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#51
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So while all are fighting to the death hoping that the Crucible thing they built, which they don't even know what they do, does something that it just might save them; we get on a ship to go to a new galaxy and start anew.

 

Finally we'd be playing characters not hit with the stupid stick! Woohoo!


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Shepard's comments to the defense committee should only be used as an example of idiocy, not bravery. But OK, terrible presentation aside, sure, Shepard is a heroic figure.

But they made it abundantly clear that sheer manpower is useless against the reapers. Any sane civilization with any sense of self preservation and faced with almost certain annihilation unless their Messiah pulls through for them would be not just smart, but morally compelled to create some contingency plans. Think Ilos, but smarter and with less failure.

The way you've got it in your head is like our heroes saw reapers on the battlefield and turned and ran away. That also seems a bit dumb. One cannot simply flee in fear all the way to another galaxy. A project on this scale obviously requires significant planning, and dedication considering that it's a permanent one way trip. And I suspect it was likely done with full support of the leaders of any respective species aboard the ship.

 

Always think of Ripley in Aliens during defense committee segment(this isn't about strategy or tactics) & her pithy 'Did IQ's suddenly drop while i was away' line.

 

 

A luckier Ilos i would call it but yeah if they go for ark theory it would make complete sense to keep such preparation & planning deeply secret, excluding someone like shep who is on frontline in danger of capture/indoctrination.


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An ambivalent shrug, then I'll get on and play the game on its own merits.



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    human noble's reason was totally different,he/she joined to Duncan for the war against the greater 'Blight' threat with the rest of the world.so human noble ignored even her/his family's murderers for the real threat! and now we are talking about the fleeing another galaxy for our own neck and you say they're both the same thing?!

 

Actually, you can refuse Duncan and favor vengeance. Heck you can even tell Alistair that Duncan got what he deserved lol.

 

As for the second point there, why's this whole exodus for survival thing so bad anyway? I guess it seems great for fiction that everyone simply band together and die in a single pile, but that's not always the best idea. 



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People are getting too obsessed being this perfect Mary Sue who can do no wrong. I understand that people want power fantasy, but not every protagonist has to be this perfect superhero who can do no wrong.


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At this point I'd say 8/10 possible turns for this game will make me shake my head or laugh in inappropriate response at how far we've come with this franchise (as in far out)

 

 

People are getting too obsessed being this perfect Mary Sue who can do no wrong. I understand that people want power fantasy, but not every protagonist has to be this perfect superhero who can do no wrong.

 

Couldn't agree more. I'm sick of the whole "The player has to be the strongest character in the cast". **** no. There's no victory without stakes and no likeable character who doesn't have flaws. A character who does everything right is like Mickey Mouse and nobody cares about him. We all like find Donald and Goofy way more charismatic because they have flaws.



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OP watches a nature documentary with a zebra being chased by lions...

 

"Quit running you coward! Stand and fight!"


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People are getting too obsessed being this perfect Mary Sue who can do no wrong. I understand that people want power fantasy, but not every protagonist has to be this perfect superhero who can do no wrong.

 

Exactly.

 

I greatly prefer flawed characters to goodie-good types.

 

I'd love a "cowardly" protagonist.  Maybe we'll get to pick our background and reason for joining the Ark.



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My reaction?

 

Don't know. Ask me after the game is released and find out they did leave the Milky Way because they were cowards



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what will be your reaction; if the ark theory is true and our new heroes will be the cowards who runaway from milkway

like chickens, while everybody was fighting till the last drop of blood.

1. It doesn't seem like cowardice to me.

2. The presence (or absence) of the ark won't determine whether the story will be fun or not. I will judge the game on its own merits.

3. I will, however, be encouraged if they leave all of the ME1-3 story in the past.

I would like to see them leave behind all traces of:
Shepard
His/her companions
The reapers
Cerebus
Star child
The three different endings.

New game, new story, new protagonist, new antagonists, new Galaxy.

Stop trying to shoehorn in callbacks.

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I'd love to play smart, charismatic but lazy and cowardly type like Ciaphas Cain. :D

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Startrek Voyager wasn't too popular with some I guess?



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"He who fights and runs away will live to fight another day; but he who is in battle slain will never rise to fight again"

 

Given the opportunity to, possibly, save a species in the midst of a galactic war by taking those not soldiers to a, hopefully, more secure future?  Hell, yeah, I'll take it.  To those people, those saved, they'd be called heroes.


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I gotta say I'm actually kinda disappointed your reactions,you never agreed with Shepard?


Defense Committee; there must be someway?

Shepard; if we're gonna have any chance at survivng this WE HAVE TO STAND TOGETHER!

Defense Committee ;thats it? thats our plan?

Defense Committee; what do we do?

Shepard; the only thing we can; WE FIGHT OR WE DIE!


so if you were Shepard you would say; (quotes from your posts)


Defense Committee; what do we do?

Shepard; 'let's get the hell outta here'

Defense Committee; what about rest of us? what about trillions of lifes left behind?

Shepard; who cares! new galaxy is waiting for us,new locations,exploration,adventure huraaaaa!!! this is this bravest thing to do!!! lets save our own neck yeaaa!!
this is for the greater good ..go go...

I am sorry guys it's just pathetic and I am having a hard time understanding you...


Fighting a war of that magnitude without some sort of contingency plan, should your primary strategy fail - is quite frankly pretty dumb.

It's not even about what is brave and what isn't. It's just common sense.
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Milky Way or Andromeda, I do not care. As long as we have another Mass Effect game!  I've let go of the fact that Shepard would not be in ME:A, and that we will be in another galaxy a long, long, looong, time ago.



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OP watches a nature documentary with a zebra being chased by lions...

 

"Quit running you coward! Stand and fight!"

 

 

   ME:A protagonist will be zebra..nice...


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This will be my reaction, after people who called the Andromeda setting way back when were called idiots...

 

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    this is not shepard I remember,
 
   I remember this;
 
 
   Shepard; They think we're helpless. They're wrong. They started a war, but we're not here to finish it. We're here to make them regret -- to show them and everyone else what happens when you go too far. NO MORE RUNNING, no more waiting. Let's hit them where they live.


You're saying you want Shepard to be a fool who would reject a chance at survival for the organic races if he had one? It's OK to throw your own life away in battle, but your whole species? That's not only stupid, it's evil.

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Always think of Ripley in Aliens during defense committee segment(this isn't about strategy or tactics) & her pithy 'Did IQ's suddenly drop while i was away' line.
 


Anyone have a better line for Shepard there? It's not like she's actually got a plan.
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      I gotta say I'm actually kinda disappointed your reactions,you never agreed with Shepard?


  Defense Committee;  there must be someway?

  Shepard; if we're gonna have any chance at survivng this WE HAVE TO STAND TOGETHER!

  Defense Committee ;thats it? thats our plan?

  Defense Committee; what do we do?

  Shepard; the only thing we can; WE FIGHT OR WE DIE!


        so if you were Shepard you would say; (quotes from your posts)

 

 

  Defense Committee; what do we do?

  Shepard; 'let's get the hell outta here'

  Defense Committee; what about rest of us? what about trillions of lifes left behind?

  Shepard; who cares! new galaxy is waiting for us,new locations,exploration,adventure huraaaaa!!! this is this bravest thing to do!!! lets save our own neck yeaaa!!

  this is for the greater good ..go go...

    I am sorry guys it's just pathetic and I am having a hard time understanding you...

 

 

Ask the souls of a trillion dead if honor matters. Their silence is your answer.


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Anyone have a better line for Shepard there? It's not like she's actually got a plan.


That just illustrates the stupidity of the question. You'd figure even if Earth isn't prepared for space Eldrich abominations, they'd have defence plans for the ground invasion of Earth by a numerically superior force. That's presumably the plan.

The whole scene doesn't really make sense. The line is just symptom of it, and honestly it reads to me like the kind of line written from the start to be included in a trailer.

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That just illustrates the stupidity of the question. You'd figure even if Earth isn't prepared for space Eldrich abominations, they'd have defence plans for the ground invasion of Earth by a numerically superior force. That's presumably the plan.
The whole scene doesn't really make sense. The line is just symptom of it, and honestly it reads to me like the kind of line written from the start to be included in a trailer.


Yeah the whole set up is bad, that line the worst of it, as you say probably meant to show shep being punchy and dramatic in a trailer but it's crineworthily stupid from a military officer.

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Sort of like when the human noble in DA:O flees Highever instead of fighting Howe's men to the death to try to avenge them. 

To be fair, you can play that Warden as someone who hates themselves and Duncan for it.



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Travelling to Andromeda to start over would be back-up-plan. It's good to have plan B when you are facing unbeatable enemy.

The reapers where never unbeatable.