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#51
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I don't understand people who don't wan set first name. We already have set name. Warden, Hawke, and Inquisitor names Human – Trevelyan

Elf – Lavellan Dwarf – Cadash Qunari – Adaar. So whats the problem? We just want character have better name not Hawke Hawke. We not asking don't let us give name to save file. We ask give set first name because second set name sound stupid when you talk with your close friends.



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In a story based RPG like this I'd agree that having a pre-set first name is a good idea. Naming your character works in a game like Elder Scrolls but when characters are calling you by your title, people who are supposed to be lovers/close friends etc., and not by your name it does seem a little bit off.

If there was more options to how our characters can react to situations, background, showing emotion etc. then naming the character would have more meaning. But right now, options are pretty limited, our character is just "The Inquisitor" rather than who we want it to be.


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No. Because--even with the other good points in this thread against (most of which I agree with) the "default" names are often awful.

Evelyn Trevelyan? Really?

Now, don't get me wrong. I love the name Evelyn (my daughter's second name, in fact) but not with that surname. Please.



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I actually find the idea of a set first name, but a flexible surname (as some here suggested) interesting.



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No. I hate the idea. I love give different names to my characters, and I usually find those in the Sindarin dictionary. A fixed name, or a set of names, would take away the pleasure of finding the right name For my characters.
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No. I hate the idea. I love give different names to my characters, and I usually find those in the Sindarin dictionary. A fixed name, or a set of names, would take away the pleasure of finding the right name For my characters.

But we already have set name. Hawke. Trevelyan, Lavellan, Cadash, Adaar.



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But we already have set name. Hawke. Trevelyan, Lavellan, Cadash, Adaar.

Those are surnames. Family names. I don't care For those. But the name of my characters are Darel, Gwath, Amrod, Coru, Maethorn, Tithen. None are names that would ever be there to choose if preset.

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But we already have set name. Hawke. Trevelyan, Lavellan, Cadash, Adaar.


Then you should be totally happy, right?
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I don't even like the idea that we have a set last name to be honest.

 

Why do people always ask for greater restrictions on roleplaying here?


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Then you should be totally happy, right?

No I already say having name Hawke Hawke is stupid. But yes DA much better. But still we don't have real name.



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How about letting the player create his own character? Its kind of the point of an rpg, to begin with. Create your own character.



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No I already say having name Hawke Hawke is stupid. But yes DA much better. But still we don't have real name.


You have whatever name you give your character. They have last names/titles for the NPCs specifically to use, the first names are for us to use to differentiate saves/builds/romances and on and on. I suppose the next step is "Can we get the game to play itself, so I don't have to be bothered with that either"?

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I just wish they'd use my DAI characters' surnames more often. Why bother adding them for voice acting purposes and only use them maybe twice in the game? No set first name please, but use the set surname far more often if it's going to be a set one.


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No. Nope. No way. No. No. No.



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How about letting the player create his own character? Its kind of the point of an rpg, to begin with. Create your own character.

 

To me creating my own character and roleplaying has nothing to do with his/her name. It's about character design, personality, and decisions made in game. The name is irrelevant and it's actually immersion breaking from a role playing perspective to be constantly referred to by your title or surname. 


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To me creating my own character and roleplaying has nothing to do with his/her name. It's about character design, personality, and decisions made in game. The name is irrelevant and it's actually immersion breaking form a role playing perspective to be constantly referred to by your title or surname.


Man, 1/2 my life was immersion breaking, since I was known more by my surname or rank, while I was in the military.
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Sometimes it makes sense, sometime it doesn't. It did make sense for Varric to call you Hawke even when the sibling was around, expecially if the sibling was Carver. I believe there even is a banter where they talked about it. It made less sense for your love interest to call you by surname but still I believe it's a minor issue and to me they fixed it in Legacy, where Anders finally gives up the Hawke thing and starts calling you "love".

For the Inquisitor, I think the surname is even more appropriate: nobody is going to call me by name because we are not friends. Maybe we will be by the end of the story, but we won't be at the beginning and there always be a level of formality.

Plus, lots of people play around with the name or use it to remember who's who. I think it would be a pity to deprive them of this feature.



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Man, 1/2 my life was immersion breaking, since I was known more by my surname or rank, while I was in the military.

 

Except most of us are not in the military and go by our first names instead of surname. Even taking the inquisitor out of the equation, it definitely makes no sense for your close friends/LIs to be referring to you as Hawke, particularly when you have plenty of family around, or for your companions in Origins to refer to you as Warden, particularly when you have other wardens around.

 

ETA: I'm not fully understanding the using it to differentiate saves argument either. This can easily be fixed with a default name if they let you edit the name of the collection of saves for each character rather than relying on the character's name to differentiate them (IE: Name the collection of saves for one character, "Canon," another "Mage Romance Iron Bull," etc). I get that some people see it as somehow integral to their RP experience, but the "I use it to differentiate" saves argument seems like a logical fallacy as it can easily be overcome and I'm sure the devs would take that into account if they were to take away first name customization. Or they could just display save file collections by a character's avatar instead of the name so you'd easily know which character is which. See, easy. Lots of ways around it.



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I honestly don't feel a thing with what they call me. Warden/Hawke never broke immersion for me and I never actually stopped to think about it. Don't know why it gets to so many people.

 

I get called by my last name a lot (Diggs - it's just one of those names, I guess).  So Marian being called Hawke doesn't bother me at all. 

 

I treat Hawke differently than the Warden and the Inquisitor.  They get different names but Hawke is always Marian Hawke for me (I always play her as female, and don't alter her default look).  I guess I treat Hawke more like a static character rather than your traditional RPG char.  However, I do vary her class and choices when I play the game.  



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No.

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It was odd to have DA2's protagonist called Hawke when Leandra or either sibling was present. Even stranger was the approach in DAI. Never once does the Herald introduce him/herself as "Adaar" or what have you, but others will use those names. How did they first learn that my dwarf was named Cadash or that my elf was called Lavellan? Even the Warden eventually got problematic with it as a Dalish Warden is referred to as Mahariel by his clan in DA2.

 

We get all this trouble so you can select a first name that is never used. At least in DAO, your Warden could use the first name since (s)he wasn't voiced. And back in KOTOR (where neither first nor last name was fixed), there were aliens who used your name in translation. But that's not the case anymore. I'm struggling to remember the first name of my current Inquisitor (a female Trevelyan; I'm not sure if I used the default name). Can you guys remember the first names of your Inquisitors and Hawkes? Was the selection of a name that never gets used worthwhile? I would want to see a set first name because it would avoid unnecessary tiptoeing, and I don't think we'd lose much.

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No, just no. People want customization... so the technology should be moving in the direction of recognizing names and pronouncing them in the *insert voice actors name here* voice. Until then, last names or titles are fine. I was called by nothing but my last name in school, it never bothered me. Plus, the first names make save game management easier. 



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People want customization... so the technology should be moving in the direction of recognizing names and pronouncing them in the *insert voice actors name here* voice.

 

Oh heck no. I think it will always sound robotic, no matter how good the technology gets. But maybe that's just me being pessimistic.



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Oh heck no. I think it will always sound robotic, no matter how good the technology gets. But maybe that's just me being pessimistic.

 

That's just you being pessimistic. just%20kidding_zpsifmxeiep.gif


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Except most of us are not in the military and go by our first names instead of surname. Even taking the inquisitor out of the equation, it definitely makes no sense for your close friends/LIs to be referring to you as Hawke, particularly when you have plenty of family around, or for your companions in Origins to refer to you as Warden, particularly when you have other wardens around.


While it was predominate in the military, it also happened in school. I have a very common name, obviously, Robert. In school, and in my group of friends, where we had 3 Roberts, it was easier to keep track. There is nothing immersion breaking about it to me, since I still have people in my life that "forgot" I had a first name, and even my first wife tended to call me by my surname, at times. When she used my first name most of the time, I knew I was in trouble for something...
 

ETA: I'm not fully understanding the using it to differentiate saves argument either. This can easily be fixed with a default name if they let you edit the name of the collection of saves for each character rather than relying on the character's name to differentiate them (IE: Name the collection of saves for one character, "Canon," another "Mage Romance Iron Bull," etc). I get that some people see it as somehow integral to their RP experience, but the "I use it to differentiate" saves argument seems like a logical fallacy as it can easily be overcome and I'm sure the devs would take that into account if they were to take away first name customization. Or they could just display save file collections by a character's avatar instead of the name so you'd easily know which character is which. See, easy. Lots of ways around it.


So to accommodate your desire, they should make it where we have to do more "work", editing save files, so that you can have a fixed first name? When I create a character, I create a unique first name, it's part of the process. When I intended to do a rift mage, I named it Riftina, so that I could differentiate it from my KE. I have 7 games running, some completed, and it's sure a lot easier for me to go down the names when I feel like playing a certain one. I'm not keen on the idea of all my characters being Will or Wilamina in order to accommodate someone else's idea of what dialog in a game should be, especially when this argument was presented in ME, where Commander would be the usual goto name, and Shepard, or a variant, was the nickname used by the main crew/close friends. I don't find it odd at all, given my military experience, that people would actually do that.

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To me creating my own character and roleplaying has nothing to do with his/her name. 

 

I'm just the opposite: for me, roleplaying literally starts with the name.  I spend a great deal of time picking potential names for my characters--sometimes even before the game drops!  I usually don't make a final decision until after I see my character: it's important to me that the name "goes with" the face, even though it only makes sense to me.  It's an essential part of the character for me.  I can not only remember the names of all my Inquisitors, but all my Hawkes and all my Wardens, as well--even most of my KOTOR and KOTOR2 characters (those were my first RPGs)!

 

I could definitely get behind a voiced nickname: I agree that would mitigate the impersonality of a lover calling your character by their last name--or worse, their title.  

 

Of course, I understand it's different in a game like The Witcher: there, I'm playing a pre-created character, so it doesn't matter as much to me that I don't get to choose their name either.  But for games like these where you create your own character, I'd really like to keep the option of choosing my own name.  


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