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[Secret Rare]

It was justice for my Warden

 

 

I do not know on how to consider this,if she was dismissed by the Warden but she return without consent

(to use the Warden in this case,only to use the Warden not to help him/her because if the ritual is refused she leave again)then i can understand the revenge option/intent of the Warden ,especially for the alienage events.

As for a Dalish Warden,sure why not? For my Dalish it was justice not revange,she stole from a dalish clan and she deceived the keeper,in my case it works pretty well,the book doesn't belong to her,it doesn't matter if in the end she returned the book,Arianne risked her life to reach the Dragon bones lands,if it was not for the Warden the book would have been stolen forever.

 

yes this,it was justice for my warden and it is justice for a Dalish Warden as well.

[Aren]

It was justice for my Warden

 

yes this,it was justice for my warden and it is justice for a Dalish Warden as well.

Nooo it doesn't work for a city elf, is revenge not justice,only a Dalish warden is justified to talk about justice,for the book that she had stolen,you're hard like a stone  .

[Aren]

It's not treason, but it's not going to win her a lot of friends either. She's leaving your group during the battle with one less mage, something that could have made a difference in the battle.

Not really i won at Denerim without any companion(only Loghain), 1000 traps and stealth and ballista were enough.

the AD as boss was more weak than some demons of the game.

[Aren]

No. She's not a citizen of Ferelden. She's not a member of Ferelden's military or Chantry. And she's not even a Grey Warden. 

 

She is an independent "witch of the wilds" who lived apart from society along (if not below) the edge of Ferelden's southern border.

 

She is an independent entity who (informally) agreed to travel with you and Alistair long enough to help you stop the Blight, and she did that. She has no further obligation to stick around or do--what, exactly?

well when the DR was rejected she was exiled by my Warden king but then returned in Ferelden without the permission of the crown, in the region of Amaranthine (the warden lands)that was the crime of high treason against the crown,it works very well.

she is bound to obey to the Fereldan law(which is my warden) citizen or not

[Secret Rare]

 

Nooo it doesn't work for a city elf

i have already said this,to me her ritual (try to save an AD) was an insult to the nation,after all the people killed by this stupid god,this pathetic woman come and try to save this monster from his demise

(oh oh...oh yes because she love me and she want to save me,,,, come on! How stupid someone has to be to drink this bullshit?

She is ready to leave if this royal stupidity is refused)

yep justice,my Warden performed justice for all the brave Ferelden people who died during the 5th blight ,stabbed her with no regret..

[German Soldier]

 

i have already said this,to me her ritual (try to save an AD) was an insult to the nation,after all the people killed by this stupid god,this pathetic woman come and try to save this monster from his demise

(oh oh...oh yes because she love me and she want to save me,,,, come on! How stupid someone has to be to drink this bullshit?

She is ready to leave if this royal stupidity is refused)

yep justice,my Warden performed justice for all the brave Ferelden people who died during the 5th blight ,stabbed her with no regret..

 

 

 I share this thought,save the Dragon was not an option,brave Ferelden soldiers who died need at least to be rewarded,and let this god to fall forever   in their memories.

if they are dead at Ostagar because of him,he will die as well,so i didn't approved Morrigan's attempt,save the AD because was a special snowflake,who cares?! Is ridicolous for my perspective.!

She is a person who has no value for me,she didn't know the meaning of cooperation and sacrifice,like the others companions,who are there even if not rewarded with an OGB.

camaraderie is everything to me,this is way i have no sympathy for her character,she is the misanthrope,intriguing witch of old legends,but i'm guy who prefer team works

(shooter fan) and loyalty to the mission,not stupid secret agendas or ancient gods and myth of muffin,

Also i don't like Flemeth either,i don't like misanthrope in general friends are everything in this life,abandon them in their time of need is a very low thing to do.

[Secret Rare]

 

so i didn't approved Morrigan's attempt,save the AD because was a special snowflake,who cares?! Is ridicolous for my perspective.!

Also i don't like Flemeth either,i don't like misanthrope in general, friends are everything in this life,abandon them in their time of need is a very low thing to do.

 

 

For a lizard.........

[German Soldier]

 

For a lizard.........

When i finished the game i was very surprised that she abandoned everyone after an year for a lizard,it was revenge against the Warden?

i asked her help and she responded coldly

"you should've thought sooner"

so no i don't by her bullshit that she care,when it comes to her pesonal gain she doesn't care anymore.

As i said i felt no more sympathy for the character.

[Tidus]

Morrigan is a valuable character as far as a black mage and she excels at that . 

 

A tidbit from DA:2.

 

 

Later in DA:2 its possible she may not be Flemeth's daughter..You need to ask Flemeth who Morrigan is during the mountain alter scene and listen close to what the witch says.

[Aren]

Morrigan is a valuable character as far as a black mage and she excels at that . 

 

A tidbit from DA:2.

 

 

Later in DA:2 its possible she may not be Flemeth's daughter..You need to ask Flemeth who Morrigan is during the mountain alter scene and listen close to what the witch says.

Impossible she is.i wonder who is her father instead?

Maric ?

[Secret Rare]

Oh, so it's for the suggestion of other option she's the number one enemy, ok...    I'm glad I wasn't in your group, because I often throw suggestions left and right if I can think of some.
 

DO you read? o are you simply incapable to elaborate?

I said the old god/AD was the enemy of the nation,

her purpose was to help the old god, the enemy,for some unknown selfish reasons,i don't regret my WH ending it was perfect.

[Aren]

DO you read? o are you simply incapable to elaborate?

I said the old god/AD was the enemy of the nation

Archdemon is   number One duje!

 

[Vlada47]

DO you read? o are you simply incapable to elaborate?

I said the old god/AD was the enemy of the nation,

her purpose was to help the old god, the enemy,for some unknown selfish reasons,i don't regret my WH ending it was perfect.

 

Aww... look, you could hurt AD's feelings with those words! 

 

 

And you say, you don't get defensive, tsk, tsk... 

[Tidus]

Aren,I don't know who Morrigan's pappy is but, I wasn't expecting the answer Flemeth gave when asked who Morrigan was..

[Darkly Tranquil]

This entire thing is based on a false premise. Morrigan was never on your side to begin with, she has only ever been on her own side. You can't betray something to which you never owed allegiance to in the first place.

Plus, I'm finding the idea of Morrigan caring about notions like royal authority, patriotism/duty, and chains of command pretty funny. Morrigan is a law unto herself with no regard for nations, rules, religions, traditions or any other constructs of man; she recognises only the laws of the natural world - survival and power.

[Aren]

Aww... look, you could hurt AD's feelings with those words! 

 

 

And you say, you don't get defensive, tsk, tsk... 

Well is legitimate for my Warden to not wish to have a son like that?!

Without metagaming you cannot honestly know that.....that this thing will become Kieran,is Absurd!

 

This entire thing is based on a false premise. Morrigan was never on your side to begin with, she has only ever been on her own side. You can't betray something to which you never owed allegiance to in the first place.

Plus, I'm finding the idea of Morrigan caring about notions like royal authority, patriotism/duty, and chains of command pretty funny. Morrigan is a law unto herself with no regard for nations, rules, religions, traditions or any other constructs of man; she recognises only the laws of the natural world - survival and power.

Yes i had already realized that,but still like everyone else she is bound to the law of the territory,nation,which highest authority in WH is the warden in my case

(don't need the ritual for the crown).

she take some risks if she return in Ferelden,after that she suggested to the king to save the dragon on the top.

 

[Vlada47]

 

Well is legitimate for my Warden to not wish to have a son like that?!

Without metagaming you cannot honestly know that.....that this thing will become Kieran,is Absurd!

 

 

I don't know, I think Morrigan would at least mention that a dragon came out of her womb in the Witch Hunt. I have to admit... at first I would do it for reasons I already mentioned somewhere (why did you create multiple topics for this, I'm losing track   ), but now... I would do it just to rile all those militaristic supreme generals/commanders/kings of Ferelden, who are now either dead or let Alistair/Loghain take the bullet for them. 

[Illegitimus]

 

 

 

Yes i had already realized that,but still like everyone else she is bound to the law of the territory,nation,which highest authority in WH is the warden in my case

 

The problem with that being is that it is still the case that the only law of the land she has broken is the...you know...whole apostate thing.   I mean as long as you aren't going with a new law that says "Being someone the warden doesn't like is a crime punishable by death".   Oh, and what I expected to happen is that Morrigan would give birth to a super powerful human mage who might know some ancient historical lore.  I mean she was only saving the old gods soul and reincarnating it.  She wasn't saving his body or his taint.  

[Aren]

I mean she was only saving the old gods soul and reincarnating it.  She wasn't saving his body or his taint.  

Even if she failed, the responsibility of such an action(try to save the enemy of the GW and the entire continent) will fall on her shoulders,especially considering that she returned into the warden land(Amaranthine) after that she get rejected.

[Secret Rare]

The problem with that being is that it is still the case that the only law of the land she has broken is the...you know...whole apostate thing.   I mean as long as you aren't going with a new law that says "Being someone the warden doesn't like is a crime punishable by death".   Oh, and what I expected to happen is that Morrigan would give birth to a super powerful human mage who might know some ancient historical lore.  I mean she was only saving the old gods soul and reincarnating it.  She wasn't saving his body or his taint.  

I have already said this i will repeat the same again,The old gods are enemy for the GW,they fought against them as well,not only against the AD which are their tainted version.

she can be accused for illegal possession of GW secrets

She can be accused to have tried to save an  old god and revert their fate

all crimes from whom a GW tribunal would  kill her on the spot, like my GW who  among all the other things was absolving the GW duty in WH,eliminate a potential ally of the old gods..

[Illegitimus]

 

I have already said this i will repeat the same again,The old gods are enemy for the GW,they fought against them as well,not only against the AD which are their tainted version.

she can be accused for illegal possession of GW secrets

She can be accused to have tried to save an  old god and revert their fate

all crimes from whom a GW tribunal would  kill her on the spot, like my GW who  among all the other things was absolving the GW duty in WH,eliminate a potential ally of the old gods..

 

 

Apparently the Grey Wardens run some serious kangaroo courts.  

 

1.  No, Gray Wardens have never fought against an untainted old god.

2.  Knowing things isn't a crime.  

3.  Making a suggestion you don't like isn't a crime.  

 

Now, you can kill her because you think she's a possible threat or you just don't like her.  But understand that the reason you can do that isn't because you're enforcing a law because you aren't.  It's because Gray Wardens can do whatever they darn well want if they think it will somehow be useful against the blight.  They can induct mass murderers, rob people, shelter apostates, use blood magic, create abominations, turn every griffon alive into an undead monster, and it's only a problem if what they've done has actually hampered the effort against the current blight.  I emphasize "current" because Gray Wardens have made shortsightedness into an ideological tenet.  

[Secret Rare]

Apparently the Grey Wardens run some serious kangaroo courts.  

 

1.  No, Gray Wardens have never fought against an untainted old god.

2.  Knowing things isn't a crime.  

3.  Making a suggestion you don't like isn't a crime.  

 

 

1) i said that the GW main goal is to destroy the old gods in whatever form,not that they fought an untainted one

2)Knowing GW secrets is a crime punishable by death if you're not an affiliates,kinda like Jory who was not allowed to live after that he saw the joining.

3)Try to save an old god as well as knowing the US secret without being a GW is a crime punishable by death.

Morrigan but this work with Flemeth as well,are not allowed to know,the fact that they know doesn't change the fact that they are not allowed to.

They both possessed without authorization the GW seals and treaties (which are GW secrets) this is why AListair threatened Morrigan into the wilds.

If you're not understand on how secretive the GW are and on how everything that revolves around them must remains within them without outsiders interference,then is your loss.

Morrigan is not allowed to possess any GW secret,the fact that she reveal this without being a member of the order,give to my warden every reason and and authorization to condemn her.

I will repeat this again,Morrigan is not allowed to know the Ultimate sacrifice secret without  being a GW,the fact that she know, give to every GW of the continent a valid reason to kill her.

 

[Aren]

 

2.  Knowing things isn't a crime.  

 

If they revolve around the GW it is,you have to be at least an affiliate like the seneschal of DAA,Morrigan is not even an affiliate like Woolsey or Varel.

[Darkly Tranquil]

1) i said that the GW main goal is to destroy the old gods in whatever form,not that they fought an untainted one
2)Knowing GW secrets is a crime punishable by death if you're not an affiliates,kinda like Jory who was not allowed to live after that he saw the joining.
3)Try to save an old god as well as knowing the US secret without being a GW is a crime punishable by death.

Morrigan but this work with Flemeth as well,are not allowed to know,the fact that they know doesn't change the fact that they are not allowed to.
They both possessed without authorization the GW seals and treaties (which are GW secrets) this is why AListair threatened Morrigan into the wilds.
If you're not understand on how secretive the GW are and on how everything that revolves around them must remains within them without outsiders interference,then is your loss.
Morrigan is not allowed to possess any GW secret,the fact that she reveal this without being a member of the order,give to my warden every reason and and authorization to condemn her.

I will repeat this again,Morrigan is not allowed to know the Ultimate sacrifice secret without  being a GW,the fact that she know, give to every GW of the continent a valid reason to kill her.

Knowing Grey Warden secrets is not a crime punishable by death because the Grey Wardens are not a sovereign entity capable of creating and enforcing laws in the manner of country. While the order may have rules about who is allowed to know what, it's not the equivalent of a law because the Wardens are what is known in international politics as a "non-state actor", and such entities cannot make laws. When the Grey Wardens kill someone who finds out their secrets it's plain old fashioned murder, no different to when the mafia kill an informer. So while the Wardens would indeed probably want to kill Morrigan for what she knows, they would not have any legal sanction to do so (not that they would care).