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[Ulous]

After playing DAO to death and then to death some more I decided to take a bit of a break from it, while still in the RPG mood I decided to blow the dust off my copy of oblivion c/w all the add-ons and expansions. Now this is where DAO really shines for me, because it has basically made oblivion feel average at best in my opinion, I re-played oblivion for about half an hour before I couldn't stand it anymore, everything I thought I loved about the game has now gone.

For me this makes DAO one of best, if not the best  RPG of all time, just the way it has made other RPG's that were/are great seem a lot less great.

Just my two pence.

[Benzii]

Well i loved DA so much i decided to buy kotor off steam to see what that was like and WOW Bioware do know how to make awsome games

[Metalunatic]

I know what you mean Ulous. I've been playing nothing but DAO for more than a month now, I can't play my other games more than 15 minutes at a time before I switch back. I'm hoping ME2 will get me occupied at least for some time while waiting for Awakening.

[ZEEKY94]

I really think Bioware have done a brilliant job but being a ps3 user my options are limited :/

[Tankkiller1337]

Please dont compare Oblivion to DAO. If you are looking for a deep story with good characters, go for DOA.



If you want a huge World where you can do whatever you want, when you want and kill everybody or steal from anybody or just make cool magic, download awesome mods and many other things,

then get Oblivion.

[Nizrael]

I've played through DA:O twice in the month I've owned it. I still haven't finished a playthrough of Oblivion, and I've owned it since it came out for the 360.

[RedSocialKnight]

The world in Oblivion is really quite small -- to me it felt smaller than DA:O feels, although I wouldn't swear to the square footage.



Certainly, it's much smaller than the previous Elder Scrolls game, Morrowind. Oblivion really was about bring a graphic upgrade to the series -- and for its time the graphics were amazing.



But the depth of the world did NOT compare to DA:O or to Oblivion's own predecessor in the series.



I look forward to the next Elder Scrolls game having the beauty of Oblivion combined with the sheer size of Morrowind.



And even for a non-linear game, Bethesda could learn from Bioware in terms of writing NPCs that feel less interchangeable.

[RangerSG]

RedSocialKnight wrote...

The world in Oblivion is really quite small -- to me it felt smaller than DA:O feels, although I wouldn't swear to the square footage.

Certainly, it's much smaller than the previous Elder Scrolls game, Morrowind. Oblivion really was about bring a graphic upgrade to the series -- and for its time the graphics were amazing.

But the depth of the world did NOT compare to DA:O or to Oblivion's own predecessor in the series.

I look forward to the next Elder Scrolls game having the beauty of Oblivion combined with the sheer size of Morrowind.

And even for a non-linear game, Bethesda could learn from Bioware in terms of writing NPCs that feel less interchangeable.

QFT, other than atmospheric graphics, I do not think there's a single thing Oblivion did better than Morrowind. And honestly, I felt the NPCs in Morrowind typically had more character than those of Oblivion. The only part of Oblivion's story I really thought was well done was the Dark Brotherhood questline. Lucien was an amazing character that threw into relief how vanilla everything else was.

They're two different style games. But I don't know how the "realistic physics" adds anything to gameplay. Given the choice I'd want NPCs who actually felt like they had depth. Bioware's games have always had that, even with the Neverwinter Nights 1 OC. Obsidian does as well, generally. But Bethesda has gotten so wrapped up in atmospherics that they've forgotten what it meant to make the Orcs citizens in Daggerfall or the sheer pathos of Valen in Morrowind.  That's my thought on it, anyway.

Modifié par RangerSG, 27 janvier 2010 - 09:33 .

[kuroshimodo]

Though I love rpgs I really couldn't get into Oblivion even before Dragon Age came out. I don't know it just seems a bit dull to me. Besides, the last time I tried going through it, something went wrong and I can't continue the main storyline due to a bug or something. That kinda ticked me off so I waited for Dragon Age to come out and I was happy when it arrived. So to me Dragon Age seems to be a well in-depth game whereas Oblivion just seemed kinda dull. I really don't see why people make such a big fuss about it but oh well. Well that is it for me.

Modifié par kuroshimodo, 27 janvier 2010 - 08:43 .

[Feraele]

I really enjoyed Oblivion when I played it, but I think I have been spoiled by DA:O and Bioware...hehe I don't think I could play it now to be honest.

[Monica21]

Oblivion out of the box was nearly unplayable to me, and I did finish the main quest but wasn't interested enough in the side quests to bother. If a game has to have 50 or 100 mods to make it "interesting" and give it replayability, then I'm not going to waste my time.



That said, I do know that I'm in the minority of people who played it. I have some very good friends who still mod and play Oblivion, but it certainly isn't for everyone, nor do I think it's appropriate to compare the two games.

[Girchou]

I have played oblivion,done everything now im bored,

but i still loved it!

Dragon age,done most of it im no where near bored

And i absolutely love it!

[blademaster7]

I don't know if I'll ever get back to Oblivion again. DAO has set the standards way to high for me. Oblivion simply cannot match the awesomeness of story and dialogue/voice acting that DAO has to offer.

Maybe if I let my imagination go wild...

Imperial Guard: Stop right there criminal scum!
Sten: I am not going to be caged again. Draw your sword!
Warden: I'm with you Sten.
Alistair: Hey, hey, let's not get ahead of ourselfs here. Do you want the entire city to turn against us? Pay the fine and let's forget everything.
Warden:(Persuade) Don't back down now Alistair. We didn't do anything wrong.
Alistair: Fine, but we will regret it I tell you.
Zevran: So, we're killing him? Nothing wrong with that I say.

*Kills guard*

Sten approves +5
Alistair dissaproves -3
Zevran approves +2

[Bryant84]

oblivon is an awesome game but it's completely different from dragon age like somebody already said in oblivon you can do anything you want go anywhere you want something you cant do in dragon age the side quests are much better in oblivon as well but dragon age has a much deeper story line and a better levelling up system but what i would give to be able to summon a faded wraith in dragon age

[highcastle]

blademaster7 wrote...

I don't know if I'll ever get back to Oblivion again. DAO has set the standards way to high for me. Oblivion simply cannot match the awesomeness of story and dialogue/voice acting that DAO has to offer.

Maybe if I let my imagination go wild...

Imperial Guard: Stop right there criminal scum!
Sten: I am not going to be caged again. Draw your sword!
Warden: I'm with you Sten.
Alistair: Hey, hey, let's not get ahead of ourselfs here. Do you want the entire city to turn against us? Pay the fine and let's forget everything.
Warden:(Persuade) Don't back down now Alistair. We didn't do anything wrong.
Alistair: Fine, but we will regret it I tell you.
Zevran: So, we're killing him? Nothing wrong with that I say.

*Kills guard*

Sten approves +5
Alistair dissaproves -3
Zevran approves +2

OT: I never liked Oblivion when it came out. Like someone else mentined, Morrowind felt much stronger. While still nowhere near the depth of a BioWare game in terms of story, there were still memorable characters, a world with a real history to it, and people I grew to care about in the game itself. With Oblivion, I couldn't make that emotional connection, and for me that's the purpose of an RPG. A good story and gripping characters that leave an impact on you the way any good book or film would. DA:O did that for me. Better than I anticipated it would, even, and I've been a loyal BioWare fan since the days of Baldur's Gate.

[Feraele]

Yup have to say I was blown away by the story and the characters, down to the ending where I got all choked up about it..



Very well done Bioware.

[TyroneTasty]

I beat Dragon Age in 6 straight days, while I've restarted Oblivion 5 times and never beat it. They should have just done away with any sense of story in Oblivion because that's one of the last things I care about every time I play that game. Probably because the story is so dull that I'd rather go kill mud crabs all day instead of dealing with some stupid oblivion gates. Perhaps someday I'll make a serious run at finishing it. Both have their qualities but I think Dragon Age does a better job doing what it sets out to do.

[herwin1]

Fallout 3 is Oblivion in the DC area. The problem with leveling up is still there, but the role playing is a bit deeper. DAO has a problem with linearity that pulls it down relative to Fallout 3, but otherwise its competitive.

[MrKrisSatan]

TyroneTasty wrote...

I beat Dragon Age in 6 straight days, while I've restarted Oblivion 5 times and never beat it. They should have just done away with any sense of story in Oblivion because that's one of the last things I care about every time I play that game. Probably because the story is so dull that I'd rather go kill mud crabs all day instead of dealing with some stupid oblivion gates. Perhaps someday I'll make a serious run at finishing it. Both have their qualities but I think Dragon Age does a better job doing what it sets out to do.

i beat oblivion (the main story and all the guild quests) in one weekend, however i have never managed to complete morrowind, i love morrowind so much more with its flying and the abillity to kill charectors that are important to the story. bioware make better rpg's than bethesda, oblivion to me is like the towns they have in cowboy movies where its nothing but a store front, the depth just isnt there in bethesda games.

[garyjohnreed]

I play oblivion, fallout 3 ,DA:O, mass effect, crysis. Any game that makes you think is good IMHO

[Abriael_CG]

I definitely can relate with the feelings of the OP. Bethesda's style is definitely surpassed.

[Duckduden]

Hehe, same thing happen with my oblivion experience. After playing a RPG from bioware every character in Oblivion(and fallout 3 for that matter) seems shallow, and the face animations almost makes me cry. Also there are so many more options within the dialogue in Bioware games, compared to the rest.

[hexaligned]

The thing about Morrowind and Oblivion, is that they are more about exploring and adventuring than they are about a linear story line. I put many an hour into them, if memory serves I did actually beat Morrowind, don't think I ever beat Oblivion. I still had tons of fun with them though.

[Shadowwot]

For Bethesda Games, I enjoyed Oblivion when it came out (eventually getting bored and unable to play) but I found Fallout 3 a much better game. I found where Oblivion had way too many crappy quests. I am no longer interested in collecting plants or killing rats (although I did find it entertaining in Oblivion when you kill the rats in the lady's basement and she is upset - I thought that was pretty funny). I would much rather have 20 well done quests.

[Abriael_CG]

relhart wrote...

The thing about Morrowind and Oblivion, is that they are more about exploring and adventuring than they are about a linear story line.

The problem about this whole "exploration" horse that bethesda's fans beat to death every time is that for exploration to be fun there has to be something interesting to explore.
Bethesda's "worlds" (more like small regions, given their lilliputian size) don't really have anything to explore. All the dungeons are the same (just the same tiles rearranged), all the keeps are the same, all the caves are the same, with no real lore to them and a few generic enemies slapped inside.

Honestly, i don't feel the drive to "explore" something that has no real lanmarks to speak of...