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jonathon.jenkins

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I play very few campaign titles from start to finish. The mass effect trilogy kept me comfortable in Afghanistan through my deployment there.

I loved the games from start to finish with the exception of mass effect 3 ending. I know a point brought up is it’s up to us to write the ending in our own heads, but if I wanted that I would write books. I don’t plan to play another mass effect game unless Shepards story is finished with a deserving ending fit for a hero (someone I built over 100+hours of play). You may think oh here is a kid complaining, I am not alone(majority agree with me, a poll showed in 55000 people 91% want a better ending, 6% ending fine just want team ending, 3% good).

I ask that you add him to another game considering the grandpa grandson white planet scene.

I can list quotes that your team said about how all I did matters in the ending…….yet no matter what, Blue, Green, Red.

Promises of how characters we invested in would come to resolution.

Promises it would have more ending options than ME2.

What you need to understand is if that's how your gonna end your games why should i trust you.

Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me.

If this is just a ploy to build tension to say “tricked ya Shepard is in ME4” then disregard,

Otherwise please respond.

 

                                                                                                -An old fan



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Shepard will not be in ME:A. The game takes place as far away from Shepards story as they could possibly get.

 

You have got all the closure you are going to get for Shepards story..

 

I'm sorry.


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I don't take any random poll on the Internet seriously as it can have a heavy bias depending on who conducted it and where they went to offer people invites to participate.  I can easily get a poll of people saying they hate bacon by going to a vegan convention but that doesn't mean the the majority of people that have eaten bacon hate it (hell is there even a way to tell if all the people in a poll actually played the game and are not just dummy accounts to help skew the results in a certain way.

 

Plus there was plenty of resolution in ME3:

 

-Resolved the genofage one way or the other (also resolving Krogan/Turian hatred if done properly)

-Resolved the Geth/Quarian War

-Helped Jack find a better life

-Gave the Rachni a chance to contribute to the galaxy

-Loved the Paragon outcome of Project Overlord myself, was a small addition but it felt good.

 

 

Shepards story is done and since his/her status after ME3 is quite ambiguous due to the possible outcomes I doubt we will see Shepard appear in future games (similar to the Warden).


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As I understand it, the development of this game was underway by the time the Citadel DLC hit the market. The ship has sailed. 



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Shepard probably won't be in ME:A but I could see them making another game featuring him down the road. 


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I think that ship has already sailed and devs just want to get away from Shepard's story and it's endings with new game that happens in entirely new galaxy.



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Shepard probably won't be in ME:A but I could see them making another game featuring him down the road.


Let's hope not.
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jonathon.jenkins

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the only people responding badly are people looking forward to ME:A, you obviously have no investment in the story you played it for action not story. 



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I'm the same way, there's a few games I've played from start to finish.  And Mass Effect is one of them.


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For what it's worth, I agree with you 100%. Sadly, Bioware and EA don't, so what we got was it, for better or worse (worse). My only suggestion is to play it on PC and get the Mass Effect Happy Ending Mod, which takes the ending and does its best to make lemonade out of ****.

 

Or you can just look up videos of MEHEM on YouTube if you'd rather not get the game on PC. There are a variety of them to suit your Shepard and love interest so the ending you see matches up with your playthrough.

 

Also, thank you for your service.


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jonathon.jenkins

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I'm the same way, there's a few games I've played from start to finish.  And Mass Effect is one of them.

I hope they make another on Shepard!!!



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jonathon.jenkins

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For what it's worth, I agree with you 100%. Sadly, Bioware and EA don't, so what we got was it, for better or worse (worse). My only suggestion is to play it on PC and get the Mass Effect Happy Ending Mod, which takes the ending and does its best to make lemonade out of ****.

 

Or you can just look up videos of MEHEM on YouTube if you'd rather not get the game on PC. There are a variety of them to suit your Shepard and love interest so the ending you see matches up with your playthrough.

 

Also, thank you for your service.

No problem man, I hope they make another. But ill check out these endings



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I hope they make another on Shepard!!!

 

Nah, Shepard is gone. Story completed.  Time for a new hero! I am more excited for a new ME game with new characters and plot than I am for lets say a continuation of Shepard.



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Unfortunately it seems that at least for the next few years we are not going to have Shepard back in any form. Bioware knows they screwed up but they also have no idea how to fix it without making the people in charge of ME3 look like asses. 

As I have said in another thread one possibility is that they might use some kind of time travel mechanic to go back and fix the endings using the upcoming game as the missing link. And I don't know why people hate so much the idea, after all X-men Days of the Future Past did it rather well and at this point I am not even sure how many movies before that actually are now canon if any of them are.


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Unfortunately it seems that at least for the next few years we are not going to have Shepard back in any form. Bioware knows they screwed up but they also have no idea how to fix it without making the people in charge of ME3 look like asses. 

As I have said in another thread one possibility is that they might use some kind of time travel mechanic to go back and fix the endings using the upcoming game as the missing link. And I don't know why people hate so much the idea, after all X-men Days of the Future Past did it rather well and at this point I am not even sure how many movies before that actually are now canon if any of them are.

 

To be honest, like you said... We will be in Andromeda for quite some time.  I forsee the majority of the games being set in Andromeda (at least 3-5 games) before we venture back to Milky Way.



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The title of this thread is misleading. :(



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The Shepard Universe is dead ME 3 did that and this new Mass Effect should have no connection to that universe, that means no Shepard and no Reapers. The new Mass Effect should be a stand-alone, something new, something that no connected to the Shepard and Reapers story.



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 You may think oh here is a kid complaining, I am not alone(majority agree with me, a poll showed in 55000 people 91% want a better ending, 6% ending fine just want team ending, 3% good).

 

 

If the poll simply asked whether people are fine with the ending, or want a better one, that tells you nothing about WHY people were dissatisfied with the ending. 

 

I for one was dissatisfied not because of any perceived lack of closure (that didn't matter to me one bit), but because of the egregiously bad writing, and ill conceived concept, including the fact that the endings involved essentially pure magic in an, up until then, science fiction setting. The Synthesis ending was the worst offender - there isn't even any plausible techno-babble explanation you could give to a beam of something instantaneously endowing organic creatures with synthetic parts, and vice versa. 

 

I was dissatisfied because from a story perspective, no Shepard worth his/her salt would believe anything the space boy - lifted straight out of Shepards dreams - would say. Shepard would make the obvious conclusion that the reapers are indoctrinating him/her. Thus rejection of everything the space boy offered would be the only reasonable action, yet we weren't even given that option initially, and when it was given, Shepard gives the wrong reasons for rejecting; the correct reason would be because Shepard didn't believe the space boy. I guess since in the game rejection leads to a loss scenario (when it should be the only option that led to victory), they couldn't really let Shepard give a reasonable argument for rejecting the offers; otherwise they would be admitting to the inanity of the whole situation, and punishing the player for taking the only reasonable option. 

 

Alas, inconceivably, this space boy is actually telling you the truth, breaking with the 100% established Reaper modus operandi of not negotiating, but idoctrinating. They were in Shepard's head (as proven by the shape taken by the space boy), yet decided not to indoctrinate. And Shepard suddenly gets dumb as a door knob, and can't even express any doubt as to the reality of the space boy's offers. 

 

The ending was horrible not because of any lack of closure, but because of sheer implausibility of the whole concept behind the ending, both from the story perspective, and from a science-fiction genre perspective. It has more holes than Swiss cheese, and severely insults the player's intelligence. 

 

This is what turned me off the whole ME universe for more than a year after having experienced that horrid ending, and why the further they distance themselves from that cluster...um...duck in the next game, the happier I'll be. 

 

Actually, the only thing that would make me really happy about it, and undo some of the damage left by the ME3 ending disaster, would be if they revealed that the reapers won, after having indoctrinated the team (including Shepard) who went into the Citadel, and the reason we are at Andromeda is because we are the last ditch effort to save civilization from under the onslaught of the Reapers. That way they could explain the whole ME3 ending as a fever-dream of Shepard's indoctrinated, dying mind. 

 

A grim, tragic ending is a far better option than a poorly conceived, genre-violating "happy" ending, that leaves the whole fictional galaxy in such an awkward place, that you need to place the next game in another galaxy altogether, just to distance yourself from the embarrassment. 


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Shepard will not be in ME:A. The game takes place as far away from Shepards story as they could possibly get.

 

You have got all the closure you are going to get for Shepards story..

 

I'm sorry.

 

 

thats why i chose to forget the whole trilogy. to be honest, i did not get closure. so many unaswered questions, but ya know what? i chose to forget and enjoy what it is and move on.


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In response to our outrage they gave us the Extended Cut because "we didn't understand the meaning behind the colors." That was our new ending. Sorry. Realize that you were the bad guy and the reapers were the good guys. Choose synthesis and get closure. Shepard no longer has to listen to taunts about Asari reproduction.



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Shepard leveled up for a God and given the chance to choose the destiny of the Galaxy. No one understands the function of the Crucible or barely, only the Catalyst can "understand" the Crucible's true potential.

Reapers can not be beaten alone conventionally -it was many times said during the ME3 main events- only one hope remains for the Galaxy : the Crucible.

 

As for my opinion Shepard is incredible skilled warrior. He/She can live through deadly situations that no other Spectre can.

Shepard achieved his/her goal not alone because of skills, but his companions, the Alliance, the Fleet, The Cerberus and the Normandy helped him.

 

Regardless Shepard is a skilled Sceptre he can't win a war against a highly advanced ancient race.

The only way to dissaprove my conclusion is the refusal ending, but again we are going back to point 1., : the Reapers cannot be beaten conventionally.

 

So if anyone wan't a better ending that means you wan't a ME3 remake and the story got to be completely rewritten in most parts of the game starting from the ground.



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the only people responding badly are people looking forward to ME:A, you obviously have no investment in the story you played it for action not story. 

 

Actually, the people who are looking forward to ME:A are most likely looking forward to it because it is a new story within the ME universe, not because they weren't invested in the story of ME1-3.

 

I'm looking forward to ME:A for that very reason.  I've put over 2000 hours into the trilogy, both story and ME3 MP (600 hrs in ME3 MP alone), and I have to say, despite ME being my favorite futuristic RPG, I'm glad BW's moving away from Shep & Co.  Yes, the ending could've been better, but it's been 3 years.  Shep's story is done, and that's a good thing.  It means that 1) we can finally explore different aspects of the ME universe, and 2) Shep & Co. can finally catch a break and relax post-ME3, even if we likely won't see them again.

 

I'll miss all the characters from ME1-3, but I'm willing to get to know the new crew.  Who knows, some of them might be better than some of the old crew.


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If the same old Shep bull **** bugs you after three games maybe Halo should move to another character all the sudden.


Like The Arbiter? Or the Rookie? Noble 6? Agent Locke?

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Hello everyone. Let's keep it on topic and civil in here. Thank you.


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To be honest, like you said... We will be in Andromeda for quite some time.  I forsee the majority of the games being set in Andromeda (at least 3-5 games) before we venture back to Milky Way.

 

You do understand that ME is not cod or assasins creed, 3-5 games means 12 to 20 years. 


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