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[CosmicGnosis]

I'm confused about what was going to become of Corypheus in the dark future seen during In Hushed Whispers. He was clearly obsessed with figuring out a way to change history so that he never lost the Anchor, but that effort was doomed to failure. So then what was he going to do? Was the expanding Breach a threat to him? What about the Eluvian in the Arbor Wilds? Would he have resorted to that in the dark future?

 

It's also interesting that, even in the present, Corypheus doesn't attempt to re-create the Anchor. It must be an incredibly difficult ritual, requiring extraordinarily powerful magic. Makes one wonder about the significance of Divine Justinia as a sacrifice. 

[Kantr]

He wanted to get back to the fade so eventually as the world is swallowed he'd get his wish. However he wouldn't have anything left to rule seeing as the whole world would be gone.

[CosmicGnosis]

So was the Breach an accident caused by the Inquisitor's meddling? I thought it was, but Corypheus says the following:

 

"You used the Anchor to undo my work. The gall!"

 

He says this after the Breach has been sealed. So did he want the Breach to exist? Did he want it to consume the world?

[Caddius]

I'm not sure why he didn't try out the Eluvian and Well in the Dark Future. Or maybe he did, but it didn't work. After all, in the Dark Future, he's likely won the Rebellion and the Templars, and the Inquisition is too weak to stand against him. The Sentinels struggle against his forces when the Venatori and Red Templars have been cut down to a fraction of their former strength. Or, I guess Abelas could have destroyed the Well and the Eluvian before the Temple fell. *shrug*

The Anchor allows the wielder (and others nearby, apparently) enter the Fade physically. The Breach was probably meant to sow chaos and serve as a gateway. I'm curious if the explosion was intended or if it was the result of the Inquisitor's interference. If the Anchor was burned into Corypheus instead, would he retain it through his body-swap, or is it specifically imprinted onto his body? Solas's comments almost make me think it's more of a 'soul' thing, a connection made in the Fade. That's all ambiguous, technical stuff though.

The Breach does wonders to cause chaos in the South, which makes his conquering of it much easier. So he nips into the Black City, gorges himself on Blight power again, and then uses the Anchor to seal up the Breach once he's created the Retro Tevinter Imperium in the South? Or keep it steady so that he can easily maintain armies of demons as enforcers?

All of this just reminds me that Corypheus was a High Priest of Dumat rather than a master strategist with a clear agenda. 

[Merengues 1945]

Archdemon Dumat and his minions brought the entire continent to its heels and then the grey wardens solved the whole mess through magic and badassery, surely at some point this mere puppet called Corypheus would meet the same terrible end in the hands of some nasty old elves just to make it more spiteful.

 

Who knows, maybe the darkspawn find a new old god and voila, he goes back to serve as a good pet of the blight as he's always been... The thing is, until what point could Corypheus really mantain a demon army? They all want something, and Coryphenus couldn't truly cater forever, at some point, resorting to demons instead of darkspawn would only come to bite him in the ass.

 

In any case, that future never came to be. Just picture a future without Dorian, Oh my golly! What a travesti!"

[TeffexPope]

I think it shows that his plan was doomed to failure the moment the Herald intervened. There's no way to undo what happened at the Temple of Sacred Ashes, and he would rule over a world populated by wild, unbound demons killing everything in their path until nothing was left, and some Venatori crazies. I imagine he'd be miserable for all of eternity, a world completely dead and ruined thanks to his arrogance.

[Dai Grepher]

In Hushed Whispers is a complete mess. Don't even bother with it. Have Cole help you forget if you need to.

 

My guess is that Corypheus eventually did recreate the anchor. And he probably did invade the Black City again. It's just that he didn't find what he thought was there. He was searching for the "power of the gods" and the fact is that no such power ever existed in that place. So Corypheus was left with nothing but the power he already had, and from that point he was probably just trying to keep his plans going. Trying to figure out how to recreate the world as he wanted it, even while it was being scrambled by the breach and the Fade.

[CosmicGnosis]

Then I guess he wouldn't be much of a god if he couldn't fix the veil and separate the physical and spiritual worlds again.

[Dai Grepher]

Well... he wasn't a god. But I think he would want to keep the breach open in order to use the energies of the Fade to craft things in the real world. Like what Solas says in a conversation you can have with him about the Fade. So Corypheus was probably trying to use these limited abilities to remake the world, which would be a huge undertaking since everything you create would eventually get changed by something else that can manipulate the Fade.

[BansheeOwnage]

So was the Breach an accident caused by the Inquisitor's meddling? I thought it was, but Corypheus says the following:

 

"You used the Anchor to undo my work. The gall!"

 

He says this after the Breach has been sealed. So did he want the Breach to exist? Did he want it to consume the world?

I don't think the Breach ever did or ever could consume the world, just destroy the veil, which is what happened in the Dark Future. Sure, there are demons everywhere, but the world is intact and somewhat functional.

[Sifr]

He wanted to get back to the fade so eventually as the world is swallowed he'd get his wish. However he wouldn't have anything left to rule seeing as the whole world would be gone.

 

Except that when the world is swallowed up into the Fade, without the Anchor to allow him to survive the passage through the Veil, Corypheus would end up just as dead as everyone else who's unlucky enough to still be around to see the boom.

 

That's probably why the reason he sent his dragon and the demons to Redcliffe. He wasn't trying to kill the Inquisitor, he wanted to capture them so he could steal the Anchor from them, hoping to use it to escape into the Fade before the world imploded around him. After all, in the Dark Future, the events at Haven never happened, so this version of Corypheus does not know that the Anchor cannot be removed.

 

My suspicion is that in the Dark Future, despite having taken over, Corypheus is just as screwed as everyone else by reality falling apart.

[Kantr]

Except that when the world is swallowed up into the Fade, without the Anchor to allow him to survive the passage through the Veil, Corypheus would end up just as dead as everyone else who's unlucky enough to still be around to see the boom.

 

That's probably why the reason he sent his dragon and the demons to Redcliffe. He wasn't trying to kill the Inquisitor, he wanted to capture them so he could steal the Anchor from them, hoping to use it to escape into the Fade before the world imploded around him. After all, in the Dark Future, the events at Haven never happened, so this version of Corypheus does not know that the Anchor cannot be removed.

 

My suspicion is that in the Dark Future, despite having taken over, Corypheus is just as screwed as everyone else by reality falling apart.

But does Corypheus know that the Inquisitor has turned up? It might be that he was after Alexius. Plus perhaps with the re-opened rift he got another anchor?

[Sifr]

But does Corypheus know that the Inquisitor has turned up? It might be that he was after Alexius. Plus perhaps with the re-opened rift he got another anchor?

 

Jaws of Hakkon revealed that the Anchor serves as a giant batsignal for local spirits in the vicinity of the Inquisitor, so every spirit always knows where they are... or else can quickly learn from other spirits via the grapevine. With the amount of bound spirits and demons in Corypheus' army, it could be that he learned of them showing up again that way?

 

The Breach wasn't sealed in the Dark Future timeline as well, meaning it's the same one from the start of the game. I don't think Corypheus was able to create another Anchor because he didn't have one when he opened the second Breach at the end of the game.

 

Speaking of the Breach, I wondered in my latest playthrough whether the Breach was so large in the Dark Future because the Inquisitor and Anchor had been absent for that year that was skipped over?

 

We saw that the Breach was rapidly expanding during the beginning before the Inquisitor awoke and mastered the Anchor enough to keep it from getting any larger. Perhaps we actually did "anchor" ourselves to the Breach during the start of the game and had been unwittingly responsible for holding it at bay... but when we weren't around anymore, the Breach began to expand again?

[Kantr]

Jaws of Hakkon revealed that the Anchor serves as a giant batsignal for local spirits in the vicinity of the Inquisitor, so every spirit always knows where they are... or else can quickly learn from other spirits via the grapevine. With the amount of bound spirits and demons in Corypheus' army, it could be that he learned of them showing up again that way?

 

The Breach wasn't sealed in the Dark Future timeline as well, meaning it's the same one from the start of the game. I don't think Corypheus was able to create another Anchor because he didn't have one when he opened the second Breach at the end of the game.

 

Speaking of the Breach, I wondered in my latest playthrough whether the Breach was so large in the Dark Future because the Inquisitor and Anchor had been absent for that year that was skipped over?

 

We saw that the Breach was rapidly expanding during the beginning before the Inquisitor awoke and mastered the Anchor enough to keep it from getting any larger. Perhaps we actually did "anchor" ourselves to the Breach during the start of the game and had been unwittingly responsible for holding it at bay... but when we weren't around anymore, the Breach began to expand again?

Could be, or cory had time to re-open it in the year the Inquisitor was out of time. Do you think he went to the temple of mythal in that future and took the well?

[Sifr]

Could be, or cory had time to re-open it in the year the Inquisitor was out of time. Do you think he went to the temple of mythal in that future and took the well?

 

In my mind, the Sentinel Elves decided to destroy the Well (and Eluvian) far quicker in the Dark Future timeline, realising that they had no chance of holding off an entire army consisting of demons, Red Templars and Venatori, backed up by a dragon.

 

Whereas in "What Pride Had Wrought", the reason that Abelas holds off on destroying the Well, is because he hoped that the two armies would either wipe each other out before reaching the temple, or that the defences and Sentinels could handle anyone who had gotten inside.