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For me it was also Javik. I expected him to be kind of standard, and while I liked his look and voice acting, he seemed little more than Warrior Race Dude in the beginning. However, especially my Renegon Shepard got along with him very well and as I started taking him along for more mission, the true horror of his experience, as well as his disconnect from the people of this cycle ("They sent our own children against us, thinking we wouldn't kill them." "Did you?" "What answer would you prefer?") that would cause his exasperation with them became more logical. There was never a choice for him. They didn't need anything else but ruthless warriors.

 

What really won me over was the subtle tragedy that after all his blustering about the superiority of the Protheans, he wasn't actually ever allowed to see the Prothean empire when it was not already in complete shambles; when he was born, even the Citadel was already lost. It made him a lot more sympathetic and multi-layered to me that he wasn't just someone celebrating how superawesome his people were, but that when Javik was born, they probably had nothing else to cling onto in terms of Prothean superiority than old shards because the Reapers were already kicking their ass. It makes sense that a civilisation on the brink of collapse beatings its people into constant suicidal missions would do its best to infuse them with a great sense of pride in something that is bigger than themselves so that they don't just disperse and all try to save their own hides. So all in all, yeah, Javik was a great addition and my biggest problem with him is that I see him as absolutely integral to the story and he should not have been DLC.


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Zaeed.

 

When I first downloaded him, I expected him to be this total a-hole I could not stand. His intro on Omega did nothing to prove that wrong, but as I talked with him aboard ship, and heard all of his dialogue, I actually ended up liking Zaeed. I find most of his actions reprehensible, but he proved to be far more interesting than I thought he would be.


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honestly... Liara... idk she rubbed me the wrong way when i first played the game and her automatic hug in ME2 has me cringing >.< but well i found her to be ok after awhile and a good friend...


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My favorite characters are Mordin, Zaeed, Legion,Javik and Kasumi. Their dialogues are hilarious and quite refreshing.

I didn't like Javik at all - before taking him as second squadmate on Thessia mission. He was absolutely brilliant in his dismantling Liara's beliefs.

Zaeed is totally bad ass. But he is bad ass with credo, and I respect his character in a way.

Kasumi with her observations and unique dialogues is adorable. You can't get angry with her, even if you try.

Mordin was quite interesting character in ME2, and a hero in ME3 - he has probably best background story in whole universe.

Legion (and geth story) was most touching in my opinion (not making sense sometimes, but still), hence we came to the my less favorite characters.

 

Ashley (ME2, ME3) is just a Steadfast Tin Soldier - with brass instead of brain and heart. In ME1 she was good, if broken, human - even her obvious distrust to alien crew members was important, it made her even more human. In ME2 and ME3 I found myself seeking for renegade interruption during every interaction with her.

And now, TOP of SH*T PARADE  - Tali in ME3.

She didn't made anything to stop this war, even after ME2 events, when she interacted with Legion well enough.

She was an Admiral! But when you asking her, why she didn't do anything, her only answer was that "public disagreement among the higher-ups would divide the fleet ". As if Admiral Korris wasn't public enough with his disagreement before. She obviously didn't tell nor Gerrel, nor Xen, nor even Korris about non-hostile geth. If their fleets weren't so important,I'd let them all die (sadly, we don't have choice to save only Korris and his fleet).


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Garrus, as a character and as a team mate. My first couple of runs in ME, I NEVER used him. And any interaction him between him and Shepard was just awkward. I was really confused when he became a possible love interest. It wasn't until ME3 really that I came around to like him and Shepard and him had some real chemistry. ME2 had a bit of that when Shepard first saw Garrus in Omega but I still really didn't use him. After ME3 though, I went back to ME and threw him in my party to get the Turian achievement and now I don't go anywhere without him. Having him there also made me appreciate the sniper rifle as well and I can't wait to use it again once I get everything else done with my current character. And using him gave his character  a little more depth and made the overall arc of his friendship with Shepard make more sense. WOW. Yup, I just took 5 long sentences to figure out you get to know a character by using them. <sigh> I just...ugh. Anyway. Yeah, Garrus. And I really like playing with Wrex and Garrus together. Oof. Those were some tense elevator rides in ME.


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When I first played the Mass Effect trilogy as my Paragon FemShep, Terra "Spoonlegs" Shepard (named because I kept forgetting to come out of crouch during ME1 and so she did over half the missions walking like her legs were bent spoons) I romanced Kaidan, though I wasn't particularly interested in him as a character - I just wanted Liara to leave me alone. (Seriously, Shepard never spoke to her after rescuing her, but Liara still thought they were dating) So by ME2 I was more irritated with him because he didn't trust Shepard, and then stuck to Garrus  all the way to the end of ME3. (After flirting with all the available options >.>) I still got Kaidan to side with me in ME3, and I liked him better then, but I didn't feel particularly attached to him.

 

But then, because not one, but two of my friends insisted that I play Kaidan's romance properly, I am currently playing a ManShep, Cole "Renegayde" Shepard (guess how he got the name) where I played through the first two games not dating anyone, then dated Kaidan in ME3, and... I got really attached to Kaidan, before the romance even started. 

 

I imagined in ME1 that Cole and Kaidan were those two guys that felt tension with each other, but didn't act on it because neither of them were comfortable with fraternisation at the time. In ME2 I was genuinely upset that he was mad at Cole, and went out of my way to make sure that they had cleared the air by ME3. And now the romance is finally here, and they'd both decided "let's get together, I like you and I'd rather be with you before the world ends"... I'm curled up in my gaming seat, grinning like an idiot because they just make so much sense being together, and Kaidan is such a sweet person, and I feel like I genuinely understand his character more than I did first time round and...dammit, I've become a Kaidan fangirl. When did this happen?!


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dammit, I've become a Kaidan fangirl. When did this happen?!

 

Welcome to the club, no escape now :P

I love your story about how you came to like him! I always liked Kaidan a lot, but also never romanced him properly with FemShep (my last did in 1+2, then broke up with him, so I really need to do an all FemShep-Kaidan-fluff-romance playthrough at some point), but I did the same as you, didn't romance anyone in ME1+2, then my MShep finally fell for Kaidan in ME3, I loved how this built up slowly. Great experience :)


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I came to like Liara more in ME2, she was so naive and teenagerish in ME1 that I never understood what people liked about her (I am a cranky old man).


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Conrad Verner

 

In ME1, the second time you see him, he said that femshep is beautiful. My femshep wanted to give the guy a hug and say thank you. Good guy and he's Shepard's number 1 fan


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crap wrong thread



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Mordin won me over. I didn't really talk to him on my first playthrough of ME2 and thought he was just some wacky scientist. Then on my second playthrough I opted to never use my standard squadmates and chose him to come with me for much of the game. He's now my favorite character. ESPECIALLY in ME3; as someone stated earlier, he's got the best backstory and fantastic character development.

 

Wrex seemed like a boring flat character in ME1...again until I took him with me everywhere. The reason he came off flat was that he's really down about the genophage destroying the Krogan people's will to do anything. Seeing him take charge and decide that the Krogan were not going to slowly fade away was awesome.

 

James appeared to be just a filler character that asked questions for new players to get up to speed. He definitely was more than filler. He was probably one of the nicest people in the Mass Effect series, but an example of "good is not soft." Then I watched Paragon Lost; HOLY CRAP! James is a fantastic character and one of my heavily used squadmates in ME3.


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I think I like James better after I read his Homeworld comic because it was the most direct connection to ME3 than his movie and the comic short. Like, he was thinking about his family while he was waiting for Shepard at the Embassy and Liara just left. Even if ME3 didn't acknowledge it, I like that he was made a Lieutenant Commander in Paragon Lost. Another part of why I prefer Kaidan alive is the fact that I still think him as a Lt Cmdr rather than a mere lieutenant. Everyone addressing Ashley as Lt Cmdr kinda break that.  

 

And I like him better in subsequent playthrough after I exhausted most of his interactions. He stop idolizing/worshiping Shepard only to grew into respect (even if he's very insubordinate with FemShep). I like that he became more reassured and confident in himself and that he found strength in his leadership. Kinda wish Ashley had his character development...


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Mordin, Wrex, Grunt, Zaeed, Samara and Jack if I had to pick my favorite ones. All the rest are very good. As I don't actually hate or dislike any character. But their stories/actions in game make them stand out to me more then the others. 



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In a weird turn-around, ME3 Miranda made me realize how much I loved hating her in ME2 (in the sense that she was a well written icequeen who knew her worth and didnt care about my FemShep issues with Cerberus and her Akuze background). Now I see it as a great rivalery. She definitly was getting things done and didnt bow to Shep. 

 

But for me, it all stemmed from the Miri they gave us in ME3 being so lame. Why wasnt she leading a Cerberus raiding party of sort? Instead of focusing on her sister. Its overall so pointless to do, like floating around aimlessly... Thats not the Miri I hated from ME2 cause she stood up to me and made Cerberus effective. In ME3, I almost feel pity for her when I refuse to help with her sister.  This is the end of the world... wheres my ME2 equal-to-Shep Miranda?

 

I eventually figured out how to make the rivalery story work. Now I let her become disloyal in ME2 in the conflict with Jack (Shep almost died on Akuze so it comes easy) so she gets to die in Sanctury. That way she becomes a dark example about losing sight of your priorities. Shep gets drunk with Tali 9great scene in the normady mini-bar if you never seen it) while finally voicing out how ME2 Miranda is what they would really need right now. Very bittersweet but I feel its more respecful of the characters an their relationship in my case.

 

 

Also I realized Kaidan wasnt so bad when played him with a renegade Shep. I still dont see why he was made Spectre (Udina desperatly needing his own toy soldier for his plan?), but as a renegade I can easily underestimate him and be surprised when he shows a little backbone. His hostility/questionning toward a Paragon Shep makes just no sense to me as she is already doing 'the right thing the right way'.

 

He feels so out of place on the Normandy compared to other ME1 squaddies who all had their turn to bring something to the table/show leadership. Its really like hes a tourist on there instead of a resident. Not what I would have expected from a Spectre (probably because the VS ressources had to be split in two?)

 

But strangely, as renegade, I get a kick from watching him play card with James in the lounge. Each time he relaxes a bit feels like a personal victory. His reaction to Cerberus also feels much more genuine. I dunno, id be insecure too if I had to put up with renegade Shep all the time.


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I never liked her in ME 2 but Miranda in ME 3 is a lot more tolerable to me.  I guess when looking at her circumstances she actually gained some humility in between the events of ME 2 and ME 3.  It went a long with me when she finally admitted it was wrong to want to implant a control chip inside Shepard.  In ME 2 she seemed borderline sociopathic at times (exceptions being her LM and the collector base).  In ME 3 she seems a lot more human.


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I never liked her in ME 2 but Miranda in ME 3 is a lot more tolerable to me.  I guess when looking at her circumstances she actually gained some humility in between the events of ME 2 and ME 3.  It went a long with me when she finally admitted it was wrong to want to implant a control chip inside Shepard.  In ME 2 she seemed borderline sociopathic at times (exceptions being her LM and the collector base).  In ME 3 she seems a lot more human.

 

I know right... its the timing that sucks for Miri's character development. She grew a soul during the War to End all Wars when her skills and ruthless focus were needed (and kinda expected from her demenor in ME2). TIM going mustache-twirling-evil and Cerberus taking a nosedive in ME3 means she kinda lost her bearing and ended up clinging to the one think that still made sense/ mattered to her... Its all pretty understandable.

 

Its just lame for those Shep who took the 'I respect her for her skill and dedication even if I dont personally like her' route in ME2 since theres not much but the shell of that left in ME3. I get that all characters cant have the same development of becoming tough, mature and dependable, but I feel Mirada did draw the short straw there.



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Zaheed is the main character who has grown on me. He is the bad guy fighting the god fight. I think he is one of the more colourful characters in ME.

I like Jack for the same reasons. I love how she develops into ME3. She still has her fruity language and aggression, but she turns it to help the cause.

But the character, I most like is Morinth. There is something appealing about having a physco killer on your side. It is a great shame that Bioware effectively made choosing her as a squad mate in ME3 a completely pointless exercise. I would loved to have her as an option for a squad mate in ME3. But alas, it is not possible.

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Liara.

Because.. idk, the vibe I got from her prior ME3 is that she has this 'unrequited love' feeling towards my Shep (who did not romance her obviously) that kinda shows in subtle and not so subtle ways.

But what made me mad at her, is that she didn't even bother telling Kaidan that it was she who surrendered my body to Cerberus for the Lazarus project.
And even up to ME3, I still didn't get to tell Kaidan (my LI) just that: "Look, I didn't voluntarilly walk into Cerberus's arms in the first place. Liara shipped my coffin to their address." Albeit it was for a good reason (hey at least I'm alive) but her not telling my bf what trully happened.. yeah, I'd expect Liara to be a better friend than that.

But in ME3, I kinda like her more because there I got the chance to tell her (in a nice and non aggressive kind of way) that Kaidan meant the world to my Shep. She love him back then, not even 'death' can shake her off that feeling nor the long time absence between them, her feelings to him still hasn't changed.

That's good enough for me, because I can only imagine the world of hurt riding inside her chest. Despite everything she has done for Shepard, the person she love with all her might still is very much in love with another person.
In ME3, I found my Shep hoping for the best for her. That she could finally move on and found someone who would return all her love and affection as well as being happy together.
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Javik for me too. I wasn't sure what to expect before I got him as a squadmate, but he's definitely one of my favorite characters now.


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Have to say Miranda...first time play ME2 I thought:Ok,so this is the character that's gonna turn her back on me in the end. But boy I was so wrong,and glad I was so wrong. This cold on the outside woman who's not afraid to sacrifice her own life for a sister she never spent any time with...she won my 100% respect.


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The opposite of this... I liked Jacob the first time I played ME2. Later on I realized he was kind of a jerk. You ask him something and he's like "None of your business."

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The opposite of this... I liked Jacob the first time I played ME2. Later on I realized he was kind of a jerk. You ask him something and he's like "None of your business."

How??? After a while all he could say to me was:I'm good,Shepard (with the brotherly handshake). Were you friend with him or rival?



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Kaidan kinda gets the short end of the stick due to A: Having to be interchangeable with Ashley... meaning despite being one of Earth's strongest Biotics, The easiest way to script a scene is just have him respond like Ashley would which is shot stuff.

 

and in ME2 lets be honest with the way the Horizon was played out... They had Ashley in mind for the scene since its a classic Ashley "Feels and Reacts" as opposed to Kaidan's "Thinks and Responds" but ME3 does do a good job of differentiating them... or atleast making Kaidan's more introspective character show up. As someone says Kaidan's more like Garrus in Me3 having grown into a role and become somewhat his own character independent of Shepard... unlike Ashley who lets face it, needs her skipper to guide her still.

 

 

That said

 

I try not to go into any game with an expectation of the characters, IE cause there have been so many times that Ill be told I'll love this character, Hated thier guts and everything they stood for and You'll hate this character like everbody else... Said Character is the only person that tells it like it is and doesn't come off as a suck up thus has my respect.

 

 

James was a good solid character, and his friendship with Cortez is so normal and feels genuine that I don't have any real complaints about the two of them.

 

Javik... Javik is like Fenris in my mind... Yeah he is kinda an *******... but considering his background. He is kinda justified in being pissed off as he is.

 

Edi 's only flaw is she is locked in the Joker route -Yes Jeff i'm still bitter about you getting me killed!... You're lucky I can't steal the bot away from you!


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For me, it has got to be Mordin.  In ME2, I had no real liking for Mordin.  He just spouts the Genophage justifications and has some minor drama with Maelon.  All that really changed in ME3 when he's hell bent on trying to end the Genophage.  I love the dialog between Shepard when Shepard is trying to sabotage the Genophage cure.

 

ME1, to be honest, has been forgettable.  A lot of the characters seem unlikable.  Wrex, Ashley, Kaidan, Tali and Garrus were pretty bland.  Liara had the awkward girl act but really fell flat to me.  Presley was annoying.  Joker was always pissed.

 

ME2 had characters with some impact to me, particularly Zaeed, Miranda's ice queen personality, Garrus' cool bro attitude and Jack's crazy volatile stuff.  Tali never really warmed up to me.  Grunt was Wrex-a-like.  Legion was a talking flashlight.  Mordin was a singing goofball and Jacob was just... there.



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Probably kaidan, my first playthrough he was the guy rarely used who was blown up. Grew to appreciate the character and in the end ash dies more often including in my main shep version.

Not a huge fan of me3 approach of trying to engender sympathy in advance of when they tried to murder the off. Think me2 mordin is the rational defender of the need for genophage, me3's is rather blasé about curing genophage for me and it clearly is build sympathy to push the sacrifice card. Equally I'm still annoyed for my favourite character they rehashed Miranda's me2 loyalty mission(safe soft sacrificial angle again) rather than giving her a proper role in regards Cerberus and the betrayal by Tim of everything she believed it stood for.