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#26
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What are we running away from in the first place? The reapers are the good guys. They tried their best throughout 3 games to prevent us from seeing the terrible ending.

 

In order to preserve the species, I don't see why the people who run away are cowards, more like pioneers of a new world. It's actually a task to continue the legacy of the old galaxy if the old one were to be destroyed. 



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That seems fair to me. I would hope they would allow for that kind of reaction. But it also depend on when the game opens. If it's a recent, or present event, then yes, allow the player to express their feelings towards it all.

 

If the game opens with us already there, and possibly there for generations, then the PC would not know anything else. Maybe, if that's the case, the PC could have a certain nostalgia because of the stories they've heard of the Milky Way? I imagine either way, the setting in Andromeda would not be as slick as the established pre-Reaper invasion society of the MW.

 

I can imagine a PC that would wax poetic about a civilization lost. And being stuck in some backwater province type of thing. Kind of like an idea of Atlantis. This shimmering, glimmering advanced civilization that once was, but now here we are.

Both options are quite promising. Still I hope PC won't be native so won't be asking to tell us stories about Earth.

At least N7 guys indicates that we are first generation invaders. Or that people are still being awaken from stasis after dozens of years since arrival, could be even more interesting. Or this armor may be simply a legacy of his beloved grandpa.



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first I would pat myself on the back for being right.

 

then

 

I would proceed with enjoying the game.

 

My take on the ark theory is that it seems highly reasonable that such an act could have existed during that last fateful year. Think about it. The Reapers WERE winning. Every species in the top had lost their home worlds. Only the Krogan seemed to be hanging on and that is due to the harsh conditions of their world and they themselves as a race. But humanity, the asari and the turians all saw their home worlds fall. An act of desperation created the "ark" And its not that far fetched. Even Liara planted schematics to the crucible as well as all the information she could get on the Reapers across multiple worlds. So if we all failed, the next races to rule the galaxy might find a way.

 

As I recall, I think my femshep had a discussion with her love interest about just taking the Normandy and fleeing to the farthest corner of the galaxy and hope the Reapers never showed up. An act I believe my femshep would have taken had all become lost and such a chance still existed.

 

So to play as someone who was sent with the ark to find a new galaxy to begin life anew... yeah I'm totally cool with that. And preservation is not an act of cowardliness.



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          what will be your reaction; if the ark theory is true and our new heroes will be the cowards who runaway from milkway

   like chickens, while everybody was fighting till the last drop of blood.

 

I would laugh. "So the Asari Councilor was right after all. Continuity of civilization must be considered. I never thought this day would come."

 

It wouldn't be cowardice. It would be pragmatism. Save those whom you can save. Some wars cannot be won. These people would be heroes who saved hundreds of thousands who might otherwise have been killed: outright, made into husks, or liquefied into a reaper.

 

With giant killbots flying around the galaxy wiping out planets and practically no hope other than one Hail Mary pass at the end of the game possible, and if that fails becoming reaper chow, I'd probably sign up and be hoping my name was drawn to make the trip.


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          what will be your reaction; if the ark theory is true and our new heroes will be the cowards who runaway from milkway

   like chickens, while everybody was fighting till the last drop of blood.

 

Reaction:

 

Damn, that was smart and clever as hell to get out of there undetected, and pretty ballsy to go to a place where you don't know

 

1) What the hell is even there

2) If there are resources

3) What new threats are out there

4) If you can contact family/friends again

5) The results of the Reaper War (hence being sad/depressed about family/friends possible deaths)

Next Reaction:

 

Now who do I shoot at and when?



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Both options are quite promising. Still I hope PC won't be native so won't be asking to tell us stories about Earth.

At least N7 guys indicates that we are first generation invaders. Or that people are still being awaken from stasis after dozens of years since arrival, could be even more interesting. Or this armor may be simply a legacy of his beloved grandpa.

 

I don't know what the deal is with that N7 guy. And I fear that we may make more of it than there actually is to make of it.

 

...I hope it's interesting, though, and not just stand in for trailer purposes.

 

I hope PC won;t be native either. So as to get the full impact of the whole ordeal. What we left. What we are facing. Idk, what they're gonna do, though. What their approach will be.



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I'm fine with it. Running like cowards is choosing life over death. Bravest thing we could do.

 

In seriousness, we're talking about the continuity of a galactic society and multiple species. Bravely fighting the good fight to the last man is nice and all, but it doesn't do you much good when the end result is you being one of countless voices screaming in horror forever once you've been fused into a Reaper.

 

There's a one in four chance that we lose, and that chance comes down entirely to the decision of a marine who's likely suffering from a concussion and severe blood loss. With that in mind, I think that having contingency plans in place - such as, I don't know, sending people to survive in another galaxy - is a pretty good idea in hindsight.

 

Having said that, Andromeda does become a bit of a shaggy dog story for the Control, Synthesis, and high EMS Destruction endings. That's why, while I consider the high EMS Destruction ending to be the best ending to the trilogy, I think that the Refusal ending is the best ending when taking Andromeda into account, as now we are the last hope of preserving the Milky Way culture.



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You know, it could be said that Shep bailed out on earth. But it was for a greater good. Shep wanted to stay and fight the good fight. Had to leave Anderson behind. I always cringed a little when ppl would point that out, "Oh, but Anderson stayed behind to fight."

 

It was for the greater good that Shep fled. It would be for the greater good in this scenario as well.


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I wouldn't buy MEA then. Not because i think it'll make MEA a bad game, but that it feel's like little to no effort put to the writing there and I don't want to be forced to play through that which you know you likely will be. It's a solution a child could think of, and not worth my time.



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      I gotta say I'm actually kinda disappointed your reactions,you never agreed with Shepard?


  Defense Committee;  there must be someway?

  Shepard; if we're gonna have any chance at survivng this WE HAVE TO STAND TOGETHER!

  Defense Committee ;thats it? thats our plan?

  Defense Committee; what do we do?

  Shepard; the only thing we can; WE FIGHT OR WE DIE!


        so if you were Shepard you would say; (quotes from your posts)

 

 

  Defense Committee; what do we do?

  Shepard; 'let's get the hell outta here'

  Defense Committee; what about rest of us? what about trillions of lifes left behind?

  Shepard; who cares! new galaxy is waiting for us,new locations,exploration,adventure huraaaaa!!! this is this bravest thing to do!!! lets save our own neck yeaaa!!

  this is for the greater good ..go go...

    I am sorry guys it's just pathetic and I am having a hard time understanding you...



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If Shepard knew of a way to escape from the Reapers at that time, he damn well should have suggested using it. Fighting a war of extermination you have no clue how to win is idiotic if you have any other options available.

As lame as Shepard's speech in the actual game is, it's forgivable because at the time he doesn't actually know of any way either to beat the Reapers or to flee from them
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Trying too hard, OP. You were asking about logic of people who left Milky Way, not about demigod with dreadnought class plot-armor.


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      I gotta say I'm actually kinda disappointed your reactions,you never agreed with Shepard?


  Defense Committee;  there must be someway?

  Shepard; if we're gonna have any chance at survivng this WE HAVE TO STAND TOGETHER!

  Defense Committee ;thats it? thats our plan?

  Defense Committee; what do we do?

  Shepard; the only thing we can; WE FIGHT OR WE DIE!


        so if you were Shepard you would say; (quotes from your posts)

 

 

  Defense Committee; what do we do?

  Shepard; 'let's get the hell outta here'

  Defense Committee; what about rest of us? what about trillions of lifes left behind?

  Shepard; who cares! new galaxy is waiting for us,new locations,exploration,adventure huraaaaa!!! this is this bravest thing to do!!! lets save our own neck yeaaa!!

  this is for the greater good ..go go...

    I am sorry guys it's just pathetic and I am having a hard time understanding you...

 

Well, what about those trillions of lives? Unless there's a clear plan with the promise of saving even a percentage of them, they're as good as dead. 

 

I don't see the difference between this and the protheans attempting to sleep through the invasion in stasis pods. Survival is paramount.



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Shep is hardly the brightest tool in the box at times, rolling out one of his derpiest  lines 'we fight or we die' is very much evidence why they wouldn't let someone with such a poor grasp of nuance of wider issues in on any contingency plan.



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Shep is hardly the brightest tool in the box at times, rolling out one of his derpiest  lines 'we fight or we die' is very much evidence why they wouldn't let someone with such a poor grasp of nuance of wider issues in on any contingency plan.

 

Assuming that there really was a contingency plan, but I don't see what the difference is here, since Shepard is already privy to info from both the earth resistance and the Crucible construction effort. 



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      I gotta say I'm actually kinda disappointed your reactions,you never agreed with Shepard?


  Defense Committee;  there must be someway?

  Shepard; if we're gonna have any chance at survivng this WE HAVE TO STAND TOGETHER!

  Defense Committee ;thats it? thats our plan?

  Defense Committee; what do we do?

  Shepard; the only thing we can; WE FIGHT OR WE DIE!


        so if you were Shepard you would say; (quotes from your posts)

 

 

  Defense Committee; what do we do?

  Shepard; 'let's get the hell outta here'

  Defense Committee; what about rest of us? what about trillions of lifes left behind?

  Shepard; who cares! new galaxy is waiting for us,new locations,exploration,adventure huraaaaa!!! this is this bravest thing to do!!! lets save our own neck yeaaa!!

  this is for the greater good ..go go...

    I am sorry guys it's just pathetic and I am having a hard time understanding you...

 

Travelling to Andromeda to start over would be back-up-plan. It's good to have plan B when you are facing unbeatable enemy.


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They live to fight Another day.

There is nothing chicken about surviving and taking big risks to do so for the survival of a species. It's not like those people would have made a difference, there were trillions of people in the Milkyway who were already busy dying.

Worse would be the Salarians who held back, hiding while the others were dying. Unless they get their reputation salvaged in ME:A.

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Trying too hard, OP. You were asking about logic of people who left Milky Way, not about demigod with dreadnought class plot-armor.

 

    

     you clearly missed my point,I was not asking logic of people who left milkway,I was talking about; how come these semigods with dreadnought class plot-armor who run from milkway can be our new heroes.

 

 

If Shepard knew of a way to escape from the Reapers at that time, he damn well should have suggested using it. Fighting a war of extermination you have no clue how to win is idiotic if you have any other options available.

 

    this is not shepard I remember,

 

   I remember this;

 

 

   Shepard; They think we're helpless. They're wrong. They started a war, but we're not here to finish it. We're here to make them regret -- to show them and everyone else what happens when you go too far. NO MORE RUNNING, no more waiting. Let's hit them where they live.

 



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     you clearly missed my point,I was not asking logic of people who left milkway,I was talking about; how come these semigods with dreadnought class plot-armor who run from milkway can be our new heroes.

 

You've already got the answer for this from Atreiya. What else bothers you?



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     you clearly missed my point,I was not asking logic of people who left milkway,I was talking about; how come these semigods with dreadnought class plot-armor who run from milkway can be our new heroes.

 

Sort of like when the human noble in DA:O flees Highever instead of fighting Howe's men to the death to try to avenge them. 



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I just wish they don't actually use the name Ark anywhere, Transformers' space ship was called that and it's a kinda big fandom. We need names that make people think of MEA. Normandy was a fine example imo. Maybe it would be better if the new name wasn't human culture reference at all. Wouldn't reference on a tv show little asaris used to watch about sapient hippie robots that landed on Thessia or something be more likely? :rolleyes:

 

I maybe wouldn't prefer a premise about an escape from OT war. Not that I'd consider it to be horrible or anything, but some complex curiosity like what people on earth irl feel with their space exploration would sound credible enough for me. Anyway I can live with anything as long as my character won't orchestrate the parts I don't like. It's always cool in games as long as your character can approve and disapprove things (with or without making it a paragon/renegade issue).



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I just wish they don't actually use the name Ark anywhere, Transformers' space ship was called that and it's a kinda big fandom.

Transformers are the last thing I associate Ark with. ME was always full of biblical references and it's just another case.

 

We need names that make people think of MEA. Normandy was a fine example imo.

Ark most likely won't play role of player's ship, seems more like hub station for invasion forces like Citadel.

 

Maybe it would be better if the new name wasn't human culture reference at all.

True that.



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Shepard's comments to the defense committee should only be used as an example of idiocy, not bravery. But OK, terrible presentation aside, sure, Shepard is a heroic figure.

But they made it abundantly clear that sheer manpower is useless against the reapers. Any sane civilization with any sense of self preservation and faced with almost certain annihilation unless their Messiah pulls through for them would be not just smart, but morally compelled to create some contingency plans. Think Ilos, but smarter and with less failure.

The way you've got it in your head is like our heroes saw reapers on the battlefield and turned and ran away. That also seems a bit dumb. One cannot simply flee in fear all the way to another galaxy. A project on this scale obviously requires significant planning, and dedication considering that it's a permanent one way trip. And I suspect it was likely done with full support of the leaders of any respective species aboard the ship.
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Sort of like when the human noble in DA:O flees Highever instead of fighting Howe's men to the death to try to avenge them. 

 

 

    human noble's reason was totally different,he/she joined to Duncan for the war against the greater 'Blight' threat with the rest of the world.so human noble ignored even her/his family's murderers for the real threat! and now we are talking about the fleeing another galaxy for our own neck and you say they're both the same thing?!