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[Sinistrality]

As above, does anyone out there like it? I feel it just messes with gameplay more then anything else. Sure, you could use it to setup for a self rez, but I find I've had my marks die during simulacrum more often then gaining one in simulacrum, so I just go right to the dirt. Or a bunch of enemies die from bomb, in simulacrum. Full hp and down in the dirt again. Would of been a nice self-rez, but no some damn spirit from the fade wanted me to keep standing for ten more seconds.

 

There is only one good thing about simulacrum. When I'm turning the trebuchet wheel and a dragonling kills me, but my ghost keeps turning it. Whoooooooooooooooooooooooo~ 

[Yallegro]

No I don't like it

 

Maybe if you could come back to life if you reach full health in 10 seconds

 

Death still counts, no potions

[ErySakasegawa]

No, even more because it's mandatory. Can't access Necro's primary skills without choosing it.

[Sothalor]

Can we just swap it out for Guardian Spirit, please?

[Theghostof_timmy]

I like it fine. 99% of problems people have with the necro are L2P issues. I self revived over 10 times in my last NM FC match a few minutes ago.

[BiggyDX]

Conceptually, I like it. In practice, no so much. While it does give you some extra time to cast off a Spirit Mark, by itself it's somewhat lackluster. I would have liked it if Simulacrum triggered an innate HoK effect, and if you're able to kill enough enemies to get your health above a certain threshold, you come back from the dead.

[htisscrimbliv]

I think it's quite nice actually. The mana free spell casting is nice and the ability to self revive is quite good. Maybe it shouldnt be mandatory but hey it's a necromancer

[ottffsse]

I don't bother with spirit mark personally. If she goes into similicrum I just place some dots on enemies and let them tick away. Usually that self res because of heal on kill especially on perilous. On nightmare that is trickier to do because of enemy health and hopefully there is an enemy with low health nearby who she can mark with a dot / or launch an energy barrage at at the last second.

[CremeDelight]

Simulacrum + Deathward is pretty nice though, but you are sacrificing a lot of damage to do so.

[Yallegro]

I like it fine. 99% of problems people have with the necro are L2P issues. I self revived over 10 times in my last NM FC match a few minutes ago.

You self revived over 10 times in 1 match?

That's not a good thing Timmy, you are just rushing yourself into the fade

[ruggie]

The necto needs a buff at least in walking bomb. There's no damage mage she's border line useless. But yeah I like the ghost mode.

[Theghostof_timmy]

You self revived over 10 times in 1 match?

That's not a good thing Timmy, you are just rushing yourself into the fade

I only went into the fade once on zone 4, because I got instakilled after reviving. It's simply how to play the necro without barrier. I do wish I had that guard on hit staff though.

[Silversmurf]

I like it fine. 99% of problems people have with the necro are L2P issues. I self revived over 10 times in my last NM FC match a few minutes ago.

Yes he did

Every time I went to revive he popped back up again.

Let's you play a little more freely

[HelenCarnate]

I like it fine. 99% of problems people have with the necro are L2P issues. I self revived over 10 times in my last NM FC match a few minutes ago.

And how is dying over 10 times in one match not a L2P issue?

[Theghostof_timmy]

And how is dying over 10 times in one match not a L2P issue?

Because I have very little downtime, with no barriers and medium stats on Nightmare?

[Yallegro]

I only went into the fade once on zone 4, because I got instakilled after reviving. It's simply how to play the necro without barrier. I do wish I had that guard on hit staff though.

nnooo

 

that would be Ice Armor, kiting, use of cover and everything but dying

[T_elic]

My main issue with it is that spirit mark revives count toward your 3 "normal" revives. It's a bit silly that if i self revive 3 times during a match(yeah, shame on me) and then get downed a 4th time i auto enter the fade.

[Theghostof_timmy]

nnooo

 

that would be Ice Armor, kiting, use of cover and everything but dying

Ooooooor I can play in a way that isn't super boring and ineffective.

[Kissraven]

My main issue with it is that spirit mark revives count toward your 3 "normal" revives. It's a bit silly that if i self revive 3 times during a match(yeah, shame on me) and then get downed a 4th time i auto enter the fade.

 

 

I like it fine. 99% of problems people have with the necro are L2P issues. I self revived over 10 times in my last NM FC match a few minutes ago.

 

This. (How can one person say it counts toward revives and another do it 10x in a match...Grrr....) I admit I don't understand the passive very well. Rarely used SM though, but due to my lack of knowledge on the passive I do not like it. I wish how it worked was better explained, like some people say there is an internal cooldown on it, but I've seen people use it back to back to back faster than say a 60 sec cooldown would allow. On my part yes a L2P issue, but then why does it seem this passive is so confusing for a lot of people...

 

If someone wants to give a detailed explanation on how to use it properly it would be much appreciated. 

[Yallegro]

Ooooooor I can play in a way that isn't super boring and ineffective.

 

 

 

There's always that hope

[Theghostof_timmy]

This. (How can one person say it counts toward revives and another do it 10x in a match...Grrr....) I admit I don't understand the passive very well. Rarely used SM though, but due to my lack of knowledge on the passive I do not like it. I wish how it worked was better explained, like some people say there is an internal cooldown on it, but I've seen people use it back to back to back faster than say a 60 sec cooldown would allow. On my part yes a L2P issue, but then why does it seem this passive is so confusing for a lot of people...

 

If someone wants to give a detailed explanation on how to use it properly it would be much appreciated. 

It counts towards your deaths but you can be revived from the fade, so really there is no cap when it comes to the necro. If you mess up and don't have a spirit minion or your DoTs fail to kill an enemy while you're in the fade you're done for the wave, but barring that you can revive infinitely.

 

@yallegro it's a waste of time talking to you. You can rip on how I do things all you want, but at the end of the day I'm still alive and fighting and not running around like a pansy, hoping my glitchy ice armor doesn't fail.

[Texasmotiv]

I feel like if someone looks at me in NM my necro pops into Ghost mode. Like some sort of performance anxiety. I've stopped using her in NM if I can help it. One angry Terror and I`m donezo. Which sucks because she is my favorite mage.

 

@Yallegro How do you get Ice armor to work? I hit things with WG+ and Frost Step but its about 20% of the time that Ice armor pops on. Only way I can get it to work consistently is to spec into blizzard, but that's just asking for trouble.

[CremeDelight]

@Yallegro How do you get Ice armor to work? I hit things with WG+ and Frost Step but its about 20% of the time that Ice armor pops on. Only way I can get it to work consistently is to spec into blizzard, but that's just asking for trouble.

 

Ice Mine is pretty much the only stable way to get Ice Armor.

 

Frost Step will not trigger Ice Armor in all circumstances because it can't actually freeze enemies, only chill them.

[sonofbarak]

I think also its an l2p issue if u self revive 10 times using an glitch. You need naught to play that char anymore

[Yallegro]

I feel like if someone looks at me in NM my necro pops into Ghost mode. Like some sort of performance anxiety. I've stopped using her in NM if I can help it. One angry 

 

Terror and I`m donezo. Which sucks because she is my favorite mage.

 

@Yallegro How do you get Ice armor to work? I hit things with WG+ and Frost Step but its about 20% of the time that Ice armor pops on. Only way I can get it to work consistently is to spec into blizzard, but that's just asking for trouble.

 

Ice Mine is pretty much the only stable way to get Ice Armor.

 

Frost Step will not trigger Ice Armor in all circumstances because it can't actually freeze enemies, only chill them.

 

Yup Ice Mine. If you are in a really strong team you can fuel Blizzard with dead enemies.

 

A video is about to go online in which I demonstrate this