Why do my game choices matter to anyone else, if I want to dress my characters in wildly impractical armour I should be able to do so without the hysterical condemnation of others. I don't tell you how to play so please extend the same courtesy. And real life armour was highly stylised I may add, usually with male characteristics, for example Roman armour.
And frankly the DAI armour's for both sexes were hideous.
Why do my game choices matter to anyone else, if I want to dress my characters in wildly impractical armour I should be able to do so without the hysterical condemnation of others. I don't tell you how to play so please extend the same courtesy. And real life armour was highly stylised I may add, usually with male characteristics, for example Roman armour.
And frankly the DAI armour's for both sexes were hideous.
And you are perfectly free to do that with all the various mod sites out there. I certainly don't care if you want to mod all your characters into fetish outfits. It has no effect on me. It does however have an effect on me when people start demanding Bioware should cater to that in the base game.
The game is meant to be realistically styled (don't bother replying to this about how it includes magic - you know what I mean by this). Hence, people wear clothes in that style.
Now if Bioware suddenly decides they actually don't want to make serious fantasy games, they want to make sex games set in a fantasy universe, I'm sure they will go ahead and put those types of outfits in the game. And in that type of game, there is no issue with those types of outfits - there is a time and place for everything.
At the moment you are perfectly free to either -
A ) Buy an actual game designed for sex. Or -
B ) Mod the outfits you want into the game.
Both seem perfectly valid options to me. What doesn't seem like a valid option to me is -
C ) A company who wants to make a realistically styled fantasy game should also provide outfits appropriate for a sex game. For the same reason you shouldn't expect them to include anime hair styles for your character.
DA:O had some of the worst robe designs I've witnessed in any video game, and I don't miss being turning into a fridge with legs by putting on the massive armor.
I do agree that Inquisition had a slew of cool-looking armors that were completely unutilized for the PC, which is unfortunate.
Don't forget the condom hats 
Don't forget the condom hats
The male orlesian masks beats all another helms! What did the Herald of Andraste deserve it by?
Just look, poor Solas and inquisitor:
And you are perfectly free to do that with all the various mod sites out there. I certainly don't care if you want to mod all your characters into fetish outfits. It has no effect on me. It does however have an effect on me when people start demanding Bioware should cater to that in the base game.
The game is meant to be realistically styled (don't bother replying to this about how it includes magic - you know what I mean by this). Hence, people wear clothes in that style.
Now if Bioware suddenly decides they actually don't want to make serious fantasy games, they want to make sex games set in a fantasy universe, I'm sure they will go ahead and put those types of outfits in the game. And in that type of game, there is no issue with those types of outfits - there is a time and place for everything.
At the moment you are perfectly free to either -
A ) Buy an actual game designed for sex. Or -
B ) Mod the outfits you want into the game.
Both seem perfectly valid options to me. What doesn't seem like a valid option to me is -
C ) A company who wants to make a realistically styled fantasy game should also provide outfits appropriate for a sex game. For the same reason you shouldn't expect them to include anime hair styles for your character.
I actually play on the xbone so no modding, and as for the in game armours none of them would remotely be considered protective unless you included magic, gaping arm holes and entire areas of the body vulnerable to attack how is this more practical?. If you truly what realism then they should be wearing representations of real life armours, Samurai, Roman, European Armour and chain mail.
The numbers of people who downloads such mods do.More than one reason I hate her.
I'd rather be hot than dead, but yes, that does limit how long you can wear one and not die of overheating.
Do you disagree?
Because most people actually don't want their characters walking around in underwear/prostitute/fetish gear. Especially if it's only going to be applied selectively to the female characters.
Very few people actually use mod sites like the Nexus compared to the people who play the game, and the people who want actual armour don't need to visit because said armour is already in the game.
been drop as baby? don't assume people what people like or want because it's not what DA:I gives.
http://www.nexusmods...rim/mods/3654/?
1,4 million Unique downloads.
http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/52168/?
0.1 million Unique downloads.
http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/47376/?
0.2 million Unique downloads.
don't have to press links to know what kind of "armor" those are.
Putting aside all the "gender stuff" that has cropped up in this thread, I'd rather just comment on how few armour models there actually are, and how ugly most do them are. I'd say there was a better range of better looking armours in Origins, which is pretty disappointing. I also noticed that there seem to be some nice looking armours that don't seem to be available to the player to use, which is also disappointing. It almost seems like they designed the NPCs armours, the Inquisitor's armour from the trailer, and then realised at the last minute that they need some generic PC armours and threw them together in a hurry, and the result is underwhelming to say the least. It's pretty sad when the main character has pretty much the worst outfits across the board in the whole game. I also think the "formal attire" deserves special note for being horrid, and is probably one instance where I think gender specific attire would have been absolutely appropriate. Who wouldn't want to wear a beautiful gown to the ball?
This.
Arguing about how revealing the armor is, or how there are no chainmail bikinis seems moot when 3/4 of the armor are the same leather coat style for each armor class. Add to that the fact that the leather trench coat armors are the only ones to use from a min/max perspective because their upgrade slots put them so far ahead of the generic templar armors and the like.
Inquisition has a serious lack of variety and also makes the mistake, like the previous games, of having your stats tied to your appearance. At least in Origins and DA2 you could mod so you could look nice and have comparable stats to an ugly set.
Personally, I like characters to look practical and well-guarded and when I play female characters they tend to be warriors. However, Inquisition gear for women looks overly mannish, along with just about everything else in regards to female characters. The Divine is the only good female armor in the game imo, since it was actually designed for a female instead of being a thinner version of what the guys wear. Unfortunately, again, its stats are horrendous compared to a crafted battlemaster set.
The male orlesian masks beats all another helms! What did the Herald of Andraste deserve it by?
Oh god the hats. Orlesians are insane.
But at least I can handwave that as Orlesians being Orlesian. DAO's mage hats tho....smh.
Why do my game choices matter to anyone else, if I want to dress my characters in wildly impractical armour I should be able to do so without the hysterical condemnation of others. I don't tell you how to play so please extend the same courtesy. And real life armour was highly stylised I may add, usually with male characteristics, for example Roman armour.
And frankly the DAI armour's for both sexes were hideous.
Bring the hate. But still Bioware should have made more armour and better cc and hair Instead of wasting time on adding more races witch made modelling armour even harder. They can't even make helmets for qunari only one for bull and no hair at all qunari just half baked.
I actually play on the xbone so no modding, and as for the in game armours none of them would remotely be considered protective unless you included magic, gaping arm holes and entire areas of the body vulnerable to attack how is this more practical?. If you truly what realism then they should be wearing representations of real life armours, Samurai, Roman, European Armour and chain mail.
It's obviously not 100% realistic, it's realistic enough to not look completely ridiculous and like something from a fetish movie. Most of the outfits do not include massive gaping holes in important areas. They are realistic enough to allow people to take the game seriously.
been drop as baby? don't assume people what people like or want because it's not what DA:I gives.
http://www.nexusmods...rim/mods/3654/?
1,4 million Unique downloads.
http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/52168/?
0.1 million Unique downloads.
http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/47376/?
0.2 million Unique downloads.
don't have to press links to know what kind of "armor" those are.
Personal insults, lovely. 
Last I checked, Skyrim sold over 20 million copies, and that was 2 years ago. I guarantee you those 1.4 mil were not all unique different people, and if we are generous and assume they are, and also assume Skyrim sold exactly 20 million and no more, and then didn't sell any more copies in the last few years, than apparently 14% of people want fetish gear. Not exactly a majority. And thats being incredibly generous with your figures, and only taking your number one mod. Your other mods have about a tenth of that figure, so about 1-2%.
If you are going to use the console players argument, don't bother. Those people chose to buy on console rather than PC, and could have picked up a PC that would run the game for the same price by now if this mattered to them.
It's obviously not 100% realistic, it's realistic enough to not look completely ridiculous and like something from a fetish movie. Most of the outfits do not include massive gaping holes in important areas. They are realistic enough to allow people to take the game seriously.
Personal insults, lovely.
Last I checked, Skyrim sold over 20 million copies, and that was 2 years ago. I guarantee you those 1.4 mil were not all unique different people, and if we are generous and assume they are, and also assume Skyrim sold exactly 20 million and no more, and then didn't sell any more copies in the last few years, than apparently 14% of people want fetish gear. Not exactly a majority. And thats being incredibly generous with your figures, and only taking your number one mod. Your other mods have about a tenth of that figure, so about 1-2%.
If you are going to use the console players argument, don't bother. Those people chose to buy on console rather than PC, and could have picked up a PC that would run the game for the same price by now if this mattered to them.
So according to you we should remove race selection because majority play human or homosexual romance. We don't say make all armour like this we ask add few armour likes this in main game. It's bad example because quanri armour don't fit on model. Maker who made it so bad. But still something this style.
It's obviously not 100% realistic, it's realistic enough to not look completely ridiculous and like something from a fetish movie. Most of the outfits do not include massive gaping holes in important areas. They are realistic enough to allow people to take the game seriously.
Personal insults, lovely.
Last I checked, Skyrim sold over 20 million copies, and that was 2 years ago. I guarantee you those 1.4 mil were not all unique different people, and if we are generous and assume they are, and also assume Skyrim sold exactly 20 million and no more, and then didn't sell any more copies in the last few years, than apparently 14% of people want fetish gear. Not exactly a majority. And thats being incredibly generous with your figures, and only taking your number one mod. Your other mods have about a tenth of that figure, so about 1-2%.
If you are going to use the console players argument, don't bother. Those people chose to buy on console rather than PC, and could have picked up a PC that would run the game for the same price by now if this mattered to them.
->Unique downloads<- other it just state downloads which is 2.5 million.
around 23 million copy's are sold 14% are PC sells so around 3,3 million copy's.
so that's around 1/3 of the PC players that play skyrim are using a skimpy armor mod, who are you again to judge what gamers like?.
o yea Link for stats.
http://www.statistic...s-v-statistics/
So according to you we should remove race selection because majority play human or homosexual romance. We don't say make all armour like this we ask add few armour likes this in main game. It's bad example because quanri armour don't fit on model. Maker who made it so bad. But still something this style.
No, I was simply arguing against the people who claim that the majority of players want the game to be full of fetish gear. It shouldn't be in the game, because it doesn't fit the style of the game. What you posted isn't the same thing as what those people were posting pictures of either - that's a single piece of armour that is maybe unrealistic, but designed for a specific culture/environment from the game world and is also applied to all characters equally. It's nothing like the Nexus links people are posting, and it's not "let's dress all the women up like prostitutes".
->Unique downloads<- other it just state downloads which is 2.5 million.
around 23 million copy's are sold 14% are PC sells so around 3,3 million copy's.
so that's around 1/3 of the PC players that play skyrim are using a skimpy armor mod, who are you again to judge what gamers like?.
o yea Link for stats.
Thank you for confirming it is not a majority, even with you assuming those downloads are unique.
No, I was simply arguing against the people who claim that the majority of players want the game to be full of fetish gear. It shouldn't be in the game, because it doesn't fit the style of the game. What you posted isn't the same thing as what those people were posting pictures of either - that's a single piece of armour that is maybe unrealistic, but designed for a specific culture/environment from the game world and is also applied to all characters equally. It's nothing like the Nexus links people are posting, and it's not "let's dress all the women up like prostitutes".
Fine you right we can change word majority to many if it makes you happy. But change realism to I don't like it. If you want realism we would never have dragon battles, and no helmet toggle not realistic. DA never had realistic armour. And you talking about protection? You can have your 12 layers of metal, Solas still win naked in 1 second.
->Unique downloads<- other it just state downloads which is 2.5 million.
around 23 million copy's are sold 14% are PC sells so around 3,3 million copy's.
so that's around 1/3 of the PC players that play skyrim are using a skimpy armor mod, who are you again to judge what gamers like?.
o yea Link for stats.
According to SteamSpy, Skyrim has about 10 million owners on Steam.
I like Inquisition's armor options the best out of the 3 games, but then I felt that DA was always a bit weak when it came to armor design, especially in DA:O.
Fine you right we can change word majority to many if it makes you happy. But change realism to I don't like it. If you want realism we would never have dragon battles, and no helmet toggle not realistic. DA never had realistic armour. And you talking about protection? You can have your 12 layers of metal, Solas still win naked in 1 second.
Very well I will take back -
"The game is meant to be realistically styled (don't bother replying to this about how it includes magic - you know what I mean by this). Hence, people wear clothes in that style. "
Because apparently people do not know what I mean by this.
I mean consistent and believable style that does not look ridiculous within the game world. You could argue spaceships should fit into the game world because dragons are not realistic either, but I doubt many people would agree with you and start demanding Bioware to cater to their desire to see spaceships in the game. Bioware has invented a consistent world. It is not a world where women, and only women, walk out the front door wearing fetish gear to fight dragons (unless it is a specific character who has this written as part of her personality for some reason).
Very well I will take back -
"The game is meant to be realistically styled (don't bother replying to this about how it includes magic - you know what I mean by this). Hence, people wear clothes in that style. "
Because apparently people do not know what I mean by this.
I mean consistent and believable style that does not look ridiculous within the game world. You could argue spaceships should fit into the game world because dragons are not realistic either, but I doubt many people would agree with you and start demanding Bioware to cater to their desire to see spaceships in the game. Bioware has invented a consistent world. It is not a world where women, and only women, walk out the front door wearing fetish gear to fight dragons (unless it is a specific character who has this written as part of her personality for some reason).
I know what you mean and you should know why you wrong. This last great point. Why Iron bull can have his fetish and fight dragon half naked who is warrior an no magic an our character can't have similar armour. Same Isabella or Varric.
I know what you mean and you should know why you wrong. This last great point. Why Iron bull can have his fetish and fight dragon half naked who is warrior an no magic an our character can't have similar armour. Same Isabella or Varric.
The thing that always bugged me about Bull is that the best masterwork stuff is basically the harness. At least Varric can get a full chest plate on the decent stuff.
I know what you mean and you should know why you wrong. This last great point. Why Iron bull can have his fetish and fight dragon half naked who is warrior an no magic an our character can't have similar armour. Same Isabella or Varric.
What Iron Bull wears isn't fetish gear though. It's not designed to be sexy. It would be fetish gear if it had his parts hanging out. As it is, it's just kinda dumb.
The thing that always bugged me about Bull is that the best masterwork stuff is basically the harness. At least Varric can get a full chest plate on the decent stuff.
How dare you, blasphemy. You can't cover Varric paragon of manliness.
(unless it is a specific character who has this written as part of her personality for some reason).
And why can't the player have their character whom they want to have this character trait express it?
What Iron Bull wears isn't fetish gear though. It's not designed to be sexy. It would be fetish gear if it had his parts hanging out. As it is, it's just kinda dumb.
You miss my point.
And why can't the player have their character whom they want to have this character trait express it?
This is my point.
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