Given the options between major brand awareness and a slightly annoyed minority of core fans, BioWare made the better decision.
Indeed. Of course Bioware fans will buy Bioware product, but most buyers aren't Bioware fans (the kind of which bothers to post on forums, anyway). There's little reason not to use the Mass Effect brand here, if Bioware is going to make a space opera ARPG.
Indeed. Of course Bioware fans will buy Bioware product, but most buyers aren't Bioware fans (the kind of which bothers to post on forums, anyway). There's little reason not to use the Mass Effect brand here, if Bioware is going to make a space opera ARPG.
I agree, if BioWare did drop Mass Effect and just made a similar game just with a different name I am pretty sure there would be more people wondering why they didn't call it Mass Effect then the people that are going to be annoyed about the changes to the game.
I agree, if BioWare did drop Mass Effect and just made a similar game just with a different name I am pretty sure there would be more people wondering why they didn't call it Mass Effect then the people that are going to be annoyed about the changes to the game.
Anyone who knew anything about the ME3 debacle would understand
Anyone who knew anything about the ME3 debacle would understand
As bad as the endings were, I'm pretty sure most people understand that Bioware wants a clean slate from where they can tell more stories in the setting. I wouldn't want them to leave the franchise to rot just because of the Catalyst and associated sillyness. Abandoning Mass Effect only to have a suspiciously similar sci-fi setting just because they don't want to deal with the endings would have been a far worse move to me.
This YouTuber made an interesting video about the different endings and the potential implications for ME:A.
Check it out if you're interested:
I am a part of the ME:A sceptics society and I've stated before my worries with regards to how BioWare will handle this transition. Many people feel like it won't be Mass Effect, and I understand that very well. My hope is that BioWare is able to bring the spirit of Mass Effect to Andromeda. This implies that many of the different races, unique cultures and ideas are back. We also need an undercurrent of history to be present in some form or another, in an effort to sustain a living breathing Universe that is familiar to us. We are still in the same Universe, even though we're in a different galaxy. However, BioWare has to convince us that we're in the same Universe, and they have to begin with a solid explanation for how the journey to Andromeda was made possible.
Maybe more people could mention what they think is required for ME:A to be a true Mass Effect.
This YouTuber made an interesting video about the different endings and the potential implications for ME:A.
Check it out if you're interested:
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I am a part of the ME:A sceptics society and I've stated before my worries with regards to how BioWare will handle this transition. Many people feel like it won't be Mass Effect, and I understand that very well. My hope is that BioWare is able to bring the spirit of Mass Effect to Andromeda. This implies that many of the different races, unique cultures and ideas are back. We also need an undercurrent of history to be present in some form or another, in an effort to sustain a living breathing Universe that is familiar to us. We are still in the same Universe, even though we're in a different galaxy. However, BioWare has to convince us that we're in the same Universe, and they have to begin with a solid explanation for how the journey to Andromeda was made possible.
Maybe more people could mention what they think is required for ME:A to be a true Mass Effect.
The easiest way for me to describe what Mass Effect is to me is what is contained in the codex entries. The lore of the universe itself and how that shaped and drove the reactions in the game. Things like the First Contact War, how so much of the technology is driven by Mass Effect Fields, or how certain races trusted or distrusted one another. Of course that won't be the basis of the game and will only make up a certain percentage, but at the same time that knowledge and how what they do bring forward is what to me is important.
So if there really is a Krogan in the game having their reactions go along with what happened with the history Genophage is important for that shaped their race for hundreds of years and I wouldn't expect being cured or not being cured to instantly change how Krogan's would react to a similar situation in another galaxy. It doesn't even have to be just a negative response either, it just has to have an influence on that individuals thought process.
To me the change from Shepard and the Milky Way would have been a larger impact on the game if the games only played out like Multiplayer did for Mass Effect 3, but there is a lot going on behind the scenes and now we get to explore other areas.
Chris Wynn confirmed it as a spin-off in a twitter tweet or whatever they call it.
@The1Wynn is the ME Andromeda a spin off of ME canon?
@orisein wouldn't anything we do be part of canon? Therefore, yes.
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I suppose the question is, how does ME:A relate to the previous Mass Effect games?
1. Does it follow up on the characters? No, those characters are finished.
2: Does it follow up on the setting? Apparently not, as it takes place in a completely different new setting in another galaxy.
3. Does it follow up on the storyline? Maybe, if the previous events in the story somehow lead to whatever it is we're doing in this other galaxy.
4. Does it follow up on the themes? Maybe, but I don't see it. It seems to me that they've said all they had to say about it, and in the end it wasn't very good.
5. Or... is Mass Effect just guns, biotic powers, and yellow light gauntlet thingies, and as long as you have that you can just stamp the logo on it and call it Mass Effect?
It's weird to be so unexcited about it. A new Mass Effect game used to be something that I couldn't wait for, now it's only something that I'm mildly interested in. But who knows? Maybe it will be brilliant and the next one after that will be something to look forward to.
5. Or... is Mass Effect just guns, biotic powers, and yellow light gauntlet thingies, and as long as you have that you can just stamp the logo on it and call it Mass Effect?
It's weird to be so unexcited about it. A new Mass Effect game used to be something that I couldn't wait for, now it's only something that I'm mildly interested in. But who knows? Maybe it will be brilliant and the next one after that will be something to look forward to.
Mass Effect is so much more than its cosmetic aspects, and I am sure most fans agree. Once again, I hope BioWare knows what they are doing.
I can understand your sentiment. The conclusion of ME3 was the end of a wonderful era. I don't know if ME:A can fill that void. I think my uncertainty serves as a restraint on my excitement.
But Mass Effect is also more than its often nonsensical, self-contradictory, revisionist and not all that well developed lore. And the illustration of that is ME2. IMO, Mass Effect is at its best when it tells disconnected sci-fi vignettes that explore some aspect of this fun and imaginative science fantasy universe without getting bogged down in its awful made up science, incoherent and often nonsensical politics, and dramatic ™ B-movie plot about Eldrich space abominations.
Tell that to ME3
Chris Wynn confirmed it as a spin-off in a twitter tweet or whatever they call it.
I hope this will hold true, especailly in the sense of how spin-offs are usually done. I would like to start in a familiar place, like the Citadel or one of the planets we visited during the trilogy. Than, during the prologue/intro, we move to Andromeda and from that point forward, we go our own way with the occasional reference to the old material but little to no direct connection.
I am thinking of some of the IMO better starts for spin-offs, such as Star Trek Deep Space 9, which still featured TNGs Enterprise in the pilot (and Voyager, which in turn launched from DS9). Or maybe Stargate Atlantis, which starts in the old SGC but then cuts ties for the entire first season.
Those are not reboots, they use the old material as a basis but then tell their own independent story. That, for me would be the ideal way to go for ME:A and from the little we know so far, chances are good that this is what we'll get.
Anyone who knew anything about the ME3 debacle would understand
Tell that to ME3
It's been three years.
Don't you think still moping around the forums might be just a little self-indulgent at this point?
Reboots are often complete re-imaginations of the original game from it's core to the final stage. Need new World which is completely different than the original. We got that already: Andromeda. Mass Effect 1-2-3 never mention another Galaxies, only The Milky Way. So MET is strictly Milky Way. MEA might be a reboot and need a connection between MET and MEA.
MEA got a pretty much high chance that may be announced as a "franchise reboot" if we won't get that "connection".
The problem with the whole TNG / DS9 comparison is that the main characters can travel to places that will be recognisable from the original series' universe, e.g back to Earth, which helps build continuity and reinforce the sense that it is one connected place, timeline and setting.
ME:A has to stay away from the Milky Way (which is the series roots) and therefore can't.
As someone said earlier, Voyager would be a better comparison then.
Tell that to ME3
It's been three years.
Don't you think still moping around the forums might be just a little self-indulgent at this point?
Don't you think your condescension is a bit rude? Get off your high horse.
Don't you think your condescension is a bit rude? Get off your high horse.
As someone said earlier, Voyager would be a better comparison then.
Well no, because they still communicate with the old setting and thus it ties itself into it that way.
It doesn't abandon it completely.
Where has it been said aside from people's speculation that Mass Effect: Andromeda abandons the Milky Way completely? All I have found says it takes place there.
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It's weird to be so unexcited about it. A new Mass Effect game used to be something that I couldn't wait for, now it's only something that I'm mildly interested in. But who knows? Maybe it will be brilliant and the next one after that will be something to look forward to.
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And, that excitement... was my feelings leading me to pre-order DAI. Then I played the game and my Euphoria Baloon popped. Mostly, because of the KB+M game control abomination, followed by a huge world game designed to compete with the likes of Skyrim but failed miserably in making good use of this beautiful terrain... then we get the JUMP feature!!.... then... I better stop here.
Bio marketing machine is slowly cranking up and seems to follow in DAI's footsteps. They don't come here in the Forums, but use the tweeter channel for leaking tidbits of this and tidbits of that..... so far all meh....except for those fans easily lead by their nose...
A Mass Effect game is what I'm looking forward with new characters and a new story adventure. However, I will wait until after launch before considering buying the game.... you can thank DAI for that change in attitude.
Don't you think your condescension is a bit rude? Get off your high horse.
Where has it been said aside from people's speculation that Mass Effect: Andromeda abandons the Milky Way completely? All I have found says it takes place there.
Andromeda is so far away it shouldn't be possible to get there at all without , yet more space magic on the level of the Lazarus Project or the Crucible. Let alone getting back.
In addition, the endings to ME3 are so radioactive Bioware is clearly running as far away form them as possible, no matter how little sense it makes (see above) So it's pretty reasonable to assume they're just leaving the mess behind and are clear-cutting another section of the rain forest instead..
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