It's a fair point. Harding is nice and she's very pretty in a dorfy way, but there's not a lot of depth there.
That's because she wasn't given hardly any exposition or development, and what was there was very generalized and short. Every other character would be in the same boat under the same conditions.
Because Bioware hate the romance with dwarves.
That's because she wasn't given hardly any exposition or development, and what was there was very generalized and short. Every other character would be in the same boat under the same conditions.
It's not just about her receiving little attention. In my view, the problem is her character concept. Ultimately, she's mundane. The three background NPCs that rose to prominence - Isabella, Merrill and Cullen - either invovled rewrites (Merril is really different) or were more interesting characters from the start (Isabella - sexy pirate queen! - and Cullen - PTSD kill 'em all woobie).
If Lace Harding is mundane then I would like to know what someone like, say, Josephine is. Josephine is mundane and very similar to Cassandra in so many respects. Yet she is a romance option.
If Lace Harding is mundane then I would like to know what someone like, say, Josephine is. Josephine is mundane and very similar to Cassandra in so many respects. Yet she is a romance option.
I found Josephine boring.
I was way more amused by her sister.
Lace Harding is also on the boring side of things ...I mean she used to be a shepard.She's cute , nice , effective.(just like Josi)
But hey DA2 cast was my favorite , everyone was weird , had opinions about stuff , they had their life and their plans .
In DAI well everyone is "effective" , I thought there would be power struggle among the Inquisition , but everybody bows down to the Inquisitor .
Cassandra was also supposed to be a hard a** , but she loose all confidence after calling an Inquisition for some unknown reason.
But anyway the game is designed so you don't butthead with Josi , Cullen and Cass...Leliana it can happen but only at the end.
The game aint about banging everyone you meet no matter how well there writing, i'd rather more resources spent on the actual game an game story than side content
The game aint about banging everyone you meet no matter how well there writing, i'd rather more resources spent on the actual game an game story than side content
I'd say my future Male Dwarf Champion (for example) getting in at least a cute romantic encounter with Harding before heading off into near certain death in a DLC is story content.
EDIT: Also, honestly, I don't really care much about Harding, but I wouldn't mind at all a DLC that heavily involves her and propels her to a better status in the Inquisition then just scouting areas (though she'd do that too). No, she doesn't have any super speshul qualities or talents or dilemmas that go far beyond other people, but I do like how she seems to represent the thing about the Inquisition being fresh and new, wanting to do its part to bring order. There is a starting point there, enough for me imagine her doing something specifically cool in a DLC and even be the dwarf (or one of 2, Maker willing!) companion in DA4. If Bioware wants it.
I'm using mundane in its literal sense. Not everyone thinks being mundane - which is to say not being some super special stand out prodigy or magic ancient god or daughter of magic ancient god - is interesting. I just happen to dislike mundane characters.If Lace Harding is mundane then I would like to know what someone like, say, Josephine is. Josephine is mundane and very similar to Cassandra in so many respects. Yet she is a romance option.
There's a foundation with Harding now that could turn into something relatively more substantial, either in this game's DLC or the next game(s).
As I said, it depends on Bioware.
She was just a peasant who turned out to find a place in the Inquisition and great skills with scouting out locations for future operations. Nice. But I agree, not too much to go on.
But now she has the whole combined experience with the Inquisition in the base game and DLCs so far. Still not a ton, but enough to make a character who we can say has had ties to more things than just 'being a peasant'.
Imagine if there are future dramatics about the fate of the Inquisition. Harding could be written to play a role in that; I think she believes in it and the Inquisitior wholeheartedly, does she not? (even Descent has lines that seem to go that way?)
Stuff could happen.
i totally agree. Harding and Varric should have been romance options for a dwarf inquisitor. i didn't even play as a dwarf due to that. i would have loved to rub it in Bianca's married face that Varric was off limits to her now.
Why Bioware ? She is cute, adorkable and funny. She is voiced by Ali Hillis. She gets along well with everyone. She gives us gifts and calls us by our character's actual surname in Jaws of Hakkon.
Does Bioware have something against Dwarven romance or something ?
They ran the idea past me and I said "no dice". I mean... she's a nice gal but I just don't see romancing her. There's a farm dwarf in Redcliffe she's going home to eventually. Me, I got an Inquisition to run.
Scout Harding is a random peasant who lived in the Hinterlands and signed up when the breach came up. It turns out she was a great scout, which is why she even got the chance to meet the Inquisitor. And that's it. She's a peasant turned soldier who's really good her job.
One could say the same about the protagonist.
Trevelyan is a fourth-born noble and/or mage, Lavellan is just some Dalish elf, Cadash is a street rat and Adaar is a hired thug, who just happened to be in the wrong place at the right time to get a magical mark on their hand and through various shenanigans, eventually become the Inquisitor.
In that regard, how is our story any different from Lace Harding rising from helpful local to lead scout of the entire Inqusition?
Even if I did agree that Scout Harding was mundane or without depth (and I don't), all I would say is "So what?" It's not like people aren't allowed to like her regardless.
Because Bioware hate the romance with dwarves.
I don't think it's so much that they hate the dwarves. It's more likely they've looked at how many people have played dwarves and decided that unless that number increases they're not going to do much with them.
Playing a dwarf isn't a necessary condition for romancing a dwarf.
Playing a dwarf isn't a necessary condition for romancing a dwarf.
Really!? 
Still, if the general interest for dwarves isn't that high, there's no point in developing romances for them. I'm not sure why I had to explain that.
I don't think it's so much that they hate the dwarves. It's more likely they've looked at how many people have played dwarves and decided that unless that number increases they're not going to do much with them.
Yeah, but most people played human in DAO... doesn't mean that many fans liked that we could only be human in DA2?
Besides, there's a difference in wanting to romance a dwarf and wanting to play as a dwarf.
Anyway, numbers can be used to prove anything. Like say, the insane troll logic that because the number of current dwarf romance options is zero and the number of people having played that romance is zero, the numbers show dwarf romances are not popular, so they should not include them!
Wait for DA 4 for your dwarf romance.
I hate to be the one to say it but not every relationship needs to turn into a romance.
Besides, there's a difference in wanting to romance a dwarf and wanting to play as a dwarf.
A general lackluster interest in all things dwarven still is the strongest reasoning behind why they avoided a dwarf romance and merely tested the waters with a bit of flirting. I have yet to see any better theories.
A general lackluster interest in all things dwarven still is the strongest reasoning behind why they avoided a dwarf romance and merely tested the waters with a bit of flirting. I have yet to see any better theories.
If that were the case, then why did they create The Descent? 
Anyway, numbers can be used to prove anything. Like say, the insane troll logic that because the number of current dwarf romance options is zero and the number of people having played that romance is zero, the numbers show dwarf romances are not popular, so they should not include them!
If you throw a party and nobody invited comes, that definitely sends a message no matter how you "play" with the numbers. That's pretty much what's happened with the dwarves. Can't say I blame 'em. The new DLC though makes dwarves more interesting, however.
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