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#51
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In the past I have been a very easy sell for all BioWare dlc.  The exceptionally poor performance stability wise of DAMP and what I consider very dumb decisions like nuking the off topic forum has changed the auto purchase mode I have been in the past to I'll think about it, probably not.  I have not purchased any of the sp dlc for Dragon age yet.



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Sadly, yes... Unfortunately, most games cut out content then release it as DLC.


Beats what they used to do before DLC.

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Interesting that my game on physical media cost me the same as that advertised in Origins = full price.

 

The EU changed the classification of digital goods to services (because of things like WoW) - which means they're taxable at the point of receipt; this means that now often the digital versions are more expensive than the physical.

 

The way EA/Origin seems to work is to take the RRP of the physical version and then slap VAT on that to calculate the price for the digital version rather than basing the digital price on the what they'd actually get for the physical version (i.e. retail minus production, packaging, shipping and distribution)... so, in the UK, the digital version can often be 20% more than the physical.

 

I don't buy anything through Origin.



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AlanC9

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Well, that's a bit bizarre of them. Surely there are plenty of players who will buy the physical disc under those circumstances, which leaves EA out both the manufacturing costs and the retailer split.

We don't have the tax issue in the US. It's typical to price digital versions and physical versions about the same, because we don't really want to strangle the physical product ecosystem just yet. (In book publishing we talk about this stuff all the time.) This results in higher profit for each digital copy sold, obviously.

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Right. We want to strangle it nice and slowly. Boil that frog.



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AlanC9

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Pretty much. When readers are getting all their book recommendations from social media rather than bookstores, we'll pull the plug.

Gaming should get there faster. Hell, I don't see why a PC gamer would ever go in a store.

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I think the only Mass Effect DLCs I genuinely didn't like were Pinnacle Station and the one where you get the Hammerhead.


Omega was awful, too much effort, time and money for nothing. The class based interrupt was good thou.

#58
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Depends what they include. Quite worried about timed exclusivity deals or cutting of platforms with DLC's though, since that seems to be Bioware's DLC policy at the moment. XBONE folks will likely get DLC's month earlier than other players and hopefully Bioware doesn't decide to not include DLC's for some platforms this time.

 

 

since ME:A will be current gen only, i dont think they will cut off any platform that aren't current gen.. as far as ''timed'' DLC, as fans we hate that they do that, BUT as a company, it makes sense to them more than for us fans.. but thats okay, i mean they gotta do what they gotta do :) i wish every game developer follows CDPR. they are the most pro-consumer out there.



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since ME:A will be current gen only, i dont think they will cut off any platform that aren't current gen.. as far as ''timed'' DLC, as fans we hate that they do that, BUT as a company, it makes sense to them more than for us fans.. but thats okay, i mean they gotta do what they gotta do :) i wish every game developer follows CDPR. they are the most pro-consumer out there.

 

Well ME3 cut Wii so it's possible, though unlikely with only 3 platforms. I'm bit worried about how much XBONE will get the goodies though, for now I'm expecting them to get early access to game like with DAI and maybe getting DLC's month earlier than others like happened with DAI's Jaw of Hakkon. And it does suck for fans who have to wait and have  to try to avoid spoilers.

 

I don't really think BW needs to do any of that, they are big company so they could afford being more customer-oriented ^^; DAI just didn't leave good taste in my mouth about Bioware at all.



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To avoid a $hit storm right at release I hope there won't be any day one DLC with important content like Javik 2.0



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On the subject of Bioware DLC, how often is it on sale on PSN? I'm planning on getting a PS4 on Black Friday and I definitely want to get all the DA and ME games. If PSN does put the DLC on sale, then I'll get the games when they come out, but if they're never on sale, then I'll just wait for the GOTY editions. 



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On the subject of Bioware DLC, how often is it on sale on PSN? I'm planning on getting a PS4 on Black Friday and I definitely want to get all the DA and ME games. If PSN does put the DLC on sale, then I'll get the games when they come out, but if they're never on sale, then I'll just wait for the GOTY editions. 

At least film your war on Black Friday for me. Me, sadly living in boring Europe, can't experience it first hand



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On the subject of Bioware DLC, how often is it on sale on PSN? I'm planning on getting a PS4 on Black Friday and I definitely want to get all the DA and ME games. If PSN does put the DLC on sale, then I'll get the games when they come out, but if they're never on sale, then I'll just wait for the GOTY editions. 

There is only DA:I on PS4. The ME games will only be on the XBoxOne (+ 360/PS3 and PC)  thanks to backwards compatibility.

 

And EA hasn't done a GOTY or Complete Edition in years.



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See but how do you know that if Javik wasn't DLC that they wouldn't have just cut him? they might have almost finished him then been like we have to make decision between Javik and something else and went with the other thing. than they realized that if they make it a DLC they can get the extra budget to finish Javik.

They wouldn't, because From Ashes was meant as bonus content for CE/DD version of the game that EA decided to sell as day1 DLC to everyone. That's the reason of all the shietstorms about it. We can only hope that they learned their lessons.

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They wouldn't, because From Ashes was meant as bonus content for CE/DD version of the game that EA decided to sell as day1 DLC to everyone. That's the reason of all the shietstorms about it. We can only hope that they learned their lessons.

 

But that doesn't counter Mirrman's point about From Ashes getting it's funding from a separate pot from that being used to develop the main game. Lots of content will be cut from a game's development before it goes gold because the studio couldn't get it finished in time, couldn't get it to work properly or prioritised other content over it when it came to divvying out resources. If a developer can get extra zots from the publisher by developing day-one dlc, they can afford to pick up and finish some of this cut content. If it turns out to be really good and add to the game as a whole, well that just goes to show they chose well. Perhaps they shouldn't have cut the content in the first place  and dropped something else instead, but regardless there are always going to be some potentially really cool ideas that get dropped during development. Dlc just gives another bite at that apple.

 

Bioware have since dropped day-one dlc for the fore-mentioned ****-storms it invariably causes, but as far as I can see that just means the first bit of dlc is released a bit later or is limited to a few cheaply made vanity items.


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