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Is Mass Effect: Andromeda a franchise reboot?


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I've been going over this in my head since I finished ME:1-3 a couple months ago, and following the news about ME:A.

 

No Shepherd, so his/her story is done?

No original series characters

New Galaxy, with new planets

New aliens and enemies and I'm assuming a new overall big bad

 

So my big question is, what exactly is it about Andromeda that makes this Mass Effect?  It seems like many of the defining features and characters of the franchise are being done away with and we're starting over from scratch due to the dissapointments of the ME:3 endings.

 

The only things I've seen so far that have been confirmed that make Andromeda "Mass Effect" are

1. Takes place in the same universe, with more or less the same technology (Mass Effect drives/Element Zero)

2. Supposedly a couple representatives of the races we already know (I think an Asari companion was revealed?)

3. Similar gameplay mechanics as ME:3

4.......Aaannnd I can't really think of anything else.

 

I'm just having trouble wrapping my head around this new game really being a "Mass Effect" game.  Don't get me wrong, it sounds like its going to be a very fun and intriguing game.  It just doesn't shake my lingering feelings of sadness that the original series I grew to love is completely dead and done with, to the point the entire thing has to be rebooted/restarted/removed to an entirely new setting with only the smallest of connections to the original games.

 

Does anyone else feel the same way?

 

Or am I missing seeing something important here?


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What made Star Trek:Voyager a Star Trek series?
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It's what you'd call a "soft reboot"  It's technically a sequel, but without the old cast, and likely little to no mention of past events.

 

And yeah, it's largely thanks to the endings.  They turned out to be a toxic pile of radioactive dung.  And even if they weren't, they affected the galaxy in a number of mutually exclusive ways (which wasn't too bright if they wanted to continue the franchise anyway).  In any case, they had to get away from them.

 

Honestly, I don't see what makes this series "Mass Effect" either.  Aside from the N7 logo, some similar tech like the Mako.  And a literal "blink and you miss it" shot of a krogan.


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The only things I've seen so far that have been confirmed that make Andromeda "Mass Effect" are

1. Takes place in the same universe, with more or less the same technology (Mass Effect drives/Element Zero)

2. Supposedly a couple representatives of the races we already know (I think an Asari companion was revealed?)

3. Similar gameplay mechanics as ME:3

So if a game set in the exact same universe, contains the many of same species, takes place on the same timeline, and plays almost exactly the same, then it's a reboot? That's like calling TNG or Skyrim a reboot.

 

No, it's not a direct sequel, but it's not intended to be, so BioWare dropped the setting and characters and are making new ones. You don't have to like it (I think a direct sequel would have been more interesting myself), but don't ignore the facts.



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Andromeda is basically The Next Generation for Mass Effect.

 

It's still obviously going to have biotics and tech users and many of the species from the first trilogy, it's just going to be its own story.

 

Mass Effect is more than just Shep and friends.


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I get where you're coming from, OP, but the way I think of it, it's up to the writers to decide how ME:A is a ME game.  As fans, we don't really have a say in what exactly ME is about.  We have our own interpretations, yeah, but in the end, the writers have the final say.

 

As for ME3's ending, the way it was set up meant that if ME was going to continue being in the Milky Way, BW would've had to make one of the endings canon, which could potentially lead to pissing off a lot of the fanbase.  Taking ME into the Andromeda galaxy to get away from ME3's endings is better than staying in the Milky Way.  Besides, BW stated more than a few times that ME3 was going to be the end of Shep's story, so that implies that ME isnt about Shep.

 

Think about it this way: DA isn't about the Warden, Hawke, or Inquisitor, even though they're each a protagonist (Warden in DA:O, Hawke in DA2, and Inquisitor in DA:I), it's about the world of Thedas and the different stories within that universe.  ME can be seen as being the same way.


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I do not see it as a reboot; I see it as more of a spin-off. Same universe, same lore, just different characters.
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It's what you'd call a "soft reboot"  It's technically a sequel, but without the old cast, and likely little to no mention of past events.

 

And yeah, it's largely thanks to the endings.  They turned out to be a toxic pile of radioactive dung.  And even if they weren't, they affected the galaxy in a number of mutually exclusive ways (which wasn't too bright if they wanted to continue the franchise anyway).  In any case, they had to get away from them.

 

Honestly, I don't see what makes this series "Mass Effect" either.  Aside from the N7 logo, some similar tech like the Mako.  And a literal "blink and you miss it" shot of a krogan.

Today I learned that series = trailer.


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Today I learned that series = trailer.

Trailer is supposed to get you interested in the series right?  Supposed to show you what in the game, etc?

 

How much "Mass Effect" did it show us?


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Trailer is supposed to get you interested in the series right?  Supposed to show you what in the game, etc?

 

How much "Mass Effect" did it show us?

It's not even a trailer, it's a teaser. It wasn't intended to get everyone riled up, just cognizant that Mass Effect is still a thing that exists. How Mass Effect is this teaser?

 

EA doesn't splurge on marketing for nothing; when they want to show you "Mass Effect," they will.


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It's not even a trailer, it's a teaser. It wasn't intended to get everyone riled up, just cognizant that Mass Effect is still a thing that exists. How Mass Effect is this teaser?

 

EA doesn't splurge on marketing for nothing; when they want to show you "Mass Effect," they will.

As opposed to DAI's E3 teaser

 

 

Which showed us Varric, Cassandra, Grey Wardens, a qunari (who turned out to be Iron Bull) and, of course Morrigan.



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Mass Effect.., is a principle, an effect on a object, not a specific object.

If you remember, Trainer has a tooth brush that uses "tiny mass effect fields to break up plague".

 

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Andromeda is basically The Next Generation for Mass Effect.

 

Patrick Stewart for main character VA?

"Make it so", Bioware,


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Just because it doesn't feature Shepard and crew doesn't mean it is a reboot, in fact it is more of a spin-off then reboot.  If it was a reboot all the questions you have would be yes we would be playing Shepard, we would be fighting a Reaper Threat, we would be having the same crew, we would be in the Milky Way Galaxy, and it would be the exact same races again and sadly there probably would be a new origin story for Shepard.



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I think "spin-off" would be the most accurate commentary so far.  As well as the different iterations of Star Trek.  I think the spin off idea is just dissatisfying to me because I still feel like "real" Mass Effect (ME:1-3) was never really wrapped up.  At least not satisfactorily.  But that's a done deal, and that water is so long under the bridge it doesn't matter. 

 

Still, it feels weird to get all excited for a new "Mass Effect" when it feels like the franchise is beginning all over again.  Without a satisfactory ending to the original stories obviously.

 

And I'm honestly not trying to make this a complaint thread at all.  I'm genuinely looking forward to playing ME:A as it's own thing, but not necessarily as the next chapter in the Mass Effect franchise, if that makes sense.  Just trying to discuss and see if I'm crazy or if other people feel the same way.


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Honestly, I don't see what makes this series "Mass Effect" either.  Aside from the N7 logo, some similar tech like the Mako.  And a literal "blink and you miss it" shot of a krogan.


Yeah, if you ignore all the visual cues of Mass Effect it's barely even like Mass Effect.  :rolleyes:


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Andromeda is basically The Next Generation for Mass Effect.

 

It's still obviously going to have biotics and tech users and many of the species from the first trilogy, it's just going to be its own story.

 

Mass Effect is more than just Legion and Friends.

You're not wrong.


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So if a game set in the exact same universe, contains the many of same species, takes place on the same timeline, and plays almost exactly the same, then it's a reboot? That's like calling TNG or Skyrim a reboot.

 

No, it's not a direct sequel, but it's not intended to be, so BioWare dropped the setting and characters and are making new ones. You don't have to like it (I think a direct sequel would have been more interesting myself), but don't ignore the facts.

I do not see it as a reboot; I see it as more of a spin-off. Same universe, same lore, just different characters.

Just because it doesn't feature Shepard and crew doesn't mean it is a reboot, in fact it is more of a spin-off then reboot.  If it was a reboot all the questions you have would be yes we would be playing Shepard, we would be fighting a Reaper Threat, we would be having the same crew, we would be in the Milky Way Galaxy, and it would be the exact same races again and sadly there probably would be a new origin story for Shepard.

 

These.

 

It is set in the same universe with the same rules, history and species. It occurs in a different galaxy with new characters and probably some new aliens - but its still mass effect.


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No Shepherd, so his/her story is done?


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These.

 

It is set in the same universe with the same rules, history and species. It occurs in a different galaxy with new characters and probably some new aliens - but its still mass effect.

 

I thought the franchise was based on the made up technology called mass effect the species of the Milky Way galaxy used for long distance space faring. And since the technology came from reapers the only way i can see Andromeda working is the races coming from Milky Way bringing the mass relay tech with them. Im sorry, but a few asari and krogan crew mate dont make mass effect, its just fan service. "Mass Effect" does. You can say in another galaxy another kind of tech evolved to do the same thing but then only the title will be mass effect and you could call it any "random space shooter franchise" instead of it.

 

And yes, this is some kind of reboot/spin-off because the original team finished the story of Shepard and the Milky Way galaxy and they even stated this in the mass effect retrospective video long ago. The mystery behind the protheans and their mass effect technology is solved.



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Like some have said, I think the more correct term is indeed Spin-off. 

Interestingly enough, I consider DA2 and DA:I reboots of the Dragon Age franchise, even though they never were marketed as one.



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Fact,

Shiz in your own bed,

Get as far away as possible,

And go find a new bed.

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I thought the franchise was based on the made up technology called mass effect the species of the Milky Way galaxy used for long distance space faring. And since the technology came from reapers the only way i can see Andromeda working is the races coming from Milky Way bringing the mass relay tech with them. Im sorry, but a few asari and krogan crew mate dont make mass effect, its just fan service. "Mass Effect" does. You can say in another galaxy another kind of tech evolved to do the same thing but then only the title will be mass effect and you could call it any "random space shooter franchise" instead of it.

 

And yes, this is some kind of reboot/spin-off because the original team finished the story of Shepard and the Milky Way galaxy and they even stated this in the mass effect retrospective video long ago. The mystery behind the protheans and their mass effect technology is solved.

Yes it is a spin off, a different story in the same setting, that of mass effect. 

 

Mass effect is used for alot more than just FTL travel using relays.

 

Mass effect fields are created through the use of element zero. Element zero can increase or decrease the mass content of space-time when subjected to an electrical current via dark energy. With a positive current, mass is increased. With a negative current, mass is decreased. The stronger the current, the greater the magnitude of the dark energy mass effect. In space, low-mass fields allow FTL travel and inexpensive surface-to-orbit transit. High-mass fields create artificial gravity and push space debris away from starships. In manufacturing, low-mass fields permit the creation of evenly-blended alloys, while high mass compaction creates dense, sturdy construction materials.

The military makes extensive use of mobility enhancing technologies, with mass effect-utilizing fighting vehiclesbeing standard front-line issue in most military forces. The Mako's small element zero core can reduce the vehicle's mass enough to allow a safe drop from the Normandy. Mass effect fields are also essential in the creation of shields to protect against enemy fire on the ground, and protect starships in planetary orbit or during space battles.

Many biotics can also use mass effect fields, which are biologically generated and controlled. This requires intensive training, and cybernetic implants, but can produce impressive offensive or defensive effects. Some biotics' talents are not strong enough to be offensively viable, but all biotics are sensitive to the presence of mass effect fields.

However, the use of mass effect fields creates static electrical charge. In starship drive cores, this charge must be grounded at regular intervals, either by touching a planet surface or interacting with a planet's geomagnetic field, to prevent the electricity discharging into the hull and causing catastrophic damage. For biotics, this manifests as an occasional static shock when they touch metal or other people. - From the wiki

 

So yes the mass effect fields that are the series namesake will be very present in the game as it is vital to much of the tech and abilties involved such as biotics, shields and the mako. 

 

The reapers didn't invent mass effect fields anymore than we invented electricity, they just invented technology to use it via Dark energy (which like gravity and electromagnetism is meant to influence all matter), so its completely reasonable to think that species in other galaxies (if sufficiently advanced) could find their own ways of using it.


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Yeah, if you ignore all the visual cues of Mass Effect it's barely even like Mass Effect.  :rolleyes:

Mainly because the visual cues are so few and far between, yeah.


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BW's been very insistent that ME:A has nothing to do with the trilogy. It's not a sequel, prequel or sidequel. It is its own story. ST:NG was a continuation of Kirk's universe and the show referenced past events from TOS quite often. ME:A, I feel, will have a much stronger disconnect and will be to the trilogy what Jedi Academy is to KOTOR. They're set in the same universe and use similar technology, but that's about it. That doesn't mean it's going to be bad. In fact it could be quite good. We'll just have to wait and see. Reboot, spinoff, ME:NG, call it what you will, I don't think it matters. It's a clean slate w/ a new story.