Buwhahahahah - you know Triple Triad has been developed into a standalone multiplayer web game now right? As a fan-project. Using all the original cards and rules.
How come I didn't know about this ?!? 
I've wasted my life... *puts all video games since PS2 in garbage can*
How come I didn't know about this ?!?
I've wasted my life... *puts all video games since PS2 in garbage can*
A bar is a must. Getting drunk with companions is absolutely necessary. If there's no bar, I'm pre-ordering my cancel.Working bar, and poker table on the ship would also be nice.
I don't want the bar. I'm hoping our character isn't forced to be a drinker of alcohol like they did with Shepard.
. . .I do like Blackjack and Texas Hold 'Em. . .and the thought of taking all of your companion's money is a fun prospect. . .
I would call it: Poker Night at the Cargo Bay. Player invites up to three companions to join them for a game of cards, and they will all exchange banter while playing, and react to their victories and losses.
As long as they let you run up a Tab.
Alt-Tab? 
I prefer Ctrl-Alt-Del myself, so much more final 
I WANT SKYLLIAN FIVE POKER.
You can play with your crew-mates, having unique banter during the game, so on and so on.
I WANT SKYLLIAN FIVE POKER.
You can play with your crew-mates, having unique banter during the game, so on and so on.
Yes! Skyllian Five is another example of a card game that Shepard "plays" without the player ever seeing an actual card. Gather 'round the table and play poker with your shipmates. Listen to 'em chat and more. It would actually feel like you're spending time with your crew.
. . .I do like Blackjack and Texas Hold 'Em. . .and the thought of taking all of your companion's money is a fun prospect. . .
I would call it: Poker Night at the Cargo Bay. Player invites up to three companions to join them for a game of cards, and they will all exchange banter while playing, and react to their victories and losses.
The Telltale Poker Nights are tons of fun and the banter in their games is what makes me want it in Bioware games. I am aware that I am oversimplifying things, but we had our advisers in Inquisition chatting as we looked around a table. Why not just take that and apply it to a game board setting?
I don't want the bar. I'm hoping our character isn't forced to be a drinker of alcohol like they did with Shepard.
To be fair, most adults will drink alcohol at some point in their life, especially soldiers. As someone with an alcoholic father, I understand the aversion to the idea, but I don't remember Shepard ever being forced to drink aside from one or two side missions in ME2. Beyond that, drinking was optional.
For extracurricular activities, my votes would be chess, poker, training Sims (combat and vehicular), and archeological study if you would please, Bioware. Also a verbal loading screen that plays the codex would be good.
Chess and poker would be a good sync for dialogue or characterization that may go otherwise missed or cut due to narrative or resource constraints. Example, what if there were a poker game in the first NMass Effect. Perhaps, Kaidens sexuality might have been divulged at once voluntarily and subtly.
The training SIM could function as a tutorial and a means to acquire abilities, equipment, and experience that might be missed during a play through. A danger room in a manner of speaking. There's also the narrative possibilities, such as that which was demonstrated in Arena in ME3.
Archeological digs and the parsing of the information and materials gathered from those digs are what I would hope would make up a sizeable portion of any unnecessary side content. A mystery to solve, or even better, to discover. Do a combat drop, discover an artifact, find a map you have to figure out how to discover how to decipher, then trace the artifact to its origin, to find loot and clues to the next artifact. Rinse and repeat until some amazing discovery is unearthed(badum tssh) that serves as a new lense to view everything we've done in the game and a bridge to the events of the next game.
Or more space prospecting. Whichever works best, I guess.
Chess and poker are great games that they could use. Combat Sims are also on my list, especially when the competitive element is added to it. The Armax Arena sort of did this, but I'm talking about a side quest based around this.
As for archaeology, I did not consider the idea, but I like it. A searching and digging minigame would be so amazing. It would be great if this could lead to finding weapon upgrades, blueprints, or rare materials.
Instead of Texas Hold 'Em, maybe Batarian Hold 'Em (slight reference to holding slaves), or Scillian Blitz. But yeah, a bar and poker sounds nice.
I think that just a basic casino like on the Silversun Strip would work wonders.
To be fair, most adults will drink alcohol at some point in their life, especially soldiers. As someone with an alcoholic father, I understand the aversion to the idea, but I don't remember Shepard ever being forced to drink aside from one or two side missions in ME2. Beyond that, drinking was optional.
Citadel also had Shepard drinking a few times without any input from the player, or have it so you pay consequences for not drinking like getting less content and appearing to be a jerk. There are several more mentions of you being a drinker with a similar setup. Dragon Age has been doing it as well, so I'm concerned about future games.
I think that just a basic casino like on the Silversun Strip would work wonders.
That'd work fine too 
Hahahaha, you are giving EA ideas for DLC...
I love mini games.
I spent so much time playing Blitzball
Citadel also had Shepard drinking a few times without any input from the player, or have it so you pay consequences for not drinking like getting less content and appearing to be a jerk. There are several more mentions of you being a drinker with a similar setup. Dragon Age has been doing it as well, so I'm concerned about future games.
I get where you're coming from, but I think you need to lighten up. I mean, it's drinking in a video game. There's nothing wrong with drinking alcohol or getting drunk once in a blue moon. I only ever get drunk on my birthday and even that's not a guarantee. And to be fair, as someone who rarely drinks, you will come off as a jerk or a dud for not drinking to most. That's just how most other people are. However, I think faulting a video game for making you drink every now and then might be a step too far.
That'd work fine too
Oh yeah. If the whole Ark thing turns out to be correct, I could see a part of the ship being a sort of makeshift casino.
I've always said we need a bar to chill out. For SP AND MP.
Star Wars Jedi Academy.....melee only on Mos Eisley map was ALWAYS filled with people just chilling....every now and then, lightsaber duels would bust out. But it was just a LOT of fun to hang out when the normal MP and SP got stall.
I was hoping that poker table on the Normandy in ME3 was gonna be used for something.... more minigames would be awesome! The Citadel DLC was a great step in the right direction
Dang, I'd be happy with usable furniture. Bars and playable games would be bonus!
Dang, I'd be happy with usable furniture. Bars and playable games would be bonus!
Usable furniture would be useful for stacking. Since the protagonist loves to be an errand boy, they should get him a part time job.
I get where you're coming from, but I think you need to lighten up. I mean, it's drinking in a video game. There's nothing wrong with drinking alcohol or getting drunk once in a blue moon. I only ever get drunk on my birthday and even that's not a guarantee. And to be fair, as someone who rarely drinks, you will come off as a jerk or a dud for not drinking to most. That's just how most other people are. However, I think faulting a video game for making you drink every now and then might be a step too far.
No, I will not lighten up. I see nothing positive when it comes to drinking, and do not want a character that is supposed to be 'mine' forced to partake of or endorse it. I'm fine with coming off as a dud, but the times you are able to refuse they only give you the "be a jerk about it" option.
No, I will not lighten up. I see nothing positive when it comes to drinking, and do not want a character that is supposed to be 'mine' forced to partake of or endorse it.
See, I agree with you and all, but the thing that always bothers me when people say a character is 'theirs' is that I think them to be only half right: It's your Shepard and you have some level of control over what Shepard does, is from, or likes, but there are other facts about 'your' Shepard which you cannot decide for yourself that are made to be canon.
You can decide Shepard's background. You can decide what Shepard looks like. You can decide who, if anyone, Shepard sleeps with. You can decide if Shepard does this, or does that.
But Shepard is always in the Alliance. Shepard will join Cerberus no matter what. Shepard will always oppose the Reapers. Shepard will become best friends with Liara even if all you did was insult and yell at her throughout the first and second games (I don't get this one either). Shepard is a horrible dancer and is known to go to clubs.
I don't like that my Shepard is best friends with Liara. I wanted to throw her back into that Volcano, or just leave her on the Citadel and let the real heroes go save the Galaxy while the scientist can sit around gawking at rocks and rubble all day. I wanted to shoot her in face during the events of Mass Effect 2, and just get rid of the Shadow Broker entirely. It bothers me to no end that the only way I am able to kill her is for me to be a completely incompetent Shepard and end up getting one of the real companions killed by Harbinger in the process, not to mention screwing the whole Galaxy over in the process. But Shepard and Liara are friends for some reason, and I just have to live with that.
I'd have also liked the choice to not have Shepard be a drinker, but I realize that there are some aspects of Shepard's character that I do not have control over as I understand that Shepard is not 'my' character, but a character that I have some direct control over.
Citadel also had Shepard drinking a few times without any input from the player, or have it so you pay consequences for not drinking like getting less content and appearing to be a jerk. There are several more mentions of you being a drinker with a similar setup. Dragon Age has been doing it as well, so I'm concerned about future games.
Can you give specific examples of this? I just played ME2 and don't remember being 'forced' to drink anything. Maybe in ME3 at the club with James? How was that less content? Different content, sure..
No, I will not lighten up. I see nothing positive when it comes to drinking, and do not want a character that is supposed to be 'mine' forced to partake of or endorse it. I'm fine with coming off as a dud, but the times you are able to refuse they only give you the "be a jerk about it" option.
It's not your character - it's mine.
See, I agree with you and all, but the thing that always bothers me when people say a character is 'theirs' is that I think them to be only half right: It's your Shepard and you have some level of control over what Shepard does, is from, or likes, but there are other facts about 'your' Shepard which you cannot decide for yourself that are made to be canon.
Then they should stop selling the protagonist as such.
Can you give specific examples of this? I just played ME2 and don't remember being 'forced' to drink anything. Maybe in ME3 at the club with James? How was that less content? Different content, sure..
The forced ones are mostly in ME3, particularly in the Citadel DLC. A couple examples is you have it being forced during the party(indirectly) and during the hang out with Kaidan(directly). You get less content in ME2 with the drinking with Dr. Chakwas and the fact a side quest only starts if you do, and during ME3 with if you refuse Chakwas again, with James in the vanilla game, and with the hang out with Ashley. Then in ME2 and ME3 Shepard supports getting drinks in dialogue a few times.
It's not your character - it's mine.
It's Schrodinger's character, as it is everybody's and nobody's at the same time. 
No, I will not lighten up. I see nothing positive when it comes to drinking, and do not want a character that is supposed to be 'mine' forced to partake of or endorse it. I'm fine with coming off as a dud, but the times you are able to refuse they only give you the "be a jerk about it" option.
And I can understand that, but I think you're blowing the whole drinking in Mass Effect way out of proportion. Alcohol is not some demon that will possess you at the first opportunity. Shepard being forced to drink won't suddenly make you want a bottle of whiskey or start pounding Budweiser, and I highly doubt that unless you're a notable livestreamer, no one will misinterpret it as you endorsing the act. Its a virtual alcohol in a fictional universe that is being poured into a fake glass by a digital bartender.
How about this? Do you partake in killing or murder? Do you endorse violence? Does Mass Effect give you a choice? Yes, in some cases, but usually no. No game gives you true control over your character. It only gives you the illusion of choice.
On a purely personal and unrelated to Mass Effect note, I really understand how you feel. I have no idea how old you are, but I've had the same thoughts on alcohol when I was younger. However, my own harsh views on it were the cause of several friendships and relationships falling apart. You might be thinking, "Well if they couldn't stop drinking, then **** them anyways." Maybe you're right, but I was overreacting to something that people just do. Alcohol isn't good or evil, it's just a liquid.
The forced ones are mostly in ME3, particularly in the Citadel DLC. A couple examples is you have it being forced during the party(indirectly) and during the hang out with Kaidan(directly). You get less content in ME2 with the drinking with Dr. Chakwas and the fact a side quest only starts if you do, and during ME3 with if you refuse Chakwas again, with James in the vanilla game, and with the hang out with Ashley. Then in ME2 and ME3 Shepard supports getting drinks in dialogue a few times.
I see, thanks. I don't see why you'd call the Chakwas thing missed content. You get her the bottle first (the quest) and then can decline drinking it with her. Sure, you miss THAT content but you didn't want to see it anyway, so no loss?
Its like that 'quest' with the male elf prostitute in DA2. If you don't go ahead with his offer, you miss content, but if you aren't interested in the content anyway, why worry about it?
I see, thanks. I don't see why you'd call the Chakwas thing missed content. You get her the bottle first (the quest) and then can decline drinking it with her. Sure, you miss THAT content but you didn't want to see it anyway, so no loss?
Its like that 'quest' with the male elf prostitute in DA2. If you don't go ahead with his offer, you miss content, but if you aren't interested in the content anyway, why worry about it?
Or it's like when some content is hidden behind completing a certain set of side missions or collectibles. If you have no intention to 100% a game, you probably will never see it. Do you still care that much?
That being said, considering that you can find almost every scene from a Bioware game on YouTube, are you really missing out on content even if you choose not to partake?
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