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[Giantdeathrobot]

A way to work around it is to have a set first name, and a last name you can customize, along with a title of some sort. As such, people who are formal with you adress you via your title, those who are more friendly use the first name, and custom last name enables you to distinguish characters.

[CrabbyCrackers]

naaa, what i would like more of, is being asked questions from party members , with different choices, that way your pc feels more involved with people and not a 3rd wheel, and depending on how you answer can effect the way your seen or personality, such as,

question, when did you find out you were a mage..  when i brought  a bird back to life .. effect maybe your a healer or gain a healing spell,  or answer this way,  when i brought back a bird from the dead to peck the eyes out of my nana.... affect, perhaps a nerco spell is gained. and or templars  in your circle tower are more strict with you.

 make sence?

[Ariella]

No, this is not the Witcher. This is my character.

And while we know what FO 4 is doing with given names, we don't know if it'll work out well.

Inflection would seriously suffer, and it's got the potential to be distracting at best, immersion destroying at worst.

[correctamundo]

No. That day would be a sad day.

[caradoc2000]

We need an Enchanter named Tim.

[9TailsFox]

No, this is not the Witcher. This is my character.

And while we know what FO 4 is doing with given names, we don't know if it'll work out well.

Inflection would seriously suffer, and it's got the potential to be distracting at best, immersion destroying at worst.

No It's not your it's Biowares character you can only play as Warden, Hawke, Or Inquisitor. No mater what you call your save file everyone will call you as Bioware want.

[Heimdall]

Choosing a name is important to creating a sense of uniqueness and ownership over a character. I'd much prefer to keep the option.

[Fearsome1]

The Warden and Hawke both clearly had default first names regardless of race or gender. Whether you chose to retain those during the Character Creator or change the first name was up to the player.

 

If I'm not mistaken, each Inquisitor also has a default first name (again whether you choose to retain it or select your own), so I'm struggling to figure out what the original poster is going on about?

[Ashaantha]

The Warden and Hawke both clearly had default first names regardless of race or gender. Whether you chose to retain those during the Character Creator or change the first name was up to the player.

 

If I'm not mistaken, each Inquisitor also has a default first name (again whether you choose to retain it or select your own), so I'm struggling to figure out what the original poster is going on about?

 

I believe the op means a first name set for voice acting, instead of solely being called by the protagonist's surname or title, having close friends (companions etc) or romances calling the protagonist by a set first name, instead of their title etc.

[Paxwell]

For what it's worth, I place my vote for not having a set first name.  In fact, I'm usually bothered by having a set last name as well.  I love games with character creators, and play through such games a second time with a different character with a different outlook that colors what they do.  Part of that necessary customization is, naturally, choosing your own name.

[BloodyTalon]

Fred for males, Lucy for females works for me

[robertthebard]

Fred for males, Lucy for females works for me

If we're going with Lucy, then it has to be Ricky for males, otherwise my childhood will be all messed up...

[correctamundo]

Why some kind of anglo-american name? Finnish are way cooler! Riku and Liisa.

[Fearsome1]

Rather than stress over this, perhaps we should encourage Bioware to follow Sera's example of pet names for the main character (although "teetness" leaves much to be desired)?

 

Beloved / Dear / Honey / Darling / etc.

[9TailsFox]

Rather than stress over this, perhaps we should encourage Bioware to follow Sera's example of pet names for the main character (although "teetness" leaves much to be desired)?

 

Beloved / Dear / Honey / Darling / etc.

Well I am fine with lord blooming's.

[TheBlackAdder13]

So to accommodate your desire, they should make it where we have to do more "work", editing save files, so that you can have a fixed first name? When I create a character, I create a unique first name, it's part of the process. When I intended to do a rift mage, I named it Riftina, so that I could differentiate it from my KE. I have 7 games running, some completed, and it's sure a lot easier for me to go down the names when I feel like playing a certain one. I'm not keen on the idea of all my characters being Will or Wilamina in order to accommodate someone else's idea of what dialog in a game should be, especially when this argument was presented in ME, where Commander would be the usual goto name, and Shepard, or a variant, was the nickname used by the main crew/close friends. I don't find it odd at all, given my military experience, that people would actually do that.

 

I fail to see how creating a name for a save portfolio for each character is more work than assigning each one a custom name -- but ok. For instance, if I were in your situation, I could name a save portfolio "Rift Mage" and "Knight Enchanter" to differentiate the two characters -- you just did it in your post, I don't get why it's so hard to do the same thing with a safe portfolio in game. You can even get as specific as you want with "Qunari Rift Mage Josephine Romance" or w/e. Or if you really don't like this idea, I also threw out the avatar idea as I'm assuming anyone who customizes their names also customizes their characters to differentiate them. Or both at the same time!

[King Killoth]

if they go a Fallout4 rout and record thousands of names and as long as you choose a name that is common enough to be used then your set

[TammieAZ]

Only preset characters should get preset first names. 

[BraveVesperia]

I think if every protag has the same name, it really detracts from the 'uniqueness' of each character in your mind. I don't think I'd enjoy thinking "Ok, I've finished playing Marian Hawke with the black hair, time to play Marian Hawke with the brown hair." Names go a long way towards a character's identity to me.

 

I don't think DAI really had a problem with the LIs calling you by a little or even a surname. Most of them seemed to have nicknames for the Inquisitor (Sera had a whole dictionary full of them!). People who more commonly refered to you as Inquisitor were usually very 'professional' people, like Josie, Viv or Cullen. And even then, not so much in personal conversations.

[Ieldra]

Can you guys remember the first names of your Inquisitors and Hawkes? Was the selection of a name that never gets used worthwhile? I would want to see a set first name because it would avoid unnecessary tiptoeing, and I don't think we'd lose much.

It is critically important that we can differentiate between different characters we're playing. Individual names are the easiest way to do that. Or would you rather refer to a specific character you play as "this human mage who did X, Y and non-Z"? 

 

And yes, I recall every single first name I chose for my characters, even those I use in my "for science" runs. Also, being unable to select a first name would confer the impression there is a canon we should adhere to and all our decisions are ultimately futile. The impact this would have on how the game and its role-playing dimension feels to me can't be overestimated. It is possible that I would stop playing these games if I could not select a first name. It was hard enough adapting to a fixed last name. I still resent that I can't select that, but I can compromise. 

[Rocknife]

One of the very few ways to make sure that the next game will fail even harder than DA2. Don't think Bioware would do that.

[Shaftell]

I agree with it. Or at least give us a selection of names to choose from. I personally roll with the default names provided because they sound nice to begin with and it fits the culture of the character.

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

I believe set nicknames are the best middle ground. No stuffy ranks or formal titles or surnames, where inapplicable. I wouldn't be as bothered by being referred to by surname alone if all the other characters had also been referred to by their surnames alone. It's incredibly jarring to be the only one in the group always addressed by surname or title. Gotta say, it makes my character feel like they don't belong, and thus, hurts immersion.

 

Nicknames can work in that only those close to you will address you by them, and the nickname could fit the type of relationship you have (possibly even be personality-related). If you're not close to a character, they can address you in the usual professional way, like everyone already does. This approach is a touch more realistic, and everyone, more or less, gets what they want. People who care about picking names for characters that ultimately aren't even theirs can still do so, and those of us who hate being spoken to in impersonal ways (especially compared to all the other characters), can get a more personal/less formal name of sorts. I could see this approach working well, provided Bioware unlearns how to make relationships that feel awkward/rigid and ill-fitting.

 

Alternatively, the idea of making it so that only the default names are spoken aloud (with race and sex obviously being taken into account) could work, too. If you like the name, and want to be addressed by it instead of your surname or title/rank, then you can keep the name as it is and hear it in game. If you want to choose your character's name, then you can still do so at the "cost" of not getting to be referred to by it in game. This option might be my preferred choice, with the nicknames being my second choice. Although it's not to say they're mutually exclusive, but rather, utilizing both options would likely be resource-intensive (all those extra lines, though). Could mitigate resource-intensiveness by limiting the races we can play as, either way.

[robertthebard]

I believe set nicknames are the best middle ground. No stuffy ranks or formal titles or surnames, where inapplicable. I wouldn't be as bothered by being referred to by surname alone if all the other characters had also been referred to by their surnames alone. It's incredibly jarring to be the only one in the group always addressed by surname or title. Gotta say, it makes my character feel like they don't belong, and thus, hurts immersion.
 
Nicknames can work in that only those close to you will address you by them, and the nickname could fit the type of relationship you have (possibly even be personality-related). If you're not close to a character, they can address you in the usual professional way, like everyone already does. This approach is a touch more realistic, and everyone, more or less, gets what they want. People who care about picking names for characters that ultimately aren't even theirs can still do so, and those of us who hate being spoken to in impersonal ways (especially compared to all the other characters), can get a more personal/less formal name of sorts. I could see this approach working well, provided Bioware unlearns how to make relationships that feel awkward/rigid and ill-fitting.
 
Alternatively, the idea of making it so that only the default names are spoken aloud (with race and sex obviously being taken into account) could work, too. If you like the name, and want to be addressed by it instead of your surname or title/rank, then you can keep the name as it is and hear it in game. If you want to choose your character's name, then you can still do so at the "cost" of not getting to be referred to by it in game. This option might be my preferred choice, with the nicknames being my second choice. Although it's not to say they're mutually exclusive, but rather, utilizing both options would likely be resource-intensive (all those extra lines, though). Could mitigate resource-intensiveness by limiting the races we can play as, either way.

Since, as you postulate, the character isn't yours anyway, what difference does it make how you're addressed?

[We'll bang okay]

people keep saying that the first name keeps there uniqueness, but having the same last name of thousands of hawke's and shepard's kind of takes away that.