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I'm still a newbie in a lot of ways, but I've just finished my third playthrough of the whole trilogy, and it was the first time I had also gone through LotSB, Overlord and every possible meetup and party option in the Citadel DLC, etc.

 

And one of the things that I loved this last time, and that really surprised me, was that when I took my time and really went around talking to all the characters and watching their relationships develop, that many of the characters surprised me. I realized that even several characters I hadn't liked initially, I now have a lot of affection for:

 

1. Liara

 

I have never liked Liara -- I found her clingy and slightly creepy in ME, and then in ME2, while I did feel a bit bad for her, she's so cold there that I just shrugged and kept on into ME3. Then in ME3, she's a confusing mix of hot and cold, one minute practically sleeping on Shep's doorstep, the next responding coldly for pretty much the entire second half of the game any time she tries to talk to her. I was also kind of annoyed at Liara because she seemed to love Shep more for what she was (a Prothean beacon connection) than who she was.

 

But weirdly, Lair of the Shadow Broker made her character make sense to me, and I found myself liking Liara for the rest of the playthrough from that point on. Being able to see her home and how much Shep had meant to her made me kind of sad. She seemed lonely and grieving, and it really fleshed out her character to me. It made me see Liara not so much as hot/cold, but as someone who feels things really deeply, but who isn't all that flexible -- one of those people who breaks at a certain point.

 

So to me, the Liara in ME3 is someone who is kind of broken. She's hot and cold to my non-LI femshep because she's almost inarticulate, as smart as she is, and not good at revealing or talking about her feelings. She's aware Shep doesn't return them, so keeps hers reined in for the most part, then she only reveals hers in little intense moments (like the 'name in the stars' and final goodbye scenes). By the end, I truly felt in the last playthrough that I'd misjudged Liara, and that the character did really love Shep (whether or not it was returned).

 

Whenever I do a new ME run, I'll definitely do at least one with Liara as an LI, simply because there's so much potential story development there.

 

2. James

 

I hadn't really been a huge fan of James before, but he's a much richer and more complex character than the meathead he seemed at first. He's funny, generous, accepting (I love his friendship with Cortez), and smarter and more insightful than he seems. Freddie Prinze Jr.'s voice work is also terrific.

 

I also liked (and was very surprised) that James and Ashley flirt heavily at the party, and end up hooking up (or they did in my Citadel choices). 

 

3. Cortez

 

Steve felt a little tacked-on for me in previous playthroughs, but after taking all available dialogue options with him with my femshep this time, I really developed a soft spot for him. He's always incredibly sweet in their talks together, and watching him work through his grief is touching. I also really love that his sexuality is a non-issue, and that he and James are such close friends (and can joke around without awkwardness). 

 

Steve is also the most thoughtful party guest. He's just so quietly happy to be there.

 

4. Javik

 

I was disappointed in Javik at first. I felt like his character was too one-sided, too brutal. He can be a real downer, and his constant negativity kind of bugged me, because I wanted to see some kind of growth from him.

 

Yet in my last playthrough, bringing him with me with Liara especially to any notable Prothean-related story points, and especially after really exploring all the options on the Citadel DLC (running through every possible party permutation and dialogue choice), I eventually felt really sorry for Javik, and began to see that he does change somewhat through ME3.

 

I like that he's actually kind to the strangers at the Citadel, and later on to the asari Lieutenant on Thessia. He's also kinder than he needs to be to Liara after Thessia as well, and his dry humor and growing support for Shepard are a lot of fun. Then in the Citadel DLC, I really felt sorry for him, as he's actually basking in all the company and fun and even gets drunk the fastest in the 'quiet' party (knowing his civilization was dust, I'm just surprised he didn't do it sooner). He even manages to bluff the poker table about a Prothean 'Hunger Games' scenario (which made me wonder how much of the other stories he tells are actually supposed to be funny).

 

And Javik the next day (after the loud party) is really sad. He's just passed out on the bathroom floor, so grateful that waking up stranded was a dream, then he realizes, nope, he's still stuck here with all the primitives. (Although intriguingly, it does seem like his annoyance with Liara is also masking a possible crush here, as he talks about "those eyes...")

 

5. EDI

 

I always liked EDI, but I was disappointed that she became the EDI-bot in ME3, because there was so much more potential and poignance to her relationship with Joker if she were simply an AI with no form. When she saved and comforted Joker, calling him "Jeff" for the first time in ME2, I was really moved.

 

So I wasn't thrilled with EDI in 3, but this was one of those rare cases where for me, the voice acting just took the character over the top for me. Tricia Helfer imbues EDI with so much quiet intelligence and vulnerability that I end up really caring about EDI, and her discussion with Shep about self-determination and choice is one of the best-written moments in the series for me.  Despite the sexbot body (I hate the character design, although I love her face), EDI has a really interesting evolution.

 

This was also the first playthrough where I knew from moment 1 that I was going to pick "Destroy," so that added extra sadness to my perception of EDI -- I already knew her days were numbered.

 

6. Extra Relationship Building Around the Edges

 

This was the first playthrough where I caught Gabby and Ken falling for each other (which was adorable). I'd caught Tali and Garrus before, but this time I realized there are a ton of conversions you can catch between the two of them as they become closer, and the Garrus character development especially is wonderful (I love that he apologizes for his ME1 behavior).

 

As I mentioned, I also got a kick out of James's friendship with Cortez, loved the way he would tease Javik, and thought his getting together with Ashley was pretty cute and believable.

 

Anyway... the latest playthrough taught me how worth it is to really go around and listen to everyone (and talk to everyone) on a constant basis. There's so much you miss if you don't.

 

I wasn't thrilled about everything in ME3 (I hated the handling of Thane as LI, Legion, and the ending), but repeating and varying the content has definitely caused me to love almost everyone, and to appreciate a lot of the richness possible for discovery in the story.

 

What's cool is that this is the first game I've ever played where the characters stayed with me to this extent. I love these characters the way I love my favorites in novels and movies. They become people we really care about, and I find that amazing and wonderful.

 

What characters surprised you by winning you over, or changing your opinion on them in different playthroughs?


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Jarvik is one of the best.  He's anti-PC.  He's a real warrior.

 

In many ways his approach is how WW2 was fought vs. how wars today are fought.  In WW2 we bombed that church if the enemy was in there.  Citizens were fair game for helping the enemy.  He knows that sacrifice is necessary to win and this cycle better realize that or face defeat.

 

Cortez is the anti-Jarvik.  How can such a baby be in the military.  You lost someone so get over it and fight for their memory.  He is a risk to the mission as you never know when he'll breakdown.  his death in the end is the redeeming factor.

 

I don't have the Citadel DLC so can't comment on it.


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Positively?

Definitely James. I expected him to be a pure exposition device for new players but the writers also used "the new guy" to emphasize how much histiry connected the rest of the team. That was well done and also, his straight forward character makes him likable. One of the positives for me definitely.

Dr. Michelle: Honestly, I did not expect to see her again at all in ME3. Imagine my surprise when I found out that we could even recruit her. I almost always choose Chakwas but still, the fact that the possibility exists is nice.

 

Negatives:

Mordin and Legion in ME3 because of how their characters changed all of a sudden.

EDI: Didn't see the whole body thing coming and thought she was more interesting as "being the ship" without all the done-to-death Pinocchio cliches.

TIM and Udina. Didn't expect both characters to get shoved down the evil drain through indoctrination

Kai Leng: After reading Retribution I did not expect this. At all.


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I'm also still quite new to the franchise and for me, the most obvious changes I went through were Liara, Javik and James.

 

It's funny because for me it was the other way around with Liara. First time playing I really liked her a lot, but the more often I saw her and talked to her, the more she annoyed me a bit. I do still like her and my Shepards do as well (so far at least ;)), but she just feels so... yeah, like you said, clingy and creepy, at least in the beginning. And keeping Shepards armor? Weird. But then she has these absolute sweet moments, too. It's kinda strange, it's almost love-hate with her, but that's a bit too strong, rather like-dislike, haha.

 

I first played ME3 without any DLCs, only bought Javik after that and then of course I never saw much of him. On my second playthrough I thought he was a bit of an a**hole, and I didn't understand how people could like him that much. Now I do :D This guy's been through so much, brought up in war times, being the only one of your species left. That's so harsh. On my current run my Shepard actually shares a lot of views with Javik, so they get along really well, and she takes him (and James) pretty much everywhere. Javik also has his sweet moments and he can show pity (James and him during Grissom Academy with Jack dead was one of the best surprises, I loved it!), and I've really grown fond of this trollean now.

 

And James, well first time I thought he was sassy and a bit weird, but he kinda had me after "Loco" ;) I've liked him since then, but since a few months it has turned into an unhealthy obsession. I'm currently playing FemShep for the first time and I love their flirting. I love them in combat together, I love how they act around each other. How James is respectful in one moment and in the next he's joking again.

James is exactly as you say, "meathead" on the outside, but there's so much more to him once you dig deeper. I watched Paragon Lost a while ago and read the comics, and it made me appreciate James even more. Freddie Prinze Jr. also brings so much to this character, he's so incredibly good.

I just fell in love with this guy completely. It's so bad that I try to record most of his dialogue currently, because there's just not enough James love around the web :lol:

His friendship with Cortez is also really great, I love listening to these two, always makes me smile.

 

Btw I so agree with you on EDI's voice, it's so good!

And who I also warmed up a biiiit more to recently are Ashley and Miranda. Couldn't stand those two at first, but they're ok :)


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Negatives:

Mording and Legion in ME3 because of how their characters changed all of a sudden.

 

 

Changed how?  You mean their deaths?  How did Mordin change?  He was the goofy lovable scientist that he was in ME2.  Legion changed in that all Geth changed.  They were no longer a collective but individuals.  But maybe you can explain what you meant by them changing.



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 Javik also has his sweet moments and he can show pity (James and him during Grissom Academy with Jack dead was one of the best surprises, I loved it!), and I've really grown fond of this trollean now.

 

 

Can you explain this a little further.  Are you saying Jack can die there or are you saying how they react if Jack died in ME2?



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Harbinger. Too bad he didn't have a bigger role in ME3


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Can you explain this a little further.  Are you saying Jack can die there or are you saying how they react if Jack died in ME2?

 

Jack was dead from my ME2 playthrough, and the students struggle a lot more without Jack. Rodriguez asks Shepard about the first kill, as she had hers today. Both James's and Javik's answers there are great imo. (James says "Brings back memories. Bad ones.", and Javik says "Better they learn early.", but his voice is a lot softer there than usual)


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This is just ME3, right?

 

 

Cortez and EDI, the most. Not a fan of the fembot thing in principle and missed Legion, but her pinnochio thing was charming. Cortez.. To be honest, gay companions aren't something I necessarily call for or think of having, but really ended up feeling bad for the guy. And he seemed even more lonely than my Shep (who was paired with Jack, who was missing for a bit). Him and Traynor both are also about the only connections I have to the ME2 story. "Fight for the lost". They're kind of a small addition to that.


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Just ME3?

 

Definitely EDI,James and Javik.


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Cortez is the anti-Jarvik.  How can such a baby be in the military.  You lost someone so get over it and fight for their memory.  He is a risk to the mission as you never know when he'll breakdown.  his death in the end is the redeeming factor.

What about Liara?

 

When on Ilos she wants to stay and study archives instead of stopping Saren. In the broker dlc she cries like a little baby after the broker is killed. Is she going to cry every time an enemy is killed? In ME3 on Mars she has doubts about defeating the reapers. On the shuttle going to Thessia she says she can't be that callous against her own people. She is a liability that puts the squad at risk. Her death on the beam run is the redeeming factor


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The one character that I really changed views on was Miranda. At first I did not like her. Over time, however, I came to use her on more and more missions because her skill set was undeniable one of the best. Eventually I came to develop a lot of respect for her.


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As for Liara as least I get to cheat on her and she always takes me back.  But her death in the beam is justified.  And at least she was smart enough to stay away from the collector run.  I have a hunch she would not have made it.



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Do you keep EMS low on purpose just to get her killed?



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Dr. Michelle: Honestly, I did not expect to see her again at all in ME3. Imagine my surprise when I found out that we could even recruit her. I almost always choose Chakwas but still, the fact that the possibility exists is nice.

 

Negatives:

Mording and Legion in ME3 because of how their characters changed all of a sudden.

EDI: Didn't see the whole body thing coming and thought she was more interesting as "being the ship" without all the done-to-death Pinocchio cliches.

TIM and Udina. Didn't expect both characters to get shoved down the evil drain through indoctrination

Kai Leng: After reading Retribution I did not expect this. At all.

 

I haven't done a playthrough with Dr. Michelle! I'm totally going to do that next time. I keep forgetting that's an option in ME3.

 

I agree with you on TIM -- he was a much more interesting and morally gray character (versus pitch black) in ME2, as was Cerberus. The TIM of ME3, to me, would never have let a resurrected Shep be who she/he really was, he would have used the control chip to ensure that she fell in line. And I was very unhappy at the casual reveals of Legion's decisions and deceptions.

 

I first played ME3 without any DLCs, only bought Javik after that and then of course I never saw much of him. On my second playthrough I thought he was a bit of an a**hole, and I didn't understand how people could like him that much. Now I do :D This guy's been through so much, brought up in war times, being the only one of your species left. That's so harsh. On my current run my Shepard actually shares a lot of views with Javik, so they get along really well, and she takes him (and James) pretty much everywhere. Javik also has his sweet moments and he can show pity (James and him during Grissom Academy with Jack dead was one of the best surprises, I loved it!), and I've really grown fond of this trollean now.

 

And James, well first time I thought he was sassy and a bit weird, but he kinda had me after "Loco" ;) I've liked him since then, but since a few months it has turned into an unhealthy obsession. I'm currently playing FemShep for the first time and I love their flirting. I love them in combat together, I love how they act around each other. How James is respectful in one moment and in the next he's joking again.

James is exactly as you say, "meathead" on the outside, but there's so much more to him once you dig deeper. I watched Paragon Lost a while ago and read the comics, and it made me appreciate James even more. Freddie Prinze Jr. also brings so much to this character, he's so incredibly good.

I just fell in love with this guy completely. It's so bad that I try to record most of his dialogue currently, because there's just not enough James love around the web :lol:

His friendship with Cortez is also really great, I love listening to these two, always makes me smile.

 

Btw I so agree with you on EDI's voice, it's so good!

And who I also warmed up a biiiit more to recently are Ashley and Miranda. Couldn't stand those two at first, but they're ok :)

 

The little softer, kinder moments with Javik are few and far between, but they're so important to his character for me, and really mitigate the harshness of who he first seemed to be. His story is incredibly tragic when you look at it (and the Citadel DLC just made me feel so bad for the guy, both because he's so drunk and funny, and also because the morning after he's just so damn sad. Same for the scene with the memory shard, when he gives that speech about not remembering (but not feeling the pain either) yet Shep's paragon response is able to get him to try just for a moment to remember who he was and what he lost.

 

I have totally become a fan of James, and he's someone I started bringing on missions (like Thane and Kasumi for me in ME2) even when he wasn't a good tactical fit, just to hear what he was going to say about the situation.

 

I think James is a great example of how players can be rewarded with attention to detail and if they look more closely. From far away, James is just a big blocky lunk of a guy. But when you view his face in closeup, he's got scars all over the place -- the guy has obviously been through his share of stuff. And then it's the same when talking to him. He's got his own scars and memories but is still able to be a good person. 

 

And he and Cortez are so much fun. I loved peeking in on them in the Shuttle Bay and they'd be yelling back and forth at each other, joshing each other around. It humanized both of them for me. 

 

Jack was dead from my ME2 playthrough, and the students struggle a lot more without Jack. Rodriguez asks Shepard about the first kill, as she had hers today. Both James's and Javik's answers there are great imo. (James says "Brings back memories. Bad ones.", and Javik says "Better they learn early.", but his voice is a lot softer there than usual)

 

I've never seen that one. I really need to be brave and mix up my playthroughs. I just can't bear to let people die in the SM as yet. I'm sure someday I will. But... sniffle. I love everyone too much to let them die.

 

This is just ME3, right?

 

 

Cortez and EDI, the most. Not a fan of the fembot thing in principle and missed Legion, but her pinnochio thing was charming. Cortez.. To be honest, gay companions aren't something I necessarily call for or think of having, but really ended up feeling bad for the guy. And he seemed even more lonely than my Shep (who was paired with Jack, who was missing for a bit). Him and Traynor both are also about the only connections I have to the ME2 story. "Fight for the lost". They're kind of a small addition to that.

 

Cortez does seem lonely, and he's so appreciative of the insight and friendship that he does get. At the party he's just so happy to be included.

 

(I think ME3 made the difference for me (good or bad), but I probably should have posted this in the "All ME" thread...)

 

What about Liara?

 

When on Ilos she wants to stay and study archives instead of stopping Saren. In the broker dlc she cries like a little baby after the broker is killed. Is she going to cry every time an enemy is killed? In ME3 on Mars she has doubts about defeating the reapers. On the shuttle going to Thessia she says she can't be that callous against her own people. She is a liability that puts the squad at risk. Her death on the beam run is the redeeming factor

 

That's what I find interesting about Liara now though. I think she's one of those emotions=on or emotions=off kinds of people. I agree that she can be a liability -- I think she's someone who tried to become a badass and both succeeded and failed. I think she's actually not suited for what she does at all, and her becoming the Shadow Broker always seems sad to me.

 

The one character that I really changed views on was Miranda. At first I did not like her. Over time, however, I came to use her on more and more missions because her skill set was undeniable one of the best. Eventually I came to develop a lot of respect for her.

 

I agree on Miranda -- I love her VA but didn't like her all that much, even after the loyalty mission, until the SM. There was just something about the way she kicked ass and led the teams (in my runthroughs anyway) that made me love her. She backed up all the bragging and came through. And her appearances in ME3 are touching.

 

However -- I do feel like there was a missed opportunity in ME3 to have Miranda be more of a trainwreck. She was a total Cerberus convert, a believer, and what they become in ME3 is so vile that I wish there was more than just an offhand reference or two by her to her decision to leave.

 

Last but not least, I forgot Zaeed, in terms of characters I came around on. I didn't like him all that much in ME2, but again in ME3 he just seems so lost. He seems much more human and accessible, and even at the party he's hilarious, whether he's booby-trapping Shep's apartment against the clone or clumsily trying to hit on Samara and talking about his True Love Jessie (I love that whole freaking scene so much).


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 1.) Jack. She did not make a good first-impression. And I was a n00b when I got into the series wit ME2, so I did not talk to her (or any other squadmate) back on the ship, and hers was not one of the loyalty-missions I did before taking on the Suicide Mission (I rushed off because the crew abduction got me pissed).

 

When I played the second time, I started talking to people. I had made up my mind on her not being someone I cared for. Also, I pre-determined that I was going to romance Miranda. Then in my first conversation with Jack I felt myself actually beginning to like her, and I actually tried to resist liking her so I'm pretty sure I stopped talking to her for some time, but then I also found that Miranda was not very compelling and that my attraction to her (which was pretty much purely sexual, up to that point) was fading away. In the end, though, I really fell for Jack. It is no small shift, either. She is my favorite character that BioWare has written.

 

2.) Miranda. As I said above, I was totally into her body when I started playing the games and thought I would be romancing her for sure. Then I talked to her, and basically lost interest. Then I began to hate her because I'd fallen for Jack and I took exception with some of the things Miranda said to her. After some time I reflected on it and thought "Well, maybe that was unworthy, but nobody is perfect." Over time I came to respect her. In many ways I find her to be a female version of my (male) Shepard, and imagine that he thinks very highly of her. I am a fan now. That being said, I feel like she is not very well written overall, because the content on her character really just leaves me wanting. I like her more for what I see her as than her actual portrayal.

 

3.) Kaidan. Playing ME1 as a male, you can have a conversation with each and every squadmate that is recruitable (or otherwise placed on your team) up to that point after Anderson gives you the ship and before you take on any mission... except Kaidan. When my first attempt at getting to know Kaidan was met with "I've wasted enough of your time, let's do this another time," I was taken aback. It felt to me (not realizing the gameplay mechanic) that the guy did not want to talk to me. Also, someone that soft-spoken can give you the wrong impressions. I (like many others) took it to mean that Kaidan was some meek and dull character. However, in subsequent replays, I found that that was far from the truth. His character has some subtlety to it, but he is actually deeper (and even more badass) than he gets credit for. At first I was romancing Ashley, used to leave him on Virmire and not think much of it, then used to leave him and regret it. Then, for unrelated reasons, I started leaving Ashley behind instead. Kaidan has developed into a good friend to my Shepard, and quite frankly has a more meaningful friendship than Garrus.

 

 

After ME2 & 1, I learned to approach the characters differently. Give them a chance, find something good about the character and learn to like them. So now, no character really "wins" me over because I do not pass judgment quickly enough.


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I liked all of them but Liara.

I started with ME2, so I'm just minding my own business when there seems to be this blue stripper that seems to know who I, the mighty Shepard, am. . .alright, so she's an information broker, but they're basically pole dancing computers for data to blackmail people with, so it's roughly the same thing. The fact that this connection was forced bothered me, and I really wanted to just give her to the Shadow Broker and call it a day.

These feels escalated in ME3.

Then I played ME1. And had to deal with a whiny, clingy, naive little blue thing that I wish I could have kicked off my ship and not recruited like I could with Wrex, Garrus, and Tali. . .the three of whom are too awesome not to recruit.

. . .So really, I was just surprised that my perception of her didn't change after finally playing the first one.

 

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Also I accidentally romanced Jack in ME2, so I always sit there smirking when she calls me 'The king of the Boy Scouts' in ME3 because I like to think that she realizes that it was all a big accident and she basically just forced herself on the most oblivious person of all time.

"Hey Jack, ol' buddy good to see you! I'm still dedicated to being your friend- why are you sad? Don't be sad we can be friends I won't bother you with questions- wait what are you- Why are you grabbing the zipper on my pants- NO DON'T TOUCH ME THERE LEGION HELP SHE'S-" *com cuts off*. :huh:

 

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Also, Tali's complete lack of attempt to stop Legion from uploading the Reaper Code. That was a missed opportunity and disappoints me to this day.


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Probably the two biggest cases of this for me were James Vega and Javik.

 

They were the only two characters that I went into the game expecting to constantly role my eyes at.

 

They ended up being my two favorite squadmates of ME3.


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The little softer, kinder moments with Javik are few and far between, but they're so important to his character for me, and really mitigate the harshness of who he first seemed to be. His story is incredibly tragic when you look at it (and the Citadel DLC just made me feel so bad for the guy, both because he's so drunk and funny, and also because the morning after he's just so damn sad. Same for the scene with the memory shard, when he gives that speech about not remembering (but not feeling the pain either) yet Shep's paragon response is able to get him to try just for a moment to remember who he was and what he lost.

 

Yeah, the memory shard scene is also one of my favourites. I'm not there yet in my current run, but look very forward to it.

 

I have totally become a fan of James, and he's someone I started bringing on missions (like Thane and Kasumi for me in ME2) even when he wasn't a good tactical fit, just to hear what he was going to say about the situation.

 

I think James is a great example of how players can be rewarded with attention to detail and if they look more closely. From far away, James is just a big blocky lunk of a guy. But when you view his face in closeup, he's got scars all over the place -- the guy has obviously been through his share of stuff. And then it's the same when talking to him. He's got his own scars and memories but is still able to be a good person. 

 

And he and Cortez are so much fun. I loved peeking in on them in the Shuttle Bay and they'd be yelling back and forth at each other, joshing each other around. It humanized both of them for me.

 

He says a lot of great stuff during missions, he can be a total goof, then in the next moment serious/insightful. Another thing I love about him is how often he says "Sh*t". I don't know why, but this cracks me up constantly (I guess a lot has to do with Freddie and how he delivers those words, just plain awesomeness :D).

 

It's funny, because reading how many people first had a different impression of James is exactly how Mac Walters wrote him. Success, I'd say :)

James got his heart in the right place and you are right. He has been through a lot, yet he is still such a kind soul, honorable, funny. A guy you love to keep around. Be friends with.

 

It totally did! In general, I love what Bioware did in ME3, letting the squadmates move around and interact with each other. Another of my favourite scenes is the one with James and Garrus in the Mess Hall, it's just so heartwarming. I hope they keep these interactions up, it adds so much more depth to characters and it's fun and interesting to see how they behave around each other.

 

I've never seen that one. I really need to be brave and mix up my playthroughs. I just can't bear to let people die in the SM as yet. I'm sure someday I will. But... sniffle. I love everyone too much to let them die.

 

Been there, believe me. I chuckle at some of my older posts sometimes because I always said I could never kill of certain characters etc., but it can be such a rich and rewarding experience. It's just great to see a different path.


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EDI grew on me as the story progressed because the devs seemed to actually took their time with developing her. And she's a damn fun squadmate, I ended up taking her around much more than expected because of that. I didn't care for Liara so much in ME1 and the fainting annoyed me, but I really started to like her in ME2 - and she became my favorite character in ME3. I enjoyed her character development. James is another character I didn't like at first, but he grew on me as time went on. He has a good sense of humor, and I like the banter between him and Cortez.
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I haven't done a playthrough with Dr. Michelle! I'm totally going to do that next time. I keep forgetting that's an option in ME3.

I had her on the ship for one playthrough. She has a nice voice.
 

I've never seen that one. I really need to be brave and mix up my playthroughs. I just can't bear to let people die in the SM as yet. I'm sure someday I will. But... sniffle. I love everyone too much to let them die.

If you're worried about having squadmates die during the suicide mission, do an ME3 default playthrough. You will be able to do Grissom without Jack. She is not in an ME3 default playthrough. Also, a default playthrough is a lot different from having an save imported from ME2


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Like most, I didn't like James at first. I guess this was primarily because of his non-introduction.

 

But the one person I really wanted to through off my ship was Wrex in ME1 (luckily ME doesn't allow this).

 

He threatened some several guys before being picked up, has some cliché comments during the very first moments, and disobeyed orders when shooting the unarmed Fist for some credits. Later on the ship he told Shep to 'talk to the Quarian'.

At that point I had made my mind that I didn't like this stereotypical mercenary character.

 

But when I dragged him along later on he had some humorous squad banter on the citadel (especially with Garrus, in front of the Krogan statue), funny remarks or great stories like the one with Aleena.

Wrex is now basically my favourite ME-verse character.


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Also, Tali's complete lack of attempt to stop Legion from uploading the Reaper Code. That was a missed opportunity and disappoints me to this day.

 

Yea with the option for Shepard to put a bullet into her mask.  That would be neat.  But it can't work this way because it will countermand your decision.

 

If you let Legion upload the code it results in Tali killing herself.  However, if you get what you want then she stops Legion but then how do you ever get to the uploaded code for the Geth?

 

You would then need to add something that stops Tali like shooting her dead but that means no suicide.  So in the end the suggestion really doesn't work.  At best it replaces Tali killing herself with Shepard killing her.

 

Reading most of the responses I've noticed that a pattern might be forming.  People that end up liking Jarvik or James seem to be more anti-PC and kill em types.  People that like some of the others like soft spoken types and try to fight the war in a less violent way.  I am NOT saying one is better than the other.  Just pointing out a difference.



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I was more often surprised for the better.

Iron bull, jack, mordin, Miranda.

I did have a few negative reactions as the characters developed: Ashley/Kaiden and especially that weird wannabe ME3 ninja big bad.

He was very poorly portrayed. I understand what they were going for, but all that really came through was "CO0l SP4CE NINJA!!!!!"

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The worst character for me, outside of Cortez, was Udina.  His motivation was never fully explained on why he sided with TIM and what he expected to get out of it. 


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