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[Qun00]

Templars phylacteries is a form of blood magic.

The Grey Warden joining is blood magic.

Without blood magic, there are no Grey Wardens, without Grey Wardens, the world is doomed.

Blood magic is simply using blood as a power source, or even a component of a spell.

But templars and grey warden's still aren't actual blood mages.

If they were, sooner or later they'd do something that threatens the well being of other people and themselves.

[Serza]

Redeeming Merrill? Yes please. It's high time people gave the girl a BREAK.

 

I friendmanced Merrill. She doesn't give up Blood Magic... Because she never really touched it in my playthrough. Nu-uh. The spec might be powerful if used correctly, but I never specced into it. She just knows the basics, what she needed to fix the Eluvian. No more.

 

Templars phylacteries is a form of blood magic.

 

The Grey Warden joining is blood magic. 

 

Without blood magic, there are no Grey Wardens, without Grey Wardens, the world is doomed. 

 

Blood magic is simply using blood as a power source, or even a component of a spell. 

 

I think that's why they're "Grey" Wardens.

 

They walk in the shadows to protect the light - do evil things to keep the greater evil at bay. Things like Blood Magic...

 

It is true, however, that Morrigan rightly claims that knowledge itself does no harm...

[TEWR]

Pfeh, are we going to ignore how Inquisition -- and even Solas -- vindicated a lot of what Merrill said and did? Friendship with Merrill is the right path.

 

Those who Rival her are really just engaging in a lot of "I know more then you about ancient Elven stuff" BS.

 

And the Rivalmance itself comes across as being manipulative.

 

Friendship or Friendmance only.

[Serza]

 

She knows. Anders, for all his Circle training and FREEDOOOOM, he never understood as well as Merrill - an Apostate - if such a label should even be used for a First to Clan Mahariel - who strayed from the path and used Blood Magic to uncover a MASSIVE part of the past.

 

For all her mistakes, she never thought that Justice would be a good spirit. She would not make the same mistake.

[SmilesJA]

Merrill not Morrigan should've been the Elven lore adviser in Inquisition.

[Aren]

Templars phylacteries is a form of blood magic.

 

The Grey Warden joining is blood magic. 

 

Without blood magic, there are no Grey Wardens, without Grey Wardens, the world is doomed. 

 

Blood magic is simply using blood as a power source, or even a component of a spell. 

Blood magic isn't mandatory just like the joining to create a GW,this was discussed long ago.

The taint is the only thing you need to create a GW,Becoming a Grey Warden requires a dose of the darkspawn corruption in sufficient potency that it immediately affects someone, rather than slowly enough to sicken them

lyrium,AD blood and the blood magic aren't necessary.

http://forum.bioware...erelden/#576564

there is a post of Gaider in the first page.

 

plus if we have to think in this way evertyhing is blood magic,as lyrium is just  blood of someone else

[Aren]

Merrill not Morrigan should've been the Elven lore adviser in Inquisition.

Yep i would have strongly prefered Merril polite and solar introduction to the elven lore,rather than Morrigan's self righteous attitude of the:

i'm the most qualified of you all fools..

Whenever someone disagree with her,that someone is always a fool for her dictionary.... bah

[Pokemario]

Blood magic isn't mandatory just like the joining to create a GW,this was discussed long ago.

The taint is the only thing you need to create a GW,Becoming a Grey Warden requires a dose of the darkspawn corruption in sufficient potency that it immediately affects someone, rather than slowly enough to sicken them

lyrium,AD blood and the blood magic aren't necessary.

http://forum.bioware...erelden/#576564

there is a post of Gaider in the first page.

 

plus if we have to think in this way evertyhing is blood magic,as lyrium is just  blood of someone else

 

I might have misunderstood what he meant, but didn't he say that Darkspawn blood must be magically treated for the ritual to work?

 

The flaw in your story is that simply drinking darkspawn blood does not make one a Grey Warden. Most likely Joseph would come down with the blight and become a ghoul in short order. The villagers would have found him delerious and sick with fever, and if he survived he would have disappeared one night and never been seen again.

Becoming a Grey Warden requires a dose of the darkspawn corruption in sufficient potency that it immediately affects someone, rather than slowly enough to sicken them. Archdemon blood can be used (though is understandably much rarer), but any darkspawn blood can be magically treated to make it work.

[Pokemario]

Blood magic isn't mandatory just like the joining to create a GW,this was discussed long ago.

The taint is the only thing you need to create a GW,Becoming a Grey Warden requires a dose of the darkspawn corruption in sufficient potency that it immediately affects someone, rather than slowly enough to sicken them

lyrium,AD blood and the blood magic aren't necessary.

http://forum.bioware...erelden/#576564

there is a post of Gaider in the first page.

 

plus if we have to think in this way evertyhing is blood magic,as lyrium is just  blood of someone else

 

David Gaider also clearly states that the Joining is a type of blood magic here: https://www.youtube....XCpKDqFb8#t=460

[Qun00]

Redeeming Merrill? Yes please. It's high time people gave the girl a BREAK.

Merril often does get a break, hence why dozens of people come to her rescue whenever a single person criticizes her decisions.

Heck, both Fenris and Anders are the target of much rage just because they're rude to her.

Um... you've played DAI, right? They do do that. A lot.

Templars constantly used the phylacteries to hunt down and kill mages who want to escape their abuse, and more often than not they abused their power over mages who didn't want to be hunted and killed. (Rape, torture, imprisonment without food, using the Rite of Tranquility for minor offenses like sending love letters to a sweetheart...)

The Grey Wardens constantly threaten the well-being of others in the name of stopping darkspawn too, since "Grey Wardens do what they must to stop the Blight," and the Joining is slowly lethal to anyone who drinks it. In DAI, an intelligent darkspawn then uses the taint they got in the Joining (blood magic) to enthrall the Grey Wardens, and to trick them into thinking they're all experiencing the Calling all at once so they would turn to blood magic and demon summoning out of desperation, which kills a lot of innocent people and almost destroys the Order. Yes, technically they used Grey Warden mages to do the actual blood magic and demon summoning, but not all of the Grey Wardens were mages, but most of them agreed to it because they were all enthralled by the darkspawn blood that they drank in the Joining blood magic ritual.

Non-mages who use blood magic can be dangerous and use it to hurt themselves and others just as much as blood mages can.

I'm with dragonflight288, blood magic is just an alternate way to fuel magic (like mana and lyrium), but it doesn't automatically make you evil or dangerous. Like Merrill said (and Solas, and possibly the Inquisitor), blood magic is just a tool like any other magic; how you use it determines whether you're evil or dangerous.

The negative effects of the Joining are a testimony to abnegation rather than selfish desire, and they don't even come close to common blood magic's destructive potential.

Inquisition's example was never a result of the standard Grey Warden abilities. Foreign arts were necessary in order to twist it into something else.

Darkspawn blood alone could never cause the damage done in DAI. It was merely the way to lead to the actual practice that brings about disaster.

A blade depends on its user. Maybe it will save an innocent's life or threaten a bandit's next victim. But not blood magic. It inevitably will involve making deals with demons or human sacrifices.

Even puppy eyed Saint Merril did it.

[Serza]

And unlike Anders, she never thought it might be harmless. Never thought it was a "good" spirit.

 

It remains to be seen whether Marethari was even correct. Unfortunately, we may never know.

[andy6915]

Pfeh, are we going to ignore how Inquisition -- and even Solas -- vindicated a lot of what Merrill said and did? Friendship with Merrill is the right path.

 

Those who Rival her are really just engaging in a lot of "I know more then you about ancient Elven stuff" BS.

 

And the Rivalmance itself comes across as being manipulative.

 

Friendship or Friendmance only.

 

I know friendship is the right path. But I don't always make my characters share my views, my paragon Hawke definitely came down far harder on blood magic than I personally do. That's what roleplaying is all about.

 

And rival path actually hurts me. Her eluvian was actually functional, but she didn't know it requires some kind of key to open it. She basically made a lock without knowing she made a lock, and didn't know you need to make a key for it to do what it's meant to do. So the mirror she built from a single shard was a fully functioning one, something even Morrigan couldn't manage to do... And she breaks it. Knowing what I know, that hurts. But that paragon Hawke of mine was happy with her breaking it.

[Qun00]

And unlike Anders, she never thought it might be harmless. Never thought it was a "good" spirit.

It remains to be seen whether Marethari was even correct. Unfortunately, we may never know.

She said the demon was polite.

Merril only remembers that there risks when it's for criticising someone else.

[Serza]

She said the demon was polite.

Merril only remembers that there risks when it's for criticising someone else.

 

You speak as if you knew something...

 

Something you deny knowing...