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[Shampoohorn]

what is worse by the way,
cryo or explosion ammo?

btw, information for your future:
I hoped the shop would have mercy once I reach 255. It turns out this is NOT the case

 

Cryo gives you chances to debuff armor, slow enemies, prime cryo combos and magnify damage output from Conc Shot & Incinerate (& technically Havoc Strike too).  It's better in game.

 

Explosive ammo is only better in the context of the store, since it will never suck up a gold card slot.  You could argue that Cryo III and Cryo IV are nearly equivalent in terms of effect and yet Cryo IV cards block you're acquisition of all the other lvl IV goodies.  I.e. If you ignore and hate both ammos, you should hate Cryo more.

[Oni Changas]

what is worse by the way,
cryo or explosion ammo?

btw, information for your future:
I hoped the shop would have mercy once I reach 255. It turns out this is NOT the case

Explosive, hands down. Max damage of 250 per "explosion" and doesn't debuff or prime or even synergize with certain powers like Cryo does.

[NuclearTech76]

Cryo is the one ammo that will not steal weapon kills or headshots. 

 

Volus Engineer is fun with it for lulz. Efficiency be damned put slow on Recon Mine, Prox Mine, and build a few snowmen with the enemies. 

[capn233]

Cryo Falcon on Drell Vanguard is one of the best.

[Loufi]

what is worse by the way,
cryo or explosion ammo?

btw, information for your future:
I hoped the shop would have mercy once I reach 255. It turns out this is NOT the case

Explosive, by far. At least cryo can shine on characters with Concussive Shot and be decent and / or amusing with some other (kits with Incinerate, the full "I slow down enemies" volus engineer, etc.). I can't find a single character who can be effectively built around explosive ammo. 

 

And yep, the store is stupid.

[NuclearTech76]

Cryo Falcon on Drell Vanguard is one of the best.

You must punch stuff in the face with this build I think it's written in the Drell bylaws. 

[Miniditka77]

This is a build I was toying around with for Cryo Ammo:  Adas Krogan Sentinel.

 

I really didn't get it to work well, because I'm terrible with the Adas, but after I gave up on it, I saw someone else using basically the same build and doing pretty well with it.  The idea is that the Adas can take care of shields, prime well with Cryo Ammo, and stagger when necessary, and Incinerate spam will take care of armor.  

[MaxCrushmore]

Try switching the weapon on your Hsol to an Acolyte, works way better for the concussive shot build than the falcon IMO

 

And also IMO, disruptor ammo is superior to cryo ammo on the GT/acolyte

[physiolosopher]

...Unfortunately because of the incendiary glitch, incendiary ammo is better on most kits that have incinerate, and makes freeze combo kind of pointless (except maybe on the QFE).

 

Even if you specialize in incendiary cheesing with incinerate having a build or two based on freeze combo is good for tech teams with lots of detonator powers. If someone manages to detonate an FE with your incinerate the bugged no-damage FE DOT absorbs incendiary DOT if I understand that mechanic correctly. There is also a case to be made that the spike damage of a chilled incinerate is situationally more valuable than a powerful, yet delayed, DOT. This is especially true for humanoids which are the bulk of the enemy force on anything below platinum. Cryo rounds also benefit helpless pugs more by weakening armor and slowing movement speed. The kind of pugs that put a scope and ULM on an smg with explosive rounds rounds in a preset reapers match.

[The NightMan Cometh]

I always try to find characters / weapon combos that justify using cryo ammo above a bronze solo...even the cryo soldier...but..ummmm...nope, just nope....Even if I equip them in a silver lobby..I feel stupid  ( yes, I still play silver & yes, I do equip stuff I never use LOL Targeting VI 1 )..so nope, just nope...stack em until 255 across the board then just leave them....nope, just nope.

[7twozero]

Acolyte and csmg on the human cryo soldier, skip adrenaline rush, take grenade gear and a power amp. Absolutely destroys organics. It's my number one played setup. A lot of people here have seen me play it.

 

Just wanted to add that I played a game during lunch just now with this setup, full team of pugs on glacier gold cerberus, got 244k using level 1 consumables.

[TheNightSlasher]

Besides the cryo HSol,

 

Adas QFE

Acolyte Justicar

[ReadingRambo220]

Its kinda silly, but I really like it on Destroyer/PPR. It freezes the mooks for even easier head shots, the hydra missiles hit easier, and I just like the idea of a super chilled ice beam, reminds me of Metroid.

I wouldn't take it to platinum, but it works reasonably well on gold (assuming a decently leveled PPR) and is fun as hell on silver.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

^^^^^
This is a good one.  Every tech combo in play at all times.  So much destruction.  So much noise.


Turian Soldier with Krysae is a fun build.  The krysae's delay and concussive shot's cooldown time nearly perfectly with each other.  Alternate between them three times, then autoreload with marksman and get three fast krysae shots.  One of the two ways to make the krysae fun again (along with the salarian infiltrator).

 

And I usually put cryo on my melee krentinel.  CryoGraal+incinerate really softens up armored targets for the final punch.

 

That last one is another favorite of mine for cryo ammo. Cyro on Krentinel is really useful for landing super-powered melees on those pesky armored foes, especially Brutes, Goons, Ravagers and Turrets. I mean, you can use warp for that too, but Cryo + Incinerate followed by MMRRRAAGGGHAHAHAHA is extremely effective at all levels of difficulty and really quite fun. Off-host I prefer the GPS, on-host, Graal's the way too go for sure.

[justinman114]

My buddy Killacat's favorite build (or as much of it as I can remember, I might have a few skills incorrect).

 

http://kalence.drupa...!43O5..24!G3DBG

 

It may look weird but he makes it work trust me.  I disagree with him on a few of his skill choices but he goes for quick cooldowns and lots of explosions, rather than more powerful ones.  The Cryo Falcon just adds to the fun.

 

Oh, and in case anyone hadn't posted something similar, which I'm sure they have but I don't have time to read it all right now, here's one of my personal favorites.

 

http://kalence.drupa...!34N54324!.E0EG

[7twozero]

Anything with pull and cryo is automatically funny regardless of effectiveness.

[The NightMan Cometh]

Edited: cuz the post above me was removed...but I still dont like cryo ammo.

[Akir388]

I love using cryo ammo on the FQE with either the Acolyte or Adas. 

[Caineghis2500]

I just wish you could convert unwanted ammo types into others 

[The NightMan Cometh]

This is where I would post a SMH gif.

[valium]

^^^^^
This is a good one.  Every tech combo in play at all times.  So much destruction.  So much noise.


Turian Soldier with Krysae is a fun build.  The krysae's delay and concussive shot's cooldown time nearly perfectly with each other.  Alternate between them three times, then autoreload with marksman and get three fast krysae shots.  One of the two ways to make the krysae fun again (along with the salarian infiltrator).

 

And I usually put cryo on my melee krentinel.  CryoGraal+incinerate really softens up armored targets for the final punch.

you sir, would get a headbutt from me

[Alfonsedode]

Maybe its worse saying again the cryo soldier is the best cryo ammo user against organics : thread with build and discussion

 

quote about concussive shot:"

With Shredder and Shatter, against frozen/chilled organics you're talking about 1000 initial damage, and 2000 damage dealt over 10 seconds, total of 3000 damage! For a power that you can spam every 1.5 to 2 seconds, this is no small deal. Best part is that the DOT stacks much like Reave.

Finally, Concussive Shot gets a 4X multiplier vs Barriers. If we factor in Shredder and Shatter, it would be a whopping 4000 initial damage, and 8000 damage over 10 seconds vs chilled Barriers, total of 12 000 damage! Deadly against Collectors, Phantoms, and Banshees."

[Loufi]

Maybe its worse saying again the cryo soldier is the best cryo ammo user against organics : thread with build and discussion

 

quote about concussive shot:"

With Shredder and Shatter, against frozen/chilled organics you're talking about 1000 initial damage, and 2000 damage dealt over 10 seconds, total of 3000 damage! For a power that you can spam every 1.5 to 2 seconds, this is no small deal. Best part is that the DOT stacks much like Reave.

Finally, Concussive Shot gets a 4X multiplier vs Barriers. If we factor in Shredder and Shatter, it would be a whopping 4000 initial damage, and 8000 damage over 10 seconds vs chilled Barriers, total of 12 000 damage! Deadly against Collectors, Phantoms, and Banshees."

In video :

 

 

At 19:20-19-25, you can see that 1 Acolyte shot + 1 Concussive Shot = a gold Banshee's barrier destroyed (almost, because I had a pistol amp 1 only).

[xelander]

The CryoThrow Sentinel is a classic, or any kit with a spammable detonator.

 

If you are feeling less cheesy, switch the lolcolyte/Hurrdurr combo for a pellet shotgun, something like the Disciple, for example.

[Geth Supremacy]

I wish they capped.  They should.  If they can cap missiles then why couldn't they cap those?

 

I've been on a huge Turian kick lately.  I've been using them on the Soldier/Sentinel and the Destroyer (Lancer) when I switch off.