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[Dieb]

Please point out on this doll exactly where the liberal agenda touched you.

 

[rapscallioness]

[BansheeOwnage]

I guess half is a bit too high. According to the twitter below, I would said 1/4 to 1/3 is a safe bet. I agree the ratio of female players has increased and is increasing, obiviously.

 

https://twitter.com/...816732427055107

My ratio was for people on this forum (people I would consider more enthusiastic), and it was a guess. I will point out that that stat isn't 100% accurate of course, but I can't say whether the inaccuracies will favour one side or the other.

[Aren]

 

 

I ask Bioware to close the franchise with style. Go back to the first game, it's combat mechanics and maps. Don't try that hard to appeal SJWs, that strategy failed for everybody else, just like it failed for you. Don't try to take the attention of CoDers too. Make a game for Gamers, that are the ones that gave this franchise popularity in the first place. So no more pushing liberal propaganda, build story, setting and characters as they are people of Thedas, not projections of people living these days with modern day ideologies. And FFS make sexuality and romance options secondary. Again, female adolescent gamers aren't those who pay, at the end of the day.

Bioware will listen and will overcompensate,so no more pushing liberal propaganda for the next installment of the franchise.

I already imagine our next protagonist....

[BansheeOwnage]

Ten dollars might be just fine for you, but it doesn't mean it would cover all expenses that went into the development of the dlc. EA has to cover that and then make a profit beyond it. So the fact you think it's only worth ten bucks doesn't mean that price will even cover cost.

And you saying that doesn't mean it's true, either. We'll never know if selling them for $10 would have covered the cost or not, so it's a moot point, really. Besides, even if $10 wouldn't cover the costs, it still wouldn't be worth $15 to me. Sometimes things just suck, no matter how much money you put into them. Look at Destiny and its $500000000 budget. Yes, five-hundred-million. And I'm not even saying JoH sucks, just that having a high production cost doesn't increase the value of something, only the cost.

 

I don't honestly know if game development is getting more expensive, but most DLCs used to be $10, just like games used to be $60 and now the same game is $70 for new consoles. Which is entirely stupid... it's the same game. Anyway, slightly incoherent rant done.

[Aren]

Best launch BY FAR in Biowares history.

DAI is BY FAR

best lunch in Bioware's History

[Andreas Amell]

Nope. According to Bioware, Inquisition has been its most successful launch so far. Its digital download sales were the most significant, indicating a change in platform consumers. 

 

And I like how contemporary this game is. 

[elrofrost]

I think DAI had a great launch. But the real question is it's "staying power". Skyrim, for example moved most of it's sales after launch. Last i looked, Slyrim was STILL in the top 20 on Steam. But that's not really because of the game, but  mods. And I can only speak for the PC market, which is about 1/5 of the over-all sales of a cross-platform game (excpet for Batman, as example- but slow pc's sales for that title is due to a terrible port).

 

I don't think we'll ever know the numbers.

 

As for the DLC's, I think BW is doing excatly what I'd do: please (milk) the players you have now. Now is not the time to make sweeping changes. You do that in DA4, if there is  a DA4.

 

PS: I see EA struggling to find two things: EA's own WOW and EA's Skyrim. Both have eluded the company so far. I mean, I can't remember the last huge hit from EA? I think whats keeping the company alive are it's various sports licenses. DAI was a huge launch, but it's pretty much forgotten by everyone except a few die-hard DA fans (like us). If it was a mega hit, EA would be screaming it's name from the top of it's HQ. And every DLC would be a full-court event. But it's not. And a mega-hit for EA isn't 1 million sales. It's 10+ million sales.

 

I think this year, the big games to beat are Skyline, Witcher 3 and probably Fallout 4.

[wolfhowwl]

Position on the NPD is relative to what else is coming out. DA:I's first month US physical console sales (<600k) weren't enough to chart in November but could easily be around the top in a slow month. 

 

Also Far Cry and Assassin's Creed are sequels to games that likely have outsold the entire DA franchise.

[Andreas Amell]

A most successful launch that never made the NPD list. Even games like AC Unity and Far Cry 4 did that at the time. A strange area.. successful launch, but not even comparable to crappy sequel titles. Then someone might say, "It's an RPG. They don't sell well". But Witcher 3 made this list when it came out. Lets not even mention Skyrim...which has a ton of sales.

 

I don't necessarily like this though. Don't get me wrong. If only because I'd like to see Bioware make many more games.

That just means the Dragon Age franchise has its niche. I don't play any of the games on NPD's list. 

[duckley]

Liberal propaganda? Say what?

[giveamanafish...]

A most successful launch that never made the NPD list. Even games like AC Unity and Far Cry 4 did that at the time. A strange area.. successful launch, but not even comparable to crappy sequel titles. Then someone might say, "It's an RPG. They don't sell well". But Witcher 3 made this list when it came out. Lets not even mention Skyrim...which has a ton of sales.

 

I don't necessarily like this though. Don't get me wrong. If only because I'd like to see Bioware make many more games.

The Npd figures were for physical sales only,  (the general trend has definitely been to increased digital sales and a bioware staffer has stated that digital sales were a positive suprise for them). Also I believe DAI was actually just off the chart at 11  --- which is like 10 but with a extra 1.

 

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The actual quote from EA in early 2015 was that DAI was the best launch in Bioware's history in terms of units sold.  Someone  (Not me) in the rpgcodex forum made this comment before that quarterly report was released:  (.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/was-dragon-age-inquisition-a-commercial-failure.96304/page-6)

 

"Tune into their earnings release on January 27th. If they completely ignore mentioning them then it's a dis tater. If they mention out of context sales growth, then it was Meh. If they compare it to previous games or rival games then it's a success. If they release sales it did better than skyrim probably."

 

So around meh and succcess if I understand this guy.

 

 

 

Liberal propaganda? Say what?

Well Adam Smith is considered to be one of the first liberals in the economics field and since that time, actual economists (I'm not really one anymore) have gone crazy whenever they get a chance to point out a situation where a well-intentioned policy will lead to unintended consequences with negative impacts on the intended purpose of the policy. In DAI there is a reference by Krem to the Tevinter magister who tries to better the lot of slaves by producing cheap clothing, with the unintended consequence of putting Krem's father, a cloths-maker out of business. Probably that.

 

Or maybe they're upset Krem and Dorian are portrayed as being like human beings.

[pdusen]

Yes, DA:I sold so poorly that EA stopped supporting it by canceling Shadow Realms and putting that studio to work on DLC for DA:I instead.

Such a failure.

[Andreas Amell]

Yes, DA:I sold so poorly that EA stopped supporting it by canceling Shadow Realms and putting that studio to work on DLC for DA:I instead.

Such a failure.

Not according to this article. 

 

http://www.vg247.com...a-lot-of-sense/

[Jaron Oberyn]

DAI combat was superior to the previous two games.

[Andreas Amell]

That's fair. I don't play a lot of them either. I think just things might be overstated.. and phrases like "best launch" are too vague to mean much. Who is that even for?

Who knows? There are so many games out there who do these magazines and fanzines represent anymore? I learrned in a class that Indonesians don't use Facebook to socialize. They use it for the online games it offers. That's a whole market that console game produces don't tap into because they don't make that content.

[correctamundo]

 

 

 

 

I liked the all caps. BY FAR.

 

 

That might be the case though. I just prefer numbers. And if it's so great, they should probably brag more. 

 

Or maybe I should start believing infomercials too, when they emphasize the success of their awesome products like this.

 

 

The by far part is regularly ignored by people who desperately needs a financial failure for DAI.

 

I will give you the full qote from Blake Jorgensen - "This extraordinary performance was led by FIFA 15, Madden NFL 15, and Dragon Age: Inquisition. In particular, Dragon Age: Inquisition had by far the most successful launch in BioWare's history, exceeding our expectations."

[BobZilla84]

I think EA is quite content with Dragon Age Inquistion so there will no doubt be a DA4 just my opinion at least.

[Xetykins]

I think EA is quite content with Dragon Age Inquistion so there will no doubt be a DA4 just my opinion at least.

I hope so. And I hope they listen to feedback without overcompensating. It's becoming like a giant pendulum.

[Lady Ishtar]

DAI combat was superior to the previous two games.

Which is the whole reason game sux, the franchise is broken beyond salvation and I hope they quit making DA games. Forever.

If combat does not make people sleep out of boringness it is not RPG, it is action, and should be killed before laying eggs.

[pdusen]

Not according to this article.

http://www.vg247.com...a-lot-of-sense/

First of all, that's an opinion piece written by some journalist with no stated sources. It's completely speculative.

Second, even if the author is correct, that article doesn't really dispute my point, which was that EA assigned originally unplanned resources to DAI because it beat their expectations.

[Elhanan]

Best launch means hype and pre orders. One month later nobody cared about Inquisition anymore. No forum was talking about Inquisition except by Elhanan and his multiple accounts to pretend someone liked the game. So yes, it sold great because fake videos made us buy, once people knew where they were stepping in game just vanished from history. THANKFULLY.
10 years from now people will look back and say: "So THAT was the game i was forgetting about... jesus, why did Bioware even develop that piece of ****?"
Happily most people already realized how awful this game is. I was away for a couple of months and I'm very happy to see that a lot of people who liked the game now are criticizing it. Aside from Elhanan and the katy perry with green hair avatar most people already broke free from The Great Infinite Tsukuyomi of Denial.

And yet: GOTY 2014! Facts > invalid opinions. Welcome back!