Not being defensive,but there's less than 100 beta testers,so strategies among friends was pretty much the only way to TEST NM and especially HB to the finish.So it was really more of a help than an exploit.
Its an exploit 
Well played my crew did HB with 30/30/30 stats 
You don't get it do you? LOLSo will they get banned for using an exploit?
Not being defensive,but there's less than 100 beta testers,so strategies among friends was pretty much the only way to TEST NM and especially HB to the finish.So it was really more of a help than an exploit.
Yeah, I understand doing workarounds in beta to get a feel for the true difficulty of the various difficulty levels, and more importantly, to find actual bugs in the implementation. That said, If I were running the test procedures, I would do it quite differently though, with each beta tester given a broader set of characters at varying stages of advancement and load outs, so they could indeed play 'legitimately' within certain predefined parameters and get the feedback from those unadulterated attempts.
Of course, how many beta testers you have, their mutually overlapping periods of availability, skill levels and the ability for them to follow actual test procedures (when the devs actually provide such guidance) often makes for quite a bit of variance between optimal testing, and getting whatever you can manage to get out of them. Been there, done that, and I have nothing but respect for those who do volunteer for the task.
Or, in the words of the inimitable Dread Pirate Roberts, "please understand that I hold you in the highest respect."
You need to be a little specific here, there's been changes to enemies abilities in hb following the last update. The latest hb is far too daunting for about 95% of the player base of damp, and frankly I don't know why devs introduced it if it only caters to the 5% of the hardcore uber highly promoted players yet ironically, these are the same players who will hardly touch hb but would rather spend most of their time arduously farming perilous/nm due to so called 'xp efficiency' and payout.Its an exploit
I'm at 80/100/100 and I'll play level 20's if I'm with a good group and don't want to leave, I like to enjoy all my passives from time to time. Agreed some people don't really belong on nightmare dying straight away on each zone and not working with the team but it's a game, those few passives can make a huge difference on NM, especially the armour ones.
Another discredit to the leaderboards
Just once or twice on NM when friends are lv18 and I run out of characters NM ready 
I'd rather help than leach a lv1 on NM......plus that bloody 4th Hakkon will not drop for me.
I am still trying to get my head around the OP and a lot of the comments in this thread. My stats are 65/108/70 and I spend most of my time promoting, level 1 in threatening and then to perilous, all with friends (if they are on) or in pugs. I do not regard myself as a good player, maybe medium as my reactions are not what they used to be. However, I am a team player and my play style is towards that.
If, and I mean if I was to enter a nightmare run, I would use a level 20 to be at my most strongest capabilities.
My question is: Would the OP or any of you kick me?
Zan the Man has a Plan
I am still trying to get my head around the OP and a lot of the comments in this thread. My stats are 65/108/70 and I spend most of my time promoting, level 1 in threatening and then to perilous, all with friends (if they are on) or in pugs. I do not regard myself as a good player, maybe medium as my reactions are not what they used to be. However, I am a team player and my play style is towards that.
If, and I mean if I was to enter a nightmare run, I would use a level 20 to be at my most strongest capabilities.
My question is: Would the OP or any of you kick me?
Zan the Man has a Plan
Zan u getting kick promote that 20 and play with an one. I prefer that than an level 20
Just once or twice on NM when friends are lv18 and I run out of characters NM ready
I'd rather help than leach a lv1 on NM......plus that bloody 4th Hakkon will not drop for me.
Man your friends are tough cats that they would not let u play an level 1
This thing about kicking lv20's bothers me a great deal, you don't know if that player has reached their own chosen rank of promotions as not everyone wants 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999+ on their stats, some like to keep it lower and enjoy the challenge. Instead of kicking them as soon as you see them, give them a chance, after all, a player at lv20 does not limit the amount of xp you earn, if they can contribute to the team effort, let them have their fun.
Just my opinion.
Don't be a noob.
Well, I would sure like to, but can you show me how it's done?
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I'm sorry, my bad. I thought you were explaining in the verses of the song we'd break into.
Depends on what matters to you. Of course you can run a 10 with 180/180/180. Don't you think that's a little too easy? A massive amount of promotes isn't necessary to play perilous or nightmare.And if promotions don't matter why can I run it on like lvl 10 not even with an ok group and win? If promoting doesn't matter why with a solid grouo we can pull lvl 1s?
Zan u getting kick promote that 20 and play with an one. I prefer that than an level 20
I am sorry but I do not quite understand what you are saying. Do you mean I should promote the 20 and play another character instead ... say a level 17 or 18?
And if my interpretation is correct, why? Surely my level 20 is more of a help to the team.
Zan the Man has a Plan
I am sorry but I do not quite understand what you are saying. Do you mean I should promote the 20 and play another character instead ... say a level 17 or 18?
And if my interpretation is correct, why? Surely my level 20 is more of a help to the team.
Zan the Man has a Plan
I think he meant that you should promote that lvl 20 and play with that freshly promoted character at lvl 1 ...
I think he meant that you should promote that lvl 20 and play with that freshly promoted character at lvl 1 ...
Hi Dekibra.
But to take a level 1 into nightmare ... surely not. I would not like to leech off others, I have some friends that would help me along, but I would rather be of some use to the team.
Zan the Man has a Plan
Hi Dekibra.
But to take a level 1 into nightmare ... surely not. I would not like to leech off others, I have some friends that would help me along, but I would rather be of some use to the team.
Zan the Man has a Plan
my thinking exactly, I would never do such a thing even if friends say it's ok... but - if my interpretation is correct - sonofbarak seems to be one of the peeps who is totally ok with a lvl 1 on nightmare 
my thinking exactly, I would never do such a thing even if friends say it's ok... but - if my interpretation is correct - sonofbarak seems to be one of the peeps who is totally ok with a lvl 1 on nightmare
Well, if sonofbarak is on pc maybe we can arrange a meet up. I will have 16 level 1 characters that can team up for nightmare. I promise to do my best. 
Zan the Man has a Plan
Well, if sonofbarak is on pc maybe we can arrange a meet up. I will have 16 level 1 characters that can team up for nightmare. I promise to do my best.
Zan the Man has a Plan
I'm in - if he can carry one, he can carry two ^^
Well, if sonofbarak is on pc maybe we can arrange a meet up. I will have 16 level 1 characters that can team up for nightmare. I promise to do my best.
Zan the Man has a Plan
Pretty sure that guy is on PS3.
Hi Dekibra.
But to take a level 1 into nightmare ... surely not. I would not like to leech off others, I have some friends that would help me along, but I would rather be of some use to the team.
Zan the Man has a Plan
Exactly. I would much rather be able to complete it and get a chance at a drop than be carried from door to door and reduce the odds of being able to complete the last boss.
This thing about kicking lv20's bothers me a great deal, you don't know if that player has reached their own chosen rank of promotions as not everyone wants 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999+ on their stats, some like to keep it lower and enjoy the challenge. Instead of kicking them as soon as you see them, give them a chance, after all, a player at lv20 does not limit the amount of xp you earn, if they can contribute to the team effort, let them have their fun.
Just my opinion.
Honestly guys why twist words? OP said level 20 who goes to the fade all the time. If your in the fade all the time what contribution did you make? The idea is play at the level you can make contribution to the team effort. That would be any gaming principle.
I am sorry but I do not quite understand what you are saying. Do you mean I should promote the 20 and play another character instead ... say a level 17 or 18?
And if my interpretation is correct, why? Surely my level 20 is more of a help to the team.
Zan the Man has a Plan
No promote, if u running with me, I got ur back
No promote, if u running with me, I got ur back
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