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Sasco

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Anyone else having oddities with the Kingfisher's Staff proc?

 

It has Chance to cast Pull of the Abyss On A Hit, when it procs for me it just appears for 1/2 second mobs are semi-pulled and then it disappears, not intended I assume?!



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That's how pull of the abyss works on weapon procs, it just pulls all the enemies together really fast like in a fraction of a second. This is how it was with the Sulevin blade as well, we don't know if it was intended to be like this or not but hey its still a pretty awesome proc as it gets enemies bunched up either way.


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Anyone else having oddities with the Kingfisher's Staff proc?

 

It has Chance to cast Pull of the Abyss On A Hit, when it procs for me it just appears for 1/2 second mobs are semi-pulled and then it disappears, not intended I assume?!

The Sulevin Blade is the only other staff in the game with this proc on it, POTA works differently as a weapon effect. It procs near enough instantly dragging enemies in faster than a regular POTA. I haven't used this staff yet but if it works the same as the Sulevin then it's working as intended.



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Rutg3r

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What are the opinions on this staff anyway? I just looted the Kingfisher yesterday while the day before I looted Scepter of Razikale. I tend to lean to Razikale because of the attack and crit vs the barrier damage bonus. 



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Carbon_Bishop

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I also prefer the Razikale staff for the reasons you mentioned.  I think the extra attack % and crit % on Razikale are enough to surpass the greater DPS provided by the Kingfisher (He said without offering any back up calcs  ;) ).  I also prefer the fade cloak proc to the POtA proc, once you get the hang of knowing when to barrier yourself.



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Anyone else having oddities with the Kingfisher's Staff proc?

 

It has Chance to cast Pull of the Abyss On A Hit, when it procs for me it just appears for 1/2 second mobs are semi-pulled and then it disappears, not intended I assume?!

 

 

I also prefer the Razikale staff for the reasons you mentioned.  I think the extra attack % and crit % on Razikale are enough to surpass the greater DPS provided by the Kingfisher (He said without offering any back up calcs  ;) ).  I also prefer the fade cloak proc to the POtA proc, once you get the hang of knowing when to barrier yourself.

Hey Carbon_Bishop good to see you.  I don't like the fact I can't spam barrier as I please with my keeper/ele with the Razikel so I lean towards the Kingfisher for my barrier mages. late barrier can kill!  


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What are the opinions on this staff anyway? I just looted the Kingfisher yesterday while the day before I looted Scepter of Razikale. I tend to lean to Razikale because of the attack and crit vs the barrier damage bonus.

Lightning sounds better!

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Sasco

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Thanks for the info all, I was thinking it was borked! I play a lot of Frost FC so the cold damage on the staff is a bit annoying 



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Rutg3r

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Hey Carbon_Bishop good to see you.  I don't like the fact I can't spam barrier as I please with my keeper/ele with the Razikel so I lean towards the Kingfisher for my barrier mages. late barrier can kill!  

Can you explain the barrier part please? Either I misread you, or you know something about barriers that I don't. And that is very plausible :) 


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Can you explain the barrier part please? Either I misread you, or you know something about barriers that I don't. And that is very plausible :)

 

If your Fade Cloak proc is still active from Razikale when you cast Barrier on yourself, it won't get applied since you're not technically "there".


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It's more than just Barrier. An active Fade Cloak will negate any buffs you would have received during its duration, and I'm pretty sure Heal on Kill won't apply during a Fade Cloak proc. It actually makes Razikale pretty troll on a Virtuoso.



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thevaleyard

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Heal on Kill works when fade cloaked. I use Razilkale on my Necro and it works great.

 

I use Kingfisher on the AW for the PoTA effect when using SB.



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JiaJM98

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If you use AW with upgraded PoTA does the weakening effect apply to weapon procs as well?

 

I hope it does because Walking Fortress from Hakkon sword works that way on Lego (so u get guard for getting hit), but I'm not sure if this applies to kingfisher as well.



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Rutg3r

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Thanks for the explanation :) Makes sense.