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[AlanC9]

Hell, my monitor doesn't even support 4K.I suppose I could pick up a better one, but I'm not sure I can see the difference anyway.

[Nitrocuban]

Remember, MEA will be released in like 1.5 years.

Planing ahead for 4k isn't that stupid considering that timeframe.

[Chealec]

Remember, MEA will be released in like 1.5 years.

Planing ahead for 4k isn't that stupid considering that timeframe.

 

Price on 4k monitors is already dropping - you can pick one up now for under £400, under £300 in some cases (though the response times aren't as fast); give it 18 months and Windows 10 proliferation and I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's not the defacto spec on new PCs.

[RVallant]

I hope a quad core 970 is enough to run it at 60fps on super-ultra in 1080p...

 

I'm quite poor (haha), but yeah, I can't imagine it will be optimised for 4k and super elite graphics precisely because they have to be made for the consoles. Though if it exceeds my rig's set up I'd be sad, as would a lot of people who have a similar set up to me. >_>

[Ahglock]

Hell, my monitor doesn't even support 4K.I suppose I could pick up a better one, but I'm not sure I can see the difference anyway.

I just got a gaming computer a couple months ago and passed on 4k monitors. They caped at a 60mhz refresh rate. I think I'd rather have my 2+k at 138. To me right now it's flash not substance. By the time MEA comes out that wil likely be different. Doubt I'll drop the cash to do it though. Some people prefer the 60 as it is optimized for some game styles but I prefer the versatility of what I got.

Without knowing the resources necessary to make this possible I'm not sure if it's worth it. Hey if they can without it pulling noticeable budget from other areas hey go for it.

Side note, yes ME1 was the best PC port to date in the ME series. It was pretty good.

[Xaijin]

I'm still looking for an actual problem with the ME1 port.

For certain AMD video hardware set-ups you can't even get the game to initialize the renderer, much less display, and this was never addressed.

make a difference

[Sanunes]

Depends on the game I guess.

 

Mass Effect 3 sold more than 1.5 million copies in the first month of release across all platforms, with XBoX 360 being the best-selling platform.

Diablo 3 sold 3.5 million copies in the first 24 hours when it was first released on PC (console ports came later).

 

There are more than 65 million League of Legends players - that's more than every single PS4 and XBoX1 sale combined.

 

 

Make of that what you will.

 

How does Mass Effect 3 compare to other BioWare titles or how about comparing something like GTA V to a PC only release. My issue with using League of Legends is that it is a completely different business model being F2P, that would be comparing sales to the NES version of Mario because it was bundled with consoles.

 

To me your comparisons seemed to be designed to show your point of view while skipping other information.

[Sanunes]

Agree with the controls. But it's ME what we're talking about, not DA:I....I doubt we'll have the same issues in that matter.

 

And mod support....hah. I'd love it, and it'd benefit the game enormously (devs, if you're reading this...people are STILL buying Skyrim almost 4 years after it's release merely to play it with mods...please have that detail in mind), but I guess the "evil EA not wanting their games to have more revenue that it's intended to so you buy their next big title" will be at work in that matter....

 

****** human greed...

 

Don't mention Skryim around here, its what ruined Dragon Age: Inquisition you know.

 

The catch if you look at mods is yes Skyrim still has mods being made for it, but there weren't that many made for Dragon Age: Origins compared to Bethesda titles at the same time.  Combine that with the current internet outrage at CDPR with only releasing ModKit instead of RedKit I can see developers wondering if they really want to have mods.

[Sartoz]

Curiously, it's EA financial report itself the one which says that PC gaming is becoming increasingly prevalent:

 

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Yes, that's true.

However, I've yet to come across any senior EA exec mentioning  game policy changes. So far, their current policy  is satisfying their investors with console games outselling their PC equivalent.

 

Who knows, maybe the winds of change are now blowing in favour of the PC.

[rashie]

Price on 4k monitors is already dropping - you can pick one up now for under £400, under £300 in some cases (though the response times aren't as fast); give it 18 months and Windows 10 proliferation and I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's not the defacto spec on new PCs.

Eh, id say its probably still a while left before we see quality 4k monitors in that price range similar to what a monitor like a U2715H at 1440p gives you by now, assuming you get a good copy.

 

That and the fact there is no OLED PC monitors out there afaik because of what seems to be yield problems with large displays.

[AlanC9]

For certain AMD video hardware set-ups you can't even get the game to initialize the renderer, much less display, and this was never addressed.

Is that a problem with the port, or with AMD's drivers?

[Sanunes]

Is that a problem with the port, or with AMD's drivers?

 

I think it was a bit of both, for after the first patch of Inquisition and a new set of AMD drivers any of my friends that use ATI cards were able to play the game fine.

[Amplitudelol]

Im pretty much prepared to buy a controller to play it but i hope they make a proper kb&m support in the PC version.

[pdusen]

People say that all the time, but even average ports usually sell well on PC, and there's little outcry about them (and no, one thread with about 40 people posting about the same thing again and again isn't what I consider an outcry).

 

Very much this.

[In Exile]

DAI was a poor port because of things like forcing 30 FPS during cutscenes. 30 FPS isn't very fluid to begin with depending on how much movement there is on screen, but it tended to drop even below 30 for me... on a rig that runs BF4 on ultra as smooth as an elven baby's rear even in the middle of smoke grenade city on a 64 player map. Overriding it screwed up audio to graphics sync in longer cutscenes and made the walk toggle a one way ticket.

 

But most of the game's technical and other problems seem to be cross platform, so it's generally a question of overall technical quality, not that of the port. 

 

That's clearly an issue with the way Bioware modified the engine, because unlocking 30 FPS screws up a lot of things trigger-wise for cutscenes (particularly during CC). Same with the tactical camera. If you can hook up a controller, you'll see that the camera is actually "locked" onto a character - the thing you move around (by default) with WASD as a "free" icon in tactical cam on PC is actually the "move here" icon on console, which is tethered to the character. The engine has huge, huge issues with obstacles (in tactical camera, the pathfinding can't even climb the smallest possible obstacle using point and click).

 

They clearly build the tactical camera in a way that they hoped would be cross-platform, rather than create a PC-exclusive and console exclusive UI from the ground up (because - as DA2 shows - any level of action control isn't compatible with the traditional PC scheme). That's not a console port. It's just that on PC, anything that isn't PC exclusive isn't ideal. Just look at TW2-TW3.

[In Exile]

Price on 4k monitors is already dropping - you can pick one up now for under £400, under £300 in some cases (though the response times aren't as fast); give it 18 months and Windows 10 proliferation and I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's not the defacto spec on new PCs.

 

Depends on what size monitor you play, and how you've set up your living room. I use a TV, instead streaming all my content, so I have a very large screen monitor hooked up to my custom-built PC in the living room. So far, that's meant 1920x1080 at 55inch, at everything at max settings at 60-70fps. I'm not inclined to go to a 4k monitor until there's a reasonably priced model at that size.

 

In general, I'm very skeptical you'll see 4k become standard until you get a cheap pricepoint on the minotirs and the graphics cards are cheaply available to game at or near max settings at that resolution. So far ,you'd need, what, 2 980s/970s in SLI to get max settings at 60 fps+ at 4k?

[Pee Jae]

*sigh* Multiplayer in Dragon Age: Inquisition has 4 slots. Four. F.O.U.R. I wish people would stop blaming multiplayer because single player *only* has 8 slots when multiplayer only has 4. Four. That obviously has nothing to do with single player power slots or multiplayer would have 8 slots. And it doesn't. Stop. Please.

 

OT, I just hope it'll run on a 4 year old (when ME:A drops) Alienware X51. 

[Zatche]

Depends on what size monitor you play, and how you've set up your living room. I use a TV, instead streaming all my content, so I have a very large screen monitor hooked up to my custom-built PC in the living room. So far, that's meant 1920x1080 at 55inch, at everything at max settings at 60-70fps. I'm not inclined to go to a 4k monitor until there's a reasonably priced model at that size.

 

In general, I'm very skeptical you'll see 4k become standard until you get a cheap pricepoint on the minotirs and the graphics cards are cheaply available to game at or near max settings at that resolution. So far ,you'd need, what, 2 980s/970s in SLI to get max settings at 60 fps+ at 4k?

 

I've got a similar setup. Except, my Graphics Card is aging, so for certain games I have to dial down the resolution to 720 (I'd rather do that than turn off AA). And with my 55" TV across the room, it's noticeable, but not anywhere near noticeable that it really impacts my enjoyment of the game. I can't imagine a 4K Resolution across the room will enhance my gaming experience all that much.

 

With monitors that are 2 feet from your face, it'll make a difference, but, meh. I feel like higher resolutions are getting to the point of diminishing returns.

[ArabianIGoggles]

How does Mass Effect 3 compare to other BioWare titles or how about comparing something like GTA V to a PC only release. My issue with using League of Legends is that it is a completely different business model being F2P, that would be comparing sales to the NES version of Mario because it was bundled with consoles.

 

To me your comparisons seemed to be designed to show your point of view while skipping other information.

It's hard to get accurate figures when it comes to PC sales since the digital downloads are left out a lot of the time.  Steam, for example doesn't publish sales figures.  I haven't bothered to check if Origin reports all game sales.

[Catastrophy]

Graphic options - pff. Wait until you find out the controls were made by people who have no idea about mouse and keyboards.

[Lee T]

- A character and inventory interface custom built for PC, rather than just doing a barebones console port. Take a hint from PC MMORPG's on how to build a  proper inventory.

Believe you me, they have to learn how to build proper inventory interface period. They're not bad ports, they're accurate ports of atrocious console interface.

[Illusve Dumbo]

Alot of mods omg lol

[In Exile]

I've got a similar setup. Except, my Graphics Card is aging, so for certain games I have to dial down the resolution to 720 (I'd rather do that than turn off AA). And with my 55" TV across the room, it's noticeable, but not anywhere near noticeable that it really impacts my enjoyment of the game. I can't imagine a 4K Resolution across the room will enhance my gaming experience all that much.

 

With monitors that are 2 feet from your face, it'll make a difference, but, meh. I feel like higher resolutions are getting to the point of diminishing returns.

 

I should clarify - I mean to say I don't use a TV, but an actual computer monitor that's 55 inches. I'm not sure a 55inch 4k monitor exists, but that's what I would upgrade to if I wanted to go 4k, but like you I don't think I'll really see a benefit and to me the FPS is far more noticeable than the resolution from a distance (at least when comparing 1080 p to 2k). Maybe 4k really is an astronomical leap, but I'm going to wait until graphics cards really catch up and the price goes down.

[N7Jamaican]

Only gains I expect from PC over console is resolution, controls, and technical details (like FPS).

[FKA_Servo]

I just want to play it with a gamepad this time around.

 

If I can't do that, then I will be getting a PS4 or something. Resentfully, though.