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If ME universe was real, how popular would Interspecies relationship really be?


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#26
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Even though interspecies love certainly would increase a person's (lifeform's) potential dating pool enormously,  it's possible that alien species might have very alien mating rituals and reproductive organs.  And before any of you say "but I'm attracted to the person, not body parts", next time you're on a date with an Elcor, wouldn't you like to know before the end of the evening that it's hoping you'll stick your arm up it's nostril?



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Considering the universe we're being shown, I think Bioware was pretty much accurate to my opinions on the matter.

 

It'd be half half.

 

Pre-ME1 time was glossed over, but it was likely more of a time of majority disapproval of interspecies relationships (attraction would be another matter..).

 

ME1 time is of humanity emerging as bigger galactic powers though, and this somewhat includes the cultural front.

 

It would not be the dominant kind of relationship if at least because of lack of proximity and some concepts of biology, but it'd increasingly happen.

 

Most Citadel species are not alien enough to utterly disregard. They have many humanish language (after translation), mannerisms, etc. They are also all open to discussion and mediation about what is done to each other.

 

While vaguely disturbing and somewhat alien, it is shown that the Citadel species are in many ways (at least from a major perspective) more 'enlightened' than the Alliance and humanity. This includes concepts of consent and sexual discourse.

 

 

Maybe it'd take decades more than the game showed, but I think it would be inevitable. There would be many humans trying to preserve their sense of the human species and culture though, with varying levels of success. But frankly, the at least Asari would be plenty alluring enough to up to millions of human men and women.

 

I don't think many will jump to a relationship with vorcha and volus. I do think many will have relatively asexual relationships with salarians.



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I do think many will have relatively asexual relationships with salarians.

 

Well, I think they're kind of cute.  And they come with those convenient handles in front to pull them close for a snog.


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Would be the end of man.  :)



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If Asari were real, I wouldn't mind.

 

Lesbians would also be happy.



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In a real-life situation I think many humans who are into interspecies relationships and the furry/scaly fandom would be a bit squicked out at first, theirs a difference between game graphics and artwork and what something really looks like in the flesh/fur/scales...etc. Take Turians for example, along with their hard angles and edges and spiky bits, most fan-fiction and erotica writers after doing their research decided in detailing a relationship between Garrus & Shepard to include such things as clawing, biting, "Marking" their love with a bite to the shoulder...etc, that's going to be a deal-breaker for lots of people.

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I'm sure there'd be quite a few people who would want to Kirk their way across the galaxy.

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"IF" the MeUniverse was real, then it'd probably be popular with Asari at the very least. Visually and physically. Personally, I find them the most alien-like race though... the whole psychic connection thing destroys everything I care about romance. The whole "getting to know someone" part.. the exploration.. sometimes it's easy, sometimes it's work.. Either way, it's all gone with an Asari. I couldn't stand it, but I know there are many people who would love to just be instantly grasped like that.


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How much time passes between the discovery of the prothean archive on Mars and actual first contact with an alien species? I'm wondering how long humans had to acclimate themselves to the *idea* of aliens before meeting some actual aliens.



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How much time passes between the discovery of the prothean archive on Mars and actual first contact with an alien species? I'm wondering how long humans had to acclimate themselves to the *idea* of aliens before meeting some actual aliens.

 

From the Wiki timeline:

 

2148 - Mars archive found (2149 - Charon Relay discovered and used)

 

2157 - First Contact War

 

= 9 years.

 

So basically a decade. This assumes that there hasn't been secret knowledge prior to 2148 and alien encounters prior to 2157.

 

In this decade, mass effect technology is rapidly researched and developed, the Alliance is formed, colonization attempts begin, and Arcturus Station and the fleets undergo construction. Element zero is heavily sought after and leads to disasters that have biotic abilities arise in a minority of humanity (though Cerberus may be responsible for some of this, they may be specifically responsible for POST First Contact exposures). Eden Prime and Terra Nova and Demeter, are founded. Demeter is famous for being the first, Terra Nova has the highest population, and Eden Prime is considered a paradise.

 

Both Hackett and Anderson come from a time pre-Mars Archive, so they especially understand how fast humanity has progressed. Shepard is instead born between Mars Archive and First Contact, and he bypasses the First Contact and is only involved with such matters as becoming an N7, then doing the Skylian Blitz with the pirates, Torfan with the batarians, or Akuze with thresher maws, then joining the Normandy. Prior to Shepard, Anderson was an N7 and this played a part in his own story, before becoming Captain and Admiral/Councilman. Hackett was a big part of the First Contact War and was much bigger on exploration and science than Anderson, but the details of his life are more vague.

(EDIT: It appears Shepard may have always participated in the Blitz, though only being prominent in it if a War Hero.)

 

So in about a decade, humanity goes from relatively lazily checking out the Sol system with Luna and Mars colonization and lost expeditions to other systems, to expanding colonization to other systems and building a humanity-dedicated military fleet and researching biotics. Culturally, this would be quite the revolution in technology and I can imagine things like full employment of anyone who can offer the slightest help to advance this endeavor. Boom time, whereas previously, there was interest in space exploration but continuously no strong push for it. "Aliens may exist" became "We have to find aliens". The First Contact wasn't deliberately the Alliance's fault, but the Turians for shooting first without a single question, caring more about any aliens (us) being expansionary (given that the Turians previously had to handle the Rachni and Krogan).



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I think the appeal would be mostly fantasy, as most of the known alien races are physically incompatible with human biology. So those types of interspecies relationships would essentially have to be chaste relationships. If someone were fetishizing aliens, I would assume there's a sexual element to it, so the chaste aspect would quickly dampen enthusiasm.

 

I could see a rise in the alien version of furries, though.



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 The First Contact wasn't deliberately the Alliance's fault, but the Turians for shooting first without a single question, caring more about any aliens (us) being expansionary (given that the Turians previously had to handle the Rachni and Krogan).

Turians never fought the Rachni, they came several hundred years latter well into the Krogan Rebellion and were only able to help because their space was on the opposite side of Krogan territory from the council meaning they weren't ready for an attack in their rear.  After the shock wore off and the Krogan responded the Turian advance ground to a halt in stalemate and the Krogan began pushing them back which is why they used the genophage.

 

As for human and alien relationships their will always be some.  Humans don't just go for biologically appropriate partners.  Looking past homosexual pairings we also have people who develop loving relationships with cripples and dwarfs who should by all right no be attractive for procreation purposes as they are either genetically deficient or ill-suited to help support a family.  Past that their is also bestiality which is a thing were humans have sex with non humans.

 

Also you have to look at it from the view of the aliens.  Asari are all but ordered by they culture to breed with aliens and while the could just choose some random dog or cat they want a partner that they can talk to and raise their daughters with.  So Asari are actively trying to get with aliens and that is going to be huge when you think about it.  Also asari seem to want to please their mates, meaning that turian and quarians are harder physically for the asari, not it breeding but in trying to satisfy their partners sexual needs so they will be happy in the relationship to.  Hannar are very foreign and isolated and Drell have such a small population that I don't see that pair being viable for the billions of asari.  Pressure differential would make it all but impossible for a link with a volus.  So the common asri looking for a partner without having to worry about poison food in the house of bodily fluids if consumed is going to basically be reduced to Elchor, Salarian, Krogan, Human.  With human being the most physically similar and with lifespans 3 times as long as a salrian and not waying a metric ton that could kill you if they fall on you they would become a rather good match as far as a asari is concerned.  After that it would just be a matter of them seducing more isolated and lonely humans working in foreign environments.  I look at the girl from omega in ME2 and how she was swept off her feet by such a beautiful and learned asari taking an interest in her.  I imagine the first to go with the hot aliens would actually be the geeks and nerds who have a hard time getting human partners as they would seem almost like easy prey to the asari.

 

Other races wouldn't be as popular though I can see some quarians and humans who felt isolated getting together if they show some kindness to the quarin on pilgrimage, remember Tali says not everyone returns and though she used to think they just died she was beginning to realize some may just not want to return and they are going to need someone.  Also, quarrians aren't a touchy feely race anyway with their immune system so the biology issue isn't so large as the few time a couple would be intimate would be well thought out and planned ahead of time.



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Thanks and sorry, I had my lore wrong - indeed the Turians did not play a role in the Rachni Wars. They were busy first with colonization and exploration, Unification War, and then finally making contact with the Citadel during the Krogan Rebellions, and using the military build up during the Unification War, the Turians worked to try to turn the tide. Doh.

 

Point still stands regarding Krogan though.



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Thanks and sorry, I had my lore wrong - indeed the Turians did not play a role in the Rachni Wars. They were busy first with colonization and exploration, Unification War, and then finally making contact with the Citadel during the Krogan Rebellions, and using the military build up during the Unification War, the Turians worked to try to turn the tide. Doh.

 

Point still stands regarding Krogan though.

No problem.  Though if the point was that the Turians fired on the humans because they saw them as expansionary like the Krogan then I'm not sure.  The krogan were a expansionist force invading council worlds and displaceing their populations and destroyed several garden worlds with asteroid drops.  The reason the turians fired on the humans was because they were attempting to open a dormant relay into uncharted space.  This is what lead to the rachnai wars in the first place and the council had forbidden anyone from doing it again.  The turian peacekeeping fleet saw some unknown aliens trying to open a sealed relay and likely couldn't tell them to stop as their translators did not have any human languages installed at that time so they fired.  This is why the turians don't seem as bothered by the war as the humans because to them they were completely in the right.


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Brayton made a well thought out post and I agree with most of it. Some stuff I'd disagree with (aka Asari being fetish material), while other stuff needed more added onto it (i.e. salarians who are deemed unfit for reproduction or how turians/quarians are dextro based).
 
But really, I think any romantic relationship is possible between sentient species. Love doesn't require sex (even if it's almost always involved), so that's not going to be a major problem if it comes down to it. Displays of affection already differ among human cultures, so non-human cultures would vary A LOT, but I think humanity could adapt to that. I mean, some human cultures think kissing is gross while most find it pleasurable. If most humans are socialized to enjoy that, than I imagine we could be socialized to enjoy other things too. Plus I think cuddling would be a universally enjoyable activity.
 
A few thousand years down the line, I could imagine human relationships being ranked like this (in terms of most popular to least popular):
 
1) Human
2) Asari
3) Turian
4) Quarians
5) Salarian
6) Hanar
7) Volus
8) Batarian
9) Vorcha
 
The last 4 being incredibly rare, #5 being quite rare, and #2, #3, and #4 being around 15% of all humans total.
 
Personally, I wouldn't mind dating an asari. Melding sounds like a very pleasant experience, and I'd be happy that my partner/daughters get to have such a long life time. I think a turian or quarian is possible if I completely fell in love, but it seems like it'd be too high maintenance. The food difference for both, the infection possibility for quarians, and the hardness/'duty first'/military of a turian. I might be okay with a hanar relationship if he/she was absolutely perfect, but obviously it'd never become sexual.
 
I'd be too intimidated to date a salarian though. I imagine they'd be much smarter than I am, plus faster talking/thinking.


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Virtual reality sex with geth aw yeah.



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Humans be interested in aliens? yeah,maybe the Asari would become a popular choice,though other species like Turians,Salarians or Quarians would be quite rare since they are too different,not to mention all the political bullshit (and between us,it would be weird as hell).Krogan,Vorcha,Volus,Hanar and other "beautiful" races would be almost impossible.

 

Aliens interested in Humans? Yeah,Asari are very similar to humans and the other races seems to find them sexually attractive,so,I guess they would enjoy our females too,not sure about the males though.



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Why can't you find a nice human girl? Instead of dating this tentacle head abomination



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Why can't you find a nice human girl? Instead of dating this tentacle head abomination


How dare you say that about my Twi'leks! I mean, Asari!
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How dare you say that about my Twi'leks! I mean, Asari!

Asari >>>> Twi'lek 

 

Twi'leks have males ;-;



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Asari >>>> Twi'lek

Twi'leks have males ;-;


I know, but who cares?

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Humans only for me thanks.  I don't care what race of humans they are; but I have no interest in "romancing" my dog, IRL.  (Just call me Ashley.)  No point in "romancing" something with dissimilar DNA.  That said, I'd be willing to work out a friendship or be teammates with any individuals from any of the ME species provided they aren't just out to kill me.



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jk though, totally would



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How would our Immune systems cope with Alien Biology? You would probably find not many people willing to have a relationship with an alien if the first time your genitals touched you got a rash or an Anaphylatic shock :P



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How would our Immune systems cope with Alien Biology? You would probably find not many people willing to have a relationship with an alien if the first time your genitals touched you got a rash or an Anaphylatic shock :P

People are surprisingly adaptable.  There was a time when native americans didn't know what a horse was, they didn't exist in the americas but touching them didn't mean they were just going to drop dead.