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[htisscrimbliv]

How? Pls share. The only build I've found is with the deathward going full ice mage, but wow is that boring

[Unbelievabletekkers]

I think if you have to go mage, Elementalist is the walking nuke.  The keeper with Dispel, Upgraded Barrier, Upgraded Static Cage and Lightning is OP.  I ran as a 17 earlier today and contributed heaps.  Heck I've even sucked the Demon Commander away from an injured team-mate using Static Cage.  Very under-rated character imo....

 

I have never had much success with Necro, the blizzard is terrific, but the lack of a barrier can be so sick to play with if a dragon strikes you.

 

My grinds tend to be Legionnaire, Reaver, Keeper, Elementalist, occasional Archer.

 

I rank them up as close as poss to 19.  Lego can run as a 17 easily with the Emperor's Shield.  Reaver feels squishy as a 15, but is OP from 18 and up.  Keeper is decent even as a 17.  Elementalist I like to have at 18 minimum and the Archer I can normally play as a 19, however it's the one class where for NM runs, I prefer to have a 20.

[BreakJohn]

i use fade cloak, fade step, winter's grasp and of course walking bomb you'd be surprised at just how much damage you could put out all while being pretty darn defensive using fade cloak in conjunction with fade step. If you are on the lower side of promotions spirit mark is a viable alternative to pick yourself up when simulacrum kicks in.

 

super easy to use as well, just walking bomb a decent sized mob as per usual. then play keep away while dealing damage with fade cloak/step. try to get in as many auto attacks as possible when no one is aggro'd on you as well for that gathering storm cd reduction. winter's grasp freezable enemies coming your way. learning enemies line of sights and how/when they will attack is crucial when playing the necro and not being babysat by a barrier. hope this helps i've been having a lot of success with the necro on nightmares since the recent buff.

 

 

I think if you have to go mage, Elementalist is the walking nuke.  The keeper with Dispel, Upgraded Barrier, Upgraded Static Cage and Lightning is OP.  I ran as a 17 earlier today and contributed heaps.  Heck I've even sucked the Demon Commander away from an injured team-mate using Static Cage.  Very under-rated character imo....

 

I have never had much success with Necro, the blizzard is terrific, but the lack of a barrier can be so sick to play with if a dragon strikes you.

 

My grinds tend to be Legionnaire, Reaver, Keeper, Elementalist, occasional Archer.

 

I rank them up as close as poss to 19.  Lego can run as a 17 easily with the Emperor's Shield.  Reaver feels squishy as a 15, but is OP from 18 and up.  Keeper is decent even as a 17.  Elementalist I like to have at 18 minimum and the Archer I can normally play as a 19, however it's the one class where for NM runs, I prefer to have a 20.

 

he was asking for advice on necro builds and play styles that are viable in nightmare. and for good reason too, the necro is the hardest mage to use in nightmare anyone can use an elementalist, keeper, virtuoso or arcane with little to no problems. 

[htisscrimbliv]

Yea thanks for the advice I've been playing around with spirit mark and noticed that there are few things more satisfying then turning a pride demon against it's brethren lol

[DrakeHasNoFlow]

Necromancer is underrated in nm. Not all enemies are weak to fire status but walking bomb is effective across all factions.

[ottffsse]

IMO energy barrage, horror+, ice mine, walking bomb+ is best with variation if substituting horror with fade cloak. But with the recent buff to dot crit and hakkon staff there is no reason not to use horror+ as it will deal more damage than fade cloak and you have both freeze and fear that way, and great dps as possible with a necro with staking walking bombs and energy barrages. Also energy barrage reduces cooldown of wb to like 7s. Try it.

Still be very careful when not plating with barrier in group. Works best with a taunt/ real tank in the party though.

[JiaJM98]

I play any character on NM except Necro and Katari... Guess that says a lot.

[SpaceV3gan]

Walking Bomb, Winter's Grasp, Fade Cloak and Fade Step. Aggressive, heavy-risk-high-reward-squishy-vanguard-esque gameplay.
Practice in Perilous beforehand to build up your confidence, discover your weaknesses and perhaps get addicted to it.

I have 98 Promotions on my Necro. I just love this gothic chick too much.

[JiaJM98]

Still be very careful when not plating with barrier in group. Works best with a taunt/ real tank in the party though.

That's why I like to taunt stuff with my lego. (Then fall asleep half way through a zone because I'm too tired of doing auto attacks for a whole NM match...)

[JiaJM98]

I have 98 Promotions on my Necro. I just love this gothic chick too much.

I have saw someone rocked with Necro in NM using bilzzard, walking bomb, horror, winter's grasp. The blizzard never stopped and he never moved for the whole duration of zone 3. Everything seems popping, freezing or in panic and things die real quick. But again, I got no idea how many promotion he has, so...

 

Superb tank + dps + CC + combo initiator 

[Dekibra]

I have 98 Promotions on my Necro. I just love this gothic chick too much.

 

Ugh...

 

[Silversmurf]

Walking Bomb, Winter's Grasp, Fade Cloak and Fade Step. 

 

Exactly how I play it.  Lots of fun.

[Texasmotiv]

I have had limited success in NM on the necro without a barrier caster. I usually take WB/FC/Horror/WG. Also works better with a tanky aggro grabber (lego with CS mostly). She puts out tons of damage and Horror is a great CC. Staying alive involves constant vigilance and usually a good amount of team support.

 

This is from the perspective of a low-mid promotion player (just under 100 total promotions).

[sonofbarak]

I have had limited success in NM on the necro without a barrier caster. I usually take WB/FC/Horror/WG. Also works better with a tanky aggro grabber (lego with CS mostly). She puts out tons of damage and Horror is a great CC. Staying alive involves constant vigilance and usually a good amount of team support.

 

This is from the perspective of a low-mid promotion player (just under 100 total promotions).

 

Us low-mid had to stick together be there Sept. 1

[Sulaco_7]

She is squishy, but can't you use spirit mark to self res yourself whenever you go down?  I would think this would work especially well in nightmare...

[Yallegro]

The Necromancer

 

(Build has been nicknamed The Conduit, in reference to spirits and its focus on enhancing cooldown times)

 

Video

 

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Part 1 

Part 2 

 

Intro

 

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My nightmare necro is basically an in between of my previous two builds. Instead of Blizzard it has Ice Mine because you really need that Ice Armor protection put you won’t be able to summon enough mana to keep Blizzard going (enemies won’t die fast enough). In playing style it is basically the Speedy Necro without Flashfire. Use Ice Mine to keep yourself safe while regenerating mana with Winter’s Stillness and cutting your cooldown times with Gathering Storm (Winter's Stillness also reduces cooldown times)

 

The Skills

 

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Winter’s Grasp

-Very incapacitating against lone targets

-Immune to terrain irregularites and blocks

-At tier2 it deals 400% weapon dmg to the primary target

-Can be used to freeze Arcane Horror Chest Guardian, Venatori Assassin, Red Templar Behemoth and the Venatori Commander

-Not very effective at damaging groups (tier2)

-Chill is a fairly minor status effect

-Very interesting combo with Virulence

 

Walking Bomb

-Must have tier2

-DOES NOT REQUIRE TARGET TO DIE BEFORE SPREADING, use the manual trigger

-Devastating damage and knockdown when triggered inside a large crowd

-As innaccurate as Stonefist, aim carefully

-Strafe away from lone warriors to take aim at groups of archers further away.

-Not very helpful against lone targets

-If the first target survives the trigger it is no longer affected by Walking Bomb

 

Ice Mine

-A cheap way to get Ice Armor

-Improved defense lets you use Gathering Storm more easily

-May freeze a Venatori Assassins or warrior trying to sneap up on you

-Ice Armor stays if the nearby target is frozen

-As far as I know it has no maximum duration

-When you want to change position, replace Ice Mine first

 

Horror

-Incapacitates many dangerous enemies immune to knockdown and/or frozen

Examples : Pride demon, Red Templar Knight, Venatori Brute, see below for full list

-The area of effect grows a bit bigger at tier2

-At tier2 if only costs 35 mana

-At tier2 it deals considerable damage to groups

-At tier2 use it to deal double damage to targets weak to spirit dmg

-Does not incapacitate bosses, assassins or Chest Guardians see below for a full list

 

How to use

 

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Always start by placing Ice Mine on a good spot. Fire Walking Bomb into any large group and trigger it manually. Horrors works on many enemies, unfortunately they will not be incapacitated for long. Always try and hit multiple targets with Horror. Winter’s Grasp is for incapacitating dangerous targets and triggering Virulence. Make as much use as possible of Gathering Storm and Winter’s Stillness to reduce cooldown times. If you are facing many shielded Venatori, use Horror and Winter's Grasp first to put holes in their defense for Walking Bomb. Bosses make interesting targets for Walking Bomb, let them take the dmg and wait for enough enemies to cluster around them, then trigger the bomb.If given the option, curse a group of archers or mages with Walking Bomb or Horror rather than cursing a group of warriors of the same size

 

How to build

 

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http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Sidony

-Go down the gravelord tree and get Death Siphon

-Get Gathering Storm

-Upgrade Horror

-Get Walking Bomb tier2

-Get Winter's Stillness

-Get Ice Mine tier1 and Ice Armor

-Upgrade Winter’s Grasp

-Pick your last Passives, wouldn’t advice Overwhelming Force due to mega health on the enemies. Power of the Dead should be good.

 

Why not to get

 

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Spirit Mark : 

-Enemies are designed to have high health and do low dmg

-Players are designed to have low health and do high damage

As a result your minion may do disappointing damage if you are decently strong (still true on nightmare)

-A lot of minions are clumsy and spend a lot of time ignoring or missing enemies.

 

Blizzard

-Huge manadrain in a mode where things take forever to die

-Strips chill off of enemies when it deactivates

 

Flashfire: A paper bullet against the big swarms of beefy enemies

 

Important Status Immunities : Necromancer

 

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Appreciating the chill status effect : A simple movement speed decrease which yields several small but tangible advantages

-Enemy warriors take longer to reach ranged characters and are more predictable

-Enemies can be kited more easily, if you don’t know what kiting is --> google

-Melee characters can run down enemies much more easily (THIS IS IMPORTANT)

-Causes enemy warrior charge attacks to fail as they "misjudge the distance"

 

Despair demons are immune to frozen but not to panic, panic is very effective against despair demons

 

Terror demons are immune to panic but not to frozen

 

small Rage demons are vulnerable to panic and frozen but big Rage demons are immune to panic.

 

Fear demons are immune to both panic and frozen

 

Pride demons cannot be frozen but are vulnerable to panic

 

Red Templar Knights are immune to frozen but not to panic

 

Red Templar Behemoths can be frozen but are immune to panic

 

The Venatori Commander can be frozen

 

White Venatori Mages are often immune to panic

 

Black Hooded Venatori  Mages have varying immunities.

 

Red Templar Shadows are immune to both frozen and panic but Venatori Assassins can be frozen

 

The Revenant Chest Guardian is immune to panic and frozen but the Arcane Horror Chest Guardian can be frozen.

 

Surprisingly, Frost dragonlings can be frozen and chilled.

 

Important Elemental Weaknesses/Resists : The Necromancer

 

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Enemies weak to cold dmg : Rage demon, Red Templar Behemoth, Deepstalker and Gibbering horror, Fire Wraiths, Inferno Dragon and dragonlings

 

Enemies weak to spirit dmg : Fear demon, Terror Demon, Red Templar Horror, Chest Guardians, Storm Dragon and dragonlings

 

Enemies strong against cold dmg : Despair demon, Red Templar Knight, Cold Wraith, Chest Guardians,  most Great Beasts (Druffalo), Frost Dragon and dragonlings

 

Enemies strong against spirit dmg : none (except nightmare green Wraiths)