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Shepard's Refusal Leads to Dragon Age


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Blackchibisan

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I know this sounds insane to some and I have done enough research to be sure, and thought I would start here, possibly migrating to the Dragon Age forums, as this is where the story starts. I should start with this bit here to fill in things with information from Dragon Age that people who haven't played it may not be aware of.

 

I will start with the fade and just focus on the parts that lead this into the latter half of the... duo of trilogies? The Fade is a realm of dreams and memories. A realm of the mind. Now within that realm there was a city where a being known as the maker lived. A bunch of mages from the land of Thedas found their way there and were turned into the first Darkspawn. Very simple, very quick. Now, darkspawn appear to be corrupted versions of existing creatures in the land of Thedas. Sound familiar? Once that conversion was made, the city turned black. In Dragon Age, the darkspawn become more dangerous during an event called The Blight, where they find the soul of an Old God. They join it in a hive mind and become more organized because of this. Sound familiar as well?

 

Often times in medieval times a capital city would double as something called a Citadel. It would operate as a seat of power and a fortress for defense. It is my belief that as The Fade is a realm of the mind and The Catalyst is the voice and creator of The Reapers, both organic and machine, that it's mind is the fade. A mind spread and sleeping all over the galaxy. Asari are gifted with the ability to touch the minds of others because of how much element zero they have been exposed to on Thessia. If the mages of Dragon Age are in fact using their abilities because of a primative version of element zero in use. Even if you want to say that The Catalyst is pure machine, we have seen that by entering a state of sleep, which is also backed up by Dragon Age's Fade, one can enter a digital mind and it would appear in a way that makes sense to the visitor.

 

This is just the introduction and a minor bridge from Mass Effect to Dragon Age. The evidence in Dragon Age is far more condemning and convinced me of this. I may bring up the things that don't spoil the story for those that haven't played... or put a spoiler warning on it from this point forward. Not sure, and this is just a theory.(NOT DOING THE THING!) But I have found more than enough proof and wish to elaborate further. I just wanted to enlist the willing into putting the evidence in proper order, and perhaps finding more that I missed.


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Blackchibisan

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Now, this bit is a hint hidden in plain sight, as we all know how much bioware loves to put little easter eggs in their games, including but not limited to Boo the Space Hamster, there are a few easter eggs that are quite telling, one of which was even brought up in an interview. These easter eggs exist in the Stolen Memories DLC for Mass Effect 2, a trophy room in Dragon age inquisition, and a DLC armor for those that pre-ordered Dragon Age.

 

The first one to bring up is the Ogre statue in the trophy room of Hock. Now, this would just seem to be a nod to dragon age, and perhaps it is, but let's look at the overall time scale. The tale of the Tevinter mages happened so far in the past of the Dragon Age universe that the exact details have been lost, meaning it isn't impossible that in its sleeping state, The Catalyst still sought its original purpose, to change organic life into it's weapons. If Ogres are corrupted Qunari, which I will get into the exact nature of those corruptions later, then it would make sense that there would be statues and documentation of their existence. This means even if someone just visited the planet and stole the statue, they would not be considered advanced enough to be of note on a galactic scale. Their planet could be very well lost among the stars, hard to find and despite being rich in resources, not considered worth concerning themselves.

 

Then we move to the Krogan head in the Trophy room in Orlais. We know for a fact that Krogan are long lived and thrive on war, but if the genophage was never cured, then after the grand war for the salvation of the galaxy there would be no way for the wide spread survivors of the krogan to reproduce and spread word of the galaxy as it was. These rare war-like creatures would become beings worth hunting, as their regeneration is notorious already, to a medieval society it would be something truly brag worthy.

 

Finally, there is the Blood Dragon Armor. Now, this was discussed in an interview with the creators and that coversation lead to the seeds of this theory. Feel free to look it up said interview yourself, though if requested I will link to. Now, with the armor in Mass Effect 3, because yes, you can wear it in Mass Effect 3, being heavily damaged its technology would be unsalvagable. Despite that, the materials it is made of would still be very durable, capable of withstanding much abuse over many years. It would become an armor of legend, and only the metal plates would be needed to make Medieval armor. This would mean the Blood Dragon armor originates in Mass Effect 2 and has seen much action beyond that.

 

Again, I will probably continue to flesh this out, but those are the bits that directly effect Mass Effect without getting carried away.



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Addictress

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This is my favorite thread

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KaiserShep

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So are the demons the tormented souls of all the people the reapers harvested? 



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Laughing_Man

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No, just no.

 

I especially dislike the "Magic is actually Biotics" shebang - Magic and Biotics have nothing in common.
 

The Asari ability to meld is a biological function that was never connected directly to biotics.

 

The only connection is that Bioware used a generic end-of-the-world-by-abominations scenario in both cases.



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Here's the question I have right off the bat:

 

All evidence indicates that when the Reapers do their harvests, they wipe out every single individual member of a spacefaring species that they can find, and that they are pretty effective and thorough in doing so. So there shouldn't be any humans post-Refuse, certainly not on Earth which is under siege in ME3.

 

If you want to say Thedas is on some colony world that the Reapers overlooked somehow, well, maybe, but I'm skeptical of the idea that history would get that distorted and misinterpreted, to the point that almost all technological knowledge and the fact that civilization once spanned multiple worlds would be forgotten.



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iM3GTR

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. This is nonsense.



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lol I love this cross over stuff.



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And I thought I had crazy theories about Mass Effect...



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Treacherous J Slither

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Nope!

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It's Jar Jar's fault.