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[Kernel_Error]

Basically I’ve played most of the game using  the same party: my warden is a warrior, I liked Alistair as the other warrior because he’s a good tank, Wynne as a healer, and Leliana as an archer and for opening chests.

 

Sometimes, depending the quest I’ve exchanged Leliana for Zevran, and Wynne for Morrigan.

 

I’ve never used Sten, he seemed to slow for me. The dog only has been used in the beginning as the 4th member of the team and I’ve only used Oghren in the Deeproads, because he was mandatory and he was in  Leliana’s place, also  in that quest I brought Alistair because it seemed right to bring the two wardens into the Deeproads. I’ve underused Shale too, I’ve only used her in her quest. 

[J-Bo89]

Most used companions in origins:       1.Leliana cuz of her rogue abilities mainly lockpicking who I always max out with her and advance her in Poison & Bombs

 

2. Wynne is honestly my 2nd most used character cuz she can heal and her magical prowess is worthy. And she seems to survive longer than some characters.

 

3. Mabari War Dog (believe it or not) is slightly used by me more than Morrigan BARELY simply because Mabari is superb at speed and evading getting hit by most foes, I mean attacks that never miss me as the Warden will miss mabari 3-4 times in a row and allowing Mabari to have hit the enemy 5 times and his attacks deliver quite the punch themselves.

 

4. Morrigan would be next. She is kinda like my frequently used substitute and I throw her in Mabari's place a lot of times and decimate with Morrigans powerful magical spells. Plus I LOVE Morrigan.

 

5. Lastly on my more used companion list is Allistair. He would be on my other list but he used much more than the characters on that list get used. I originally liked Allistair but now I can't stand his childish whiny ways. Not to mention, he can be outfitted with my best pieces of armor and somehow he will die and do so quickly. Almost immediately in some cases, I even have completely rendered his behaviors and tactics and he still manages to disappoint me and his attributes seem to mean no real advancements. Later in the game, he gets more adept at staying alive, but I don't take him to my tougher battles anyways.

 

Least Used Companions starting wt the least and going up.

 

1. Oghren- The horrendously boring and no personality possessing dwarf remains on the sidelines almost every time I play through Origins. He is just so dull and doesn't really impress me at all with his fighting skills to begin with so he is neglected by me most of the time. In fact, I have attempted in doin the Deep Roads venture without him but impossible to do. He is my least favorite character in the game.

 

2. Zevran- He sees more time than Oghren, but he is still overlooked on the bigge more dangerous quests and in the event I do join him in, it usually doesn't last long before I trade him out. His skills can become great but he is just so weak at first and his attacks are a joke at first that I just usually say screw it an leave him at camp. I like Zevran as a character, he is ok but I feel I am wasting my opportunity to involve a more powerful & more interesting ally.

 

3. Sten is the most used on this list but still made the cut, cuz I use him in rare occasions for his brute strength and if I am outnumbered by a big horde of enemies, I will occasionally let Sten tag along but he rarely stays too awful long either.

 

SHALE is absent from this list as I have just for the first time played the DLC but would def find more use of Shale than Sten or even Allistair in a lot of situations,

[J-Bo89]

Try usng the dog more. You may be surprised at how big of a factor he can be in battle. Sten is far too slow and is usually picked off quite easily cuz regardless of my Ablities sustained, most of the time Sten gets a lot of my enemies attention and he is like a slow sitting duck getting hammered away on.

[SwobyJ]

I was a Mage, basically a Spirit Healer. By this I mean I only needed a Rogue for Lockpicking and a Tank Warrior, though I liked to have a second Mage oftentimes just in case.

 

I tried to use everyone, but it was really hard to stick with this ideal.

 

Alistair - Yes. I used him a lot. He was my Warden's friend and unrequited crush. Bwahaha. Tank. In party most of the time, leaving only 2 other slots as variables. Sometimes replaced by Oghren, Sten, or Shale if I thought I could handle that.

 

Morrigan - Yes mostly. I used her a lot, but didn't feel like I needed to. Friends with her but she's not hinged on my Warden's story. I could just as well bring Wynne instead, or even no Mage.

 

Dog - Almost never used. Sometimes I tried. Maybe I could bring him a lot on a story alt, someday. A story alt that loves dogs or something.

 

Leliana - Used early on. I needed a Rogue, I liked her well enough, but I dropped her once I could level Zevran's lockpicking. Nothing against her.. she's just not my Warden's LI.

 

Sten - While I didn't mind him, I also couldn't relate. He wasn't a big part of this story. But good relations and I took him out once in a while.

 

Zevran - Definitely. While I didn't use him ALL the time, he was my Warden's LI and a needed Rogue (once with Lockpicking) so it stayed. Kept him once I knew I could open chests with him, so I'd count him as a near permanent one.

 

Wynne - I wanted to use her more, but this was limited because I already had one Spirit Healer. I don't dislike her as much as many others. In fact, I like her. Just wasn't as much in the cards for this playthrough.

 

Oghren - Well I didn't hate him and I liked having an axe wielding dwarf on the team so he was around sometimes.

 

Shale - Loved her! Can't say she was a fixture on my team, but she's on the upper end. Very fun, and acted as secondary tank-ish when needed.

 

Loghain - Killed by me.

 

 

 

 

TLDR:

Always Used - Alistair, Zevran

Sometimes Used - Morrigan, Leliana, Sten, Wynne, Oghren, Shale

Never Used - Dog, Loghain

 

Though 'Always' and 'Never' are not actually absolutes, and 'Sometimes' varies a lot.

 

A common team: Alistair, Zevran, Shale

This changed sometimes when I wanted a human female present or just variety. I only really shied away from Dog (and maybe somewhat Sten and Oghren as I already had my clear Warrior in Alistair; I considered Shale unique).

[SwobyJ]

I'm going to cover Awakening now too.

 

Again, I was Spirit Healer Mage.

 

Oghren - Rarely. Once I could replace him (with Justice!), I did.

 

Anders - Sometimes. I'm no Anders Fan, but he's nice to have around in this campaign. I never 'needed' a Mage so both Awakening Mages were not highest in priority. Especially since by this point I turned down the difficulty in order to experience all Dragon Age story before Inquisition release .

 

Nathaniel - Often. I tried Sigrun sometimes I liked her, but Nathaniel was my staple Rogue. Not a big fan of him either but he was okay.

 

Justice - Always. Stuck in party for the duration once I got him. LOVE JUSTICE.

 

Sigrun - Sometimes sorta. Maybe a future playthrough will use her more, but I opted for Nathaniel.

 

Velanna - Sometimes. More than Anders maybe, but I also recruited her last, I think, so it was limited. Not as against her as other players have been, and I don't consider her as forgettable either.

 

 

TLDR:

Always Used - Justice, Nathaniel

Sometimes Used - Anders, Sigrun, Velanna

Never Used - Oghren

 

 

TLDR for everything (Oghren gets bumped down due to lack of use in Awakening; sidenote - this would also happen to Anders if I'd include his lack of involvement in my DA2 story):

Always Used - Alistair, Zevran, Justice, Nathaniel 

Sometimes Used - Morrigan, Leliana, Sten, Wynne, Shale, Anders, Sigrun, Velanna

Never Used - Dog, Loghain, Oghren

 

I always needed a Warrior, but only one. I always needed a Rogue, but only one. I always WANTED a Mage, but struggled to justify it.

[Vanalia]

That's a bit sad that we get some only with DLC (Shale), or only at the end of the game (Loghain). Even for Dog, I love it but don't take him in my team because there's no party banter with him (outside of the camp).

 

I'm starting a mage now, so I guess I'll need a Rogue for the locks (first Leliana and I'll replace by Zevran), a Tank (hmm... obliged to have Alistair first and then I'll see if I take Oghren/Sten instead, and at the end I'll take Loghain), and maybe Morrigan as a second mage.

[sylvanaerie]

That's a bit sad that we get some only with DLC (Shale), or only at the end of the game (Loghain). Even for Dog, I love it but don't take him in my team because there's no party banter with him (outside of the camp).

 

I'm starting a mage now, so I guess I'll need a Rogue for the locks (first Leliana and I'll replace by Zevran), a Tank (hmm... obliged to have Alistair first and then I'll see if I take Oghren/Sten instead, and at the end I'll take Loghain), and maybe Morrigan as a second mage.

 

Sten/Oghren suck at tanking. Both are pretty squishy for warriors and 2 handed fighting is so bloody slow.  IMO Dog is better at those levels than Sten or Oghren (who you should be getting at a pretty high level as Orzammar is difficult in early game).  I'd recommend snagging Shale right after Lothering.  She's much better at it.  Not as effective as a well built S&S, but definitely better at it than Sten or Oghren.  Zevran doesn't start with lockpicking so you will need to invest some points into that going in with him, and be careful with aggro management on him.  As a melee dps he does a lot of damage, but he's pretty squishy and you have to micromanage him a bit to keep mobs off him.  If you don't play a healer mage, Wynne will be more useful than Morrigan, but if you really want to go with the swamp witch, make sure Morrigan at least has the level 1 creation "Heal" spell, which any mage should have anyway.  But I figured you probably already know all this and I'll shut up now...

[Mike3207]

That's a bit sad that we get some only with DLC (Shale), or only at the end of the game (Loghain). Even for Dog, I love it but don't take him in my team because there's no party banter with him (outside of the camp).

 

I'm starting a mage now, so I guess I'll need a Rogue for the locks (first Leliana and I'll replace by Zevran), a Tank (hmm... obliged to have Alistair first and then I'll see if I take Oghren/Sten instead, and at the end I'll take Loghain), and maybe Morrigan as a second mage.

Shale's Stone Aura lets you add +10 Spellpower for your mage while you're in his Aura, but the tradeoff is that Shale is paralyzed. it's something to think about.

 

For certain mage specializations like Arcane Warrior and Shapeshifter, I'd consider bringing 2 rogues. Song of courage scales on Cunning and you can get a good critical chance percentage as a mage.

 

In certain circumstances, I'll alternate either Wynne or the Dog. Wynne has certain spells that might buff a shapeshifter and Dog can make use of Song of Courage as well.

 

I rarely use the other companions.  That may change with a non-mage, but I just don't find them as useful.

[Vanalia]

My Warden is a healer mage so I won't take Wynne in my team.

 

As I said, I don't have the Shale DLC and can't find it on the PSN anyway, and all the DLCs are sooo expensive (Awakening is 20 euros, more expensive than any DLC of Inquisition), I'll order the "Ultimate edition" I guess to have all the DLC included...

 

I just have the basic DA:O...

[SwobyJ]

 

My Warden is a healer mage so I won't take Wynne in my team.
 
As I said, I don't have the Shale DLC and can't find it on the PSN anyway, and all the DLCs are sooo expensive (Awakening is 20 euros, more expensive than any DLC of Inquisition), I'll order the "Ultimate edition" I guess to have all the DLC included...
 
I just have the basic DA:O...

 
Definitely get the Ultimate Edition.
 
My boyfriend got the free DAO deal from Origin, but I kinda don't want him to start with that because he'll already be missing Shale.

[olnorton]

Even for Dog, I love it but don't take him in my team because there's no party banter with him (outside of the camp).

Dog sort of has party banter with Sten.
Getting him to throw a stick until he is sick of it.
The first time I heard Sten talking to dog, I thought he was talking to me.
I was like, what are you on about.

I take Leliana everywhere, Wynne a lot, & swap around the 3rd spot.
If I don't kill Zevran off at the start, I usually only bring him in to the Dalish elf camp to make poisons & then swap him out before the fighting starts.
Oghren I generally only use for his compulsory bits of the deep roads.

[Vlada47]

Dog has some party banter with pretty much everybody as far as I remember... he doesn't do that when you have him in summon slot via the mod.

[Vanalia]

But if I start the game with the basic edition (until Ostagar for example), if I buy the Ultimate edition, my save is compatible?

[sylvanaerie]

But if I start the game with the basic edition (until Ostagar for example), if I buy the Ultimate edition, my save is compatible?

 

Should be.  I didn't start with all the DLC's, ordering them one at a time and they just DLed and installed as I got them.  I started with the base game (with a free Shale offer).  Didn't notice I had the opportunity to get Shale till a couple weeks later and installed that.  Then after playing some more decided I wanted Warden's Peak.  After that, I got DLC's as they were released.  All except Darkspawn Chronicles.  I had no desire to get a DLC that had nothing to add to my warden's story.  Leliana's Song was iffy enough as it takes place prior to Origins, but because she was a companion and I liked her, I enjoyed her story.  Gave a lot of her background

Spoiler

and you get to see Divine Justinia before she became Divine.

 

Admittedly, I play on PC, am unsure of PS version, but it should be compatible.  At worse, you have to make a new save.  Since Origins is designed to be played multiple times with different choices, I figure that's not too onerous a task.

[Darkly Tranquil]

Even for Dog, I love it but don't take him in my team because there's no party banter with him (outside of the camp).

Not true. Dog has banters with Sten (as previously mentioned), Oghren (about putting a saddle on dog and riding him into battle), and with Morrigan (about leaving a dead rabbit in Morrigan's underwear). I think there are others, but I can't recall them all.

[thewatcheruatu]

I'm not amazing at this game and too lazy to min/max or really plan for anything, so because I've only played melee characters, I pretty much always have Morrigan and Wynne with me. That's why it was so annoying to me when Morrigan left right before the battle with the archdemon. My entire playstyle was basically based around her (well, around a 2 mage set-up).

 

Anyway, when I finally completed a full playthrough of Origins (as opposed to the two prior aborted attempts), it was with a tank, and I absolutely always used Leliana (ranger), Wynne (arcane warrior), and Morrigan (never bothered to give her a second specialization), except when I'd do something that seemed related to a particular party member (e.g., Oghren and Shale in the Deep Roads, Alistair in Redcliffe).

 

All of the characters have their charms, and ideally, I'd bring them all, but it's just so much easier to play this game with two mages, and Leliana's bard songs and wolf were too valuable to leave behind. Oh, and she's also a rogue, so...useful for traps and chests. I kind of hate that gameplay has to affect the characters with which I spend the most time, but what are you gonna do? I understand why it has to work that way.

 

For a while, I actually tried to get a little more use out of Alistair (because I love him) by training him in archery skills. He was serviceable, because he already had high dexterity, but obviously, he was never going to be as useful as Leliana. Too bad.

[Illegitimus]

As a sword and board warrior, Lelianna is my virtually constant companion just for the lockpicking.  My least used character is Shale.  So noisy.  I use Morrigan more than Wynne, but there are places where you just shouldn't take Morrigan.  

[sylvanaerie]

Not true. Dog has banters with Sten (as previously mentioned), Oghren (about putting a saddle on dog and riding him into battle), and with Morrigan (about leaving a dead rabbit in Morrigan's underwear). I think there are others, but I can't recall them all.

 
Leliana talks about putting him in a song she's doing on the Warden and his companions.  Alistair talks to him, wondering how much he truly understands.  He sparks a convo about a mabari Loghain owned.  Morrigan's banter has to do with him begging more scraps from her.  The rabbit in her knickers dialogue is in camp.  And Dog gets his own special scene the first time you go to Denerim.

 

He has banters, it's just they are a window to other companions mostly, not him since he doesn't speak.

[springacres]

Not true. Dog has banters with Sten (as previously mentioned), Oghren (about putting a saddle on dog and riding him into battle), and with Morrigan (about leaving a dead rabbit in Morrigan's underwear). I think there are others, but I can't recall them all.

 

 

 
Leliana talks about putting him in a song she's doing on the Warden and his companions.  Alistair talks to him, wondering how much he truly understands.  He sparks a convo about a mabari Loghain owned.  Morrigan's banter has to do with him begging more scraps from her.  The rabbit in her knickers dialogue is in camp.  And Dog gets his own special scene the first time you go to Denerim.

 

He has banters, it's just they are a window to other companions mostly, not him since he doesn't speak.

Zevran also has one about dogs in Antiva versus dogs in Ferelden.  Wynne mentions something about Dog's tail.

[springacres]

Back to the topic - I don't min/max, and I try to have characters that are useful in both hand-to-hand and ranged, so all my warriors get at least Melee Archer and all my rogues get at least one point in each combat style.

 

That being said, I end up using Alistair, Wynne, Zev and Leliana the most, then Oghren and Shale, then Sten and Morrigan.  (Although the Qunari Prayer for the Dead Feastday gift item comes in handy if you don't have Revival unlocked yet, so I'll sometimes take Sten if I'm anticipating an extra tough fight.)

 

I play on Casual most of the time; I'm more of a story-oriented person than a combat-oriented person, so I generally don't need more than one tank.  Alistair's good at that role, and his Templar abilities are a nice bonus against emissaries.  Plus he's a nice guy to hang around with.

 

Zevran is usually my LI, and while he starts off with no skill in lockpicking, I have Leliana for that in the early game and just give Zev the skill when I can.  He's good at dual wield, and his Assassin skills include a nice damage boosting bonus against ranked enemies especially in the later game.  His good looks and witticisms are what make him the most indispensable for my party, though. 

 

Leliana is my main archer, and she gets the Ranger spec as soon as I have it available, so her animal sidekicks are a nice bonus.  She also starts out with some lockpicking skill, as I mentioned earlier, so I use her a lot to get into chests and deal with traps.

 

Wynne is my healer, though I also give her some of the elemental AoE and damage over time spells.  I also generally make her an Arcane Warrior.

 

Oghren... I wish I could use him more, because he's a great tank/damager and gets even better if you give him Reaver.  I just love his personality.  (No, I'm not being sarcastic... which is weird, because in real life I'm creeped out by guys like him.)  He may be a boor, and he is a confirmed drunk, but at least his heart's in the right place.

 

Shale is, of course, about as close to being a literal tank as you can get in Thedas.  She's good at crowd control, drawing aggro or just any time you need a big rock dropped on someone's head who's not one of your party members.  Unfortunately, she doesn't seem to have much personality.

 

Sten I really don't have a lot of use for, except in the early game before I unlock Revival and recruit Oghren.  His personality, while not rude, is generally condescending and just doesn't appeal to me all that much.

 

Morrigan is my early-game healer (for non-mage Wardens) and AoE mage, and that's generally it.  Her personality gets on my nerves.

 

I do sometimes swap party members out for banter purposes, though.  Especially Morrigan.  Zev's snarky banter with her about being treated like a goddess is just pure win.

[Dai Grepher]

My main Hero is a male human noble dual weapon warrior who romanced no one except Anora. So he was able to have a well balanced party throughout most of the game. But overall I would say Alistair, Morrigan, Leliana, and Wynne were the most utilized. I think Oghren was the second most underutilized. Even in Awakening I didn't have him in the party as much as I would have liked. That's just the consequence of him being a warrior in similar fighting style to my Hero. Technically, Loghain was the most underutilized because he joined late in the game, but he doesn't really count. I still took him on some backtracking quests to kill some revenants.

 

With my human male bloodmage who romances Morrigan and Leliana simultaneously, I think things were even more balanced, but only to a point. He ended up killing Wynne, Shale, and Zevran when they betrayed him. After that it was easy to balance the party out.

 

Still, the most underutilized is Dog. Though my bloodmage made better use of him thanks to Blood Sacrifice.

[Vanalia]

Not true. Dog has banters with Sten (as previously mentioned), Oghren (about putting a saddle on dog and riding him into battle), and with Morrigan (about leaving a dead rabbit in Morrigan's underwear). I think there are others, but I can't recall them all.

No, I mean no dog banter "outside of camp" you know, when you walk in a town and a party banter triggers randomly. Because I already got banter with Dog but at the camp. Sten loves talking to him.

Сообщение изменено: Vanalia, 16 Сентябрь 2015 - 09:21 .

[springacres]

No, I mean no dog banter "outside of camp" you know, when you walk in a town and a party banter triggers randomly. Because I already got banter with Dog but at the camp. Sten loves talking to him.

Dog does have party banters, too.  The ones DT, sylvanaerie and I mentioned are all party banters, not in-camp conversations.

[olnorton]

No, I mean no dog banter "outside of camp" you know, when you walk in a town and a party banter triggers randomly. Because I already got banter with Dog but at the camp. Sten loves talking to him.

Most of the dog banters mentioned, only happen out on the road, but you won't get them if you use the extra dog slot mod.

[DeathWalksBehindYou]

Least used by me: Dog (I understand a Cousland would have a strong bond with him/her, but just isn’t a useful companion) and Sten (his stats are stronger in comparison, but I’ll go for Oghren if I need this kind of companion; he’s far more entertaining. I find Sten a bit boring, frankly.).