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Sith Grey Warden

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It was odd to have DA2's protagonist called Hawke when Leandra or either sibling was present. Even stranger was the approach in DAI. Never once does the Herald introduce him/herself as "Adaar" or what have you, but others will use those names. How did they first learn that my dwarf was named Cadash or that my elf was called Lavellan? Even the Warden eventually got problematic with it as a Dalish Warden is referred to as Mahariel by his clan in DA2.

 

We get all this trouble so you can select a first name that is never used. At least in DAO, your Warden could use the first name since (s)he wasn't voiced. And back in KOTOR (where neither first nor last name was fixed), there were aliens who used your name in translation. But that's not the case anymore. I'm struggling to remember the first name of my current Inquisitor (a female Trevelyan; I'm not sure if I used the default name). Can you guys remember the first names of your Inquisitors and Hawkes? Was the selection of a name that never gets used worthwhile? I would want to see a set first name because it would avoid unnecessary tiptoeing, and I don't think we'd lose much.


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Yes, please.

 

Given so many things that just have to be fixed in order to maintain a voiced protagonist, I have no objections with having a predefined name.

 

It is just getting ridiculous at this point, a sort of Uncanny Valley for immersion; and I don't need the RPG-token of typing a few letters which are regarded one single time the very moment they are typed, and then never again for the rest of the save file's lifetime.

 

Don't get me wrong, I would obviously like naming my own character if some magical technology makes every NPC utter it without a VA who brute-forces every possible combination; but until that happens, I can do without another game in which someone calls me "Inquisitor". What an ugly, cumbersome, unmelodic word that is.


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It acts as a way to differentiate between your characters. I have two warriors, both the same level, saved in the same area, and I've played them both for the same amount of time. The name helps me with knowing which is which... unless I've named them the same name.

 

Sure, it would be nice to be referred to by the name I choose, and it's doable because Fallout 4 has recorded a ton of names so that, should you happen to pick one of them, you will actually be called that by other characters. It's something that can be done.

 

However, having a set first name I don't think is the best idea.


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No, I like picking my own name. Half the story occurs in my head anyway. I never even got into calling my characters by their surnames as people do: "my Lavellen, my Cousland, femHawke, dudeHawke"  - they have no appeal for me. I prefer an unvoiced protagonist, but I won't let a voiced one keep me from enjoying the game.


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But if the protagonist has a set name, how can I continue my tradition of naming my canon character Bruce?  :crying: I gotta have Bruce, man!


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Can you guys remember the first names of your Inquisitors and Hawkes? Was the selection of a name that never gets used worthwhile?

 

It's very worthwhile for me, yes. I can't imagine how I would distinguish internally between all my Hawkes if they didn't have different first names! I've got eight, and I'm in no danger of forgetting them: Morgan, Abigail, Lucas, Dana, Susannah, Gideon, Michael and Marian are all very different characters to me. I'd hate to have to think of them as 'the blond one' and 'the brunette that can't keep his stupid mouth shut.' It's not quite as much of an issue with the Inquisitor since they can have four different surnames, but I'm still likely to end up with two female Trevellyans.

 

There's certainly a compromise in choosing a name that the game can't use in any voiced dialogue, but it's a compromise I'm willing to live with in order to be able to tell my characters apart.


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"Lord Trevelyan" sounds good enough. I need to create the first name at least to identify different playthroughs.


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I always thought naming your characters was an important part of starting an RPG; it helps to personalise the character and make it yours, almost like personalising the appearance of your character.

 

I haven't noticed any oddities with NPCs calling my character by her last name, or a title, or saying "my friend".


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I certainly think in MEA or if Dragon Age ever goes back to only a human protagonist it would make complete sense to go for a fixed first name.

It seems much trickier in DA games where there are multiple races where there's no way to get a fitting name that spans all those origins. If they could accomodate a fixed name for each origin that might work, though that might be a lot of work.



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If there were like, 5 names or sth to choose from and npcs would call us by one we choose, I admit that I would like that.

But one set name? No. Nah. I don't approve, since I have like 9 characters in each DA game, and all of them being named "Marian" or "Garett" would just be crazy. 

Also, choosing first name is really really important for some people.  :P



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I think part of the appeal of creating your character in this game is also naming him/her, so I have to disagree with you on that... I do think it's lame that they rarely used your actual static last name though... I did get tired of hearing my companions call me "Inquisitor" or "Herald" at every interaction, even though you're supposedly friends with them. I think the biggest annoyance is your LI still referring to you as Inquisitor. Who refers to their significant other as their title and not their name on a regular basis? 

 

I think they should've had it where strangers, soldiers, and enemies(people you deal with on a professional level) call you Inquisitor and something more casual (last name possibly?) that people you were close to referred to you as. 


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No, I want to be able to continue to give my protagonist any name I wish. That way it is personal and I bond with them. It really is part of the creation process.

I don't mind having assigned last names, that's fine.


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I think part of the appeal of creating your character in this game is also naming him/her, so I have to disagree with you on that... I do think it's lame that they rarely used your actual static last name though... I did get tired of hearing my companions call me "Inquisitor" or "Herald" at every interaction, even though you're supposedly friends with them. I think the biggest annoyance is your LI still referring to you as Inquisitor. Who refers to their significant other as their title and not their name on a regular basis? 

 

I think they should've had it where strangers, soldiers, and enemies(people you deal with on a professional level) call you Inquisitor and something more casual (last name possibly?) that people you were close to referred to you as. 

 

That's really why i'd be in favour of some sort of fixed first name. It sort of got away with it where surname was catchy almost forename(Hawke, Shep), though by end of ME3 it started to feel forced that no one would refer to character by his/her name, they even made a joke out of it with Chakwas.



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But if the protagonist has a set name, how can I continue my tradition of naming my canon character Bruce?  :crying: I gotta have Bruce, man!

 

Do people want to know your characters... secret identity?


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Yes, please.

 

Given so many things that just have to be fixed in order to maintain a voiced protagonist, I have no objections with having a predefined name.

 

It is just getting ridiculous at this point, a sort of Uncanny Valley for immersion; and I don't need the RPG-token of typing a few letters which are regarded one single time the very moment they are typed, and then never again for the rest of the save file's lifetime.

 

Don't get me wrong, I would obviously like naming my own character if some magical technology makes every NPC utter it without a VA who brute-forces every possible combination; but until that happens, I can do without another game in which someone calls me "Inquisitor". What an ugly, cumbersome, unmelodic word that is.

 

This X100. I always use the default name anyway. I really don't know why people are so attached to custom-naming their characters.



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Wait, did I mention that...

 

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It acts as a way to differentiate between your characters. I have two warriors, both the same level, saved in the same area, and I've played them both for the same amount of time. The name helps me with knowing which is which... unless I've named them the same name.

 

Sure, it would be nice to be referred to by the name I choose, and it's doable because Fallout 4 has recorded a ton of names so that, should you happen to pick one of them, you will actually be called that by other characters. It's something that can be done.

 

However, having a set first name I don't think is the best idea.

 

 

I have to agree on this. It sure is possible to have all the most popular names recorded in the game like Fallout 4 does, but it would take tremendous time and effort to pull this off, and while Bethesda managed to do this because they largely still functions like an indie studio, I doubt that Bioware (at least currently under EA's wing) would have the time and budget for this.

 

However, I do think giving the main character a nickname related to their last name like Shepard did in ME (Shepard itself had become a nickname for... commander Shepard lol) would be a good middle ground.



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I have to agree on this. It sure is possible to have all the most popular names recorded in the game like Fallout 4 does, but it would take tremendous time and effort to pull this off, and while Bethesda managed to do this because they largely still functions like an indie studio, I doubt that Bioware (at least currently under EA's wing) would have the time and budget for this.

 

However, I do think giving the main character a nickname related to their last name like Shepard did in ME (Shepard itself had become a nickname for... commander Shepard lol) would be a good middle ground.

 

Did think that maybe a fixed nickname might be a good compromise.


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What you mean it was weird when someone Shepard's known for years and just slept with tells them 'I love you Shepard'?    /s

 

I agree. If they're going for voiced protagonists they might as well have fixed first name and last name. Going to be a lot more natural then. People with enough imagination to hear dialogue in their head can still have imaginary first names, which is what we're doing these days anyway.


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It acts as a way to differentiate between your characters. I have two warriors, both the same level, saved in the same area, and I've played them both for the same amount of time. The name helps me with knowing which is which... unless I've named them the same name.

 

Sure, it would be nice to be referred to by the name I choose, and it's doable because Fallout 4 has recorded a ton of names so that, should you happen to pick one of them, you will actually be called that by other characters. It's something that can be done.

 

However, having a set first name I don't think is the best idea.

 

Then how about letting you set the LAST name? No stupid contrivance of everyone calling you your last name (even your best friends and lovers), you get to differentiate your characters like you want: Everyone wins. The current method is stupid.


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I'd be okay with it. I'd like her to be called by her first name, though I was okay with "Hawke" because it was a cool "nickname" anyway. But I'd be okay with a set first name- though maybe give me choices and don't name her something like Hilda or Bertha. (Though those are perfectly lovely names, if anyone here has that name)



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Only if the pre-set name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, and we're given a chance to introduce ourselves constantly.


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I'm struggling to remember the first name of my current Inquisitor (a female Trevelyan; I'm not sure if I used the default name). Can you guys remember the first names of your Inquisitors and Hawkes?

Really? I think you're the only person who doesn't remember your character's name. How do you forget? It says it every time you pause or look through the inventory, or when you load or save and in codex entries. That's hard to miss.

 

Anyway, I'd like to name my own characters. It goes a long way to differentiate between them and to connect with them. I wouldn't be against them adding voice-work for certain names like Fallout 4, but I'd like to choose, either way. While it was a bit odd being referred to as "Hawke" with your family there, it was more like a nickname. I had no problems with being called "Shepard", especially considering it was a military environment.

 

I do have to say though, I don't overly enjoy being called "Inquisitor" and I hate being called "Your Worship". Ugh. Not just because my character doesn't think she's the Herald, but also because even if she did, it's not only too formal, but also puts too much praise unto her in her opinion. I cringe every time someone says it. I'd much rather at least your Inner Circle call you "Trevelyan" etc.


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