss being turning into a fridge with legs by putting on the massive armor. 

 

I do agree that Inquisition had a slew of cool-looking armors that were completely unutilized for the PC, which is unfortunate. 

 

[CoM Solaufein]

I think the armor looks quite fine on females. Its that horrendous attire you wear at Skyhold that needs some work. Couple of outfits look fine but the rest look bad.

[Catilina]

Morrigan's armor still creepy.

[Orian Tabris]

Because that's not armour; that's a kimono/negligee...

 

Also, props for the double negative. Does that mean you're actually against that kind of 'armour'.

 

That is neither a kimono or a negligee. The under-portion (for lack of a better word) of a negligee leaves the shoulders entirely bare, save for a thin strap over each, and it never sits on the ground when worn properly, standing up. As for kimono, you could argue it looks like a kimono jacket, but again, it doesn't sit on the ground. Kimono are always worn with a thick decorative belt, and are the same length all the way around the legs, and cover the arms both with the same material. Also, you wouldn't wear (cloth?) greaves with either.

 

If anything, it's some sort of fancy western medieval dress. I would think the kind that a courtesan might wear (I am reminded of Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood for some reason).

 

You're right though, about not being armour. It's hardly armour if it doesn't prevent or reduce pain, and it definitely wouldn't do either. D&D made the fantasy rules, but those rules aren't above historical facts.

[Catilina]

Ugly female's armors? Anyone seeing the f... Orlaisian masks for male? Why, by Andraste's tears, why?

[9TailsFox]

Solas is god so at least he should get sexy armour same as Flemeth. Armour ha I am immortal.

[Serza]

tell me why can't Bioware not make armor like this?.

 

just look the colors on the back so natural green the skirt so nice made with golden stitch

not even to speak about the physics they put in on the necklace and hair brooch

this is work of a ->true artist<- you can see they put more in it then just make money.

 

we get pyama the most boring ugly armor ever made in the history of gaming.

 

 

also wanna add if people really wanna see 10 ton armor how comes that most armor on the nexus is not like that?.

just a thought.

 

How is that armor. That's nowhere near able to stop a FIST, much less an arrow or a blade.

 

A linen gambeson (cloth armour)

 

 

Also 'cloth' (not armour)

 

 

You might not make the rules, but you can certainly try and apply them sensibly.

 

Gambesons are reportedly relatively decent at stopping slashes, too...

[9TailsFox]

How is that armor. That's nowhere near able to stop a FIST, much less an arrow or a blade.

 

 

Gambesons are reportedly relatively decent at stopping slashes, too...

Stop fist? Vivienne can solo a dragon looking like this. Don't mess with battle mage.

[Ashagar]

Gambesons are reportedly relatively decent at stopping slashes, too...

 

Yes and arrows to a point at least when it comes to Gambesons designed as stand alone armor. However both Gambesons designed as stand lone armor or to be worn under armor do have a issue in they are hot to wear as the layers of leather and cloth material tends to keep in heat instead of allowing it to escape.

[abisha]

Stop fist? Vivienne can solo a dragon looking like this. Don't mess with battle mage.

 

she can kill with her Ego not even need magic.

[9TailsFox]

she can kill with her Ego not even need magic.

[Abyss108]

tell me why can't Bioware not make armor like this?.

 

just look the colors on the back so natural green the skirt so nice made with golden stitch

not even to speak about the physics they put in on the necklace and hair brooch

this is work of a ->true artist<- you can see they put more in it then just make money.

 

we get pyama the most boring ugly armor ever made in the history of gaming.

 

 

also wanna add if people really wanna see 10 ton armor how comes that most armor on the nexus is not like that?.

just a thought.

 

Because most people actually don't want their characters walking around in underwear/prostitute/fetish gear. Especially if it's only going to be applied selectively to the female characters.

 

Very few people actually use mod sites like the Nexus compared to the people who play the game, and the people who want actual armour don't need to visit because said armour is already in the game.

[Andrew Lucas]

Because most people actually don't want their characters walking around in underwear/prostitute/fetish gear. Especially if it's only going to be applied selectively to the female characters.
 
Very few people actually use mod sites like the Nexus compared to the people who play the game, and the people who want actual armour don't need to visit because said armour is already in the game.

"Most people..."

Ha.

[Serza]

Stop fist? Vivienne can solo a dragon looking like this. Don't mess with battle mage.

 

More than one reason I hate her.

 

Yes and arrows to a point at least when it comes to Gambesons designed as stand alone armor. However both Gambesons designed as stand lone armor or to be worn under armor do have a issue in they are hot to wear as the layers of leather and cloth material tends to keep in heat instead of allowing it to escape.

 

I'd rather be hot than dead, but yes, that does limit how long you can wear one and not die of overheating.

 

"Most people..."

Ha.

 

Do you disagree?