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(Concern) I hope Andromeda takes place a long time after the events of 3.


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I want a clean break.
No Shepard.
No reapers.
No cerebus.
No former companions (or at least none that appeared in ME3).
No call backs.
No returning to the Milky Way.
No reference to any of the endings in ME3.
New Galaxy.
New protagonist.
New enemies.


This human understands.

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Personally I'd prefer the urgency of newly arrived ark settlers. Though they may set it later.
That said I think the travel time in the ark(in cryo) between leaving before end of reaper war & arriving in andromeda might mean it would be set quite a number of years after war in any case.

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I thought that it was confirmed that Andromeda takes 10 Solar years from the events of ME3...? Maybe I read that wrong? Plus the latest trailer shows an N7 Character with a Paladin pistol which would indicate a closer timeframe to ME3 or at least somewhere in the vicinity of time.



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We teleported using ME2's Dark Energy



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I thought that it was confirmed that Andromeda takes 10 Solar years from the events of ME3...? Maybe I read that wrong? Plus the latest trailer shows an N7 Character with a Paladin pistol which would indicate a closer timeframe to ME3 or at least somewhere in the vicinity of time.


You didn't read 10 years or any other number of years since BioWare hasn't said how long after ME3 it takes place. And having a Carnifex isn't an indication of timeframe since the ark-goers could have been in stasis for the trip, or any number of other reasons.

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BW don't wont to deal with ME3's endings and I can't say I blame them. I'm going to miss things about the MW but a fresh start (however many years after Shepard's trilogy) seems like the best idea. 

 

A time jump could easily be done but I don't think it has to be considering the distance between Andromeda and the Milky Way and after leaving everything behind I doubt the Ark would want to risk attracting Reapers attention by contacting the other galaxy.  



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I want it to take place during the time between ME2 and ME3. Maybe while Shepard was in lock up by the Alliance. So there would be no way of meeting anyone from the trilogy and no need to. Everyone was gone in their own separate directions. My decisions at the end of ME3 will also not impact the beginning of ME A in any way shape or form.

 

Clean slate as I see it.



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Personally, I really want Andromeda to take place at least a few centuries after the events of the trilogy, which would be history at that time. The outcome of the Reaper war (one of the three endings) wouldn't have to be clarified (because regardless of the outcome, centuries on it'll just be daily life for the galaxy), allowing BioWare to go back to the Milky Way at will in future installments, rather than leaving the galaxy a mess that they won't clean up. 

 

Depending on the story they want to tell, I would prefer ME:A take place at least 500-1500 years into the future. However, if they're going back to the MWG at some point in the future, the endings will have to be resolved anyway. The MWG is already a mess, and the only way to clean it up is to make millions of people disappointed and confused.

 

They could of course retcon everything and say something like: The synthesis wasn't really completed, or it didn't work that well. The Reapers were destroyed regardless, because Shepard AI decided to self-destruct. The Geth survived somehow, and so did the Quarians. The Krogans didn't die out... The relays weren't.. I give up.

 

It's actually impossible.



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If the ark theory is correct the game would almost certainly have to be set at least a few centuries after the events of the Shepard trilogy, as it will take a few centuries of travel to get there. 

 

The only exception to the above is if they find a relay linked to Andromeda or make use of a wormhole.



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What I'm agreeing with is the idea that they have moved the setting to Andromeda precisely to avoid the hang ups with the ending. It is likely that there may be call backs to the Milky Way Galaxy and it is probable that they will lose all contact with the MW "forever", meaning we won't have to waste time sorting out the ME3 endings.

 

If that turns out to be the case, then I will be curious to see if they will make sure that any games taking place in Andromeda don't have a 'finalised' ending. That may mean no big 'reaper-esque' threat, but it may also mean that the scope of the stories/trilogy from here on out is weaker as they try to keep the galaxy available for more than three games. That, to me is a greater concern as I don't want them killing the series off by hamstringing themselves by making it so they won't do any 'final' endings.



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A few centuries wouldn't make every living thing in the galaxy being cyberorganic feel the same as the Reapers being controlled by AI Shepard.
The endings are too different to just smoosh them into one mess of a setting. This is just a fact.


Opinion,not fact. Writers have written ways out of much larger problems than this. Time and distance can turn all of this into a codex entry and off hand comments. It might not be something you would like and people might complain that it diminished their end choice but it's fairly easily done.

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You didn't read 10 years or any other number of years since BioWare hasn't said how long after ME3 it takes place. And having a Carnifex isn't an indication of timeframe since the ark-goers could have been in stasis for the trip, or any number of other reasons.

 

http://www.windowsce...ugust-16th-2015

 

"EA revealed Mass Effect Andromeda at E3 earlier this year to rapturous applause. The new game takes place in the Andromeda galaxy, which is over 2 million light years beyond our own Milky Way. In Mass Effect Andromeda, you play as a galactic explorer charting unknown worlds. This mission takes you to Andromeda, ten solar years after the events of Mass Effect 3."



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Opinion,not fact. Writers have written ways out of much larger problems than this. Time and distance can turn all of this into a codex entry and off hand comments. It might not be something you would like and people might complain that it diminished their end choice but it's fairly easily done.


Sure, terrible writing that makes no sense is easy to produce.

http://www.windowsce...ugust-16th-2015
 
"EA revealed Mass Effect Andromeda at E3 earlier this year to rapturous applause. The new game takes place in the Andromeda galaxy, which is over 2 million light years beyond our own Milky Way. In Mass Effect Andromeda, you play as a galactic explorer charting unknown worlds. This mission takes you to Andromeda, ten solar years after the events of Mass Effect 3."


That's false. And a weird place to get your Mass Effect news.

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That's false. And a weird place to get your Mass Effect news.

 

1. When I initially wrote my post it was in question marks. (this thing >> ?) Indicating that "I thought" this was confirmed. Seeking more information or confirmation and then added a possible thought in regards to the trailer due to the character's weapon displayed. I didn't indicate that ten solar years was fact.

 

2. The article I referenced is from Microsoft Xbox One News.... why would this be a weird place to get any news? I get news from multiple sources not just one. 

http://www.windowsce...ugust-16th-2015

 

3. How do you know this is false without providing any other reasoning except.."That's false." ? It seems as if you are just shooting comments off the hip without any analytical thought behind it. 

 

I sent the writer a request for verification on his quote, which is probably the better method than what you seem to be doing. I posted the question on both the article and sent him a direct email. If it turns out to be true it would be interesting that it would have shown up in a Microsoft article. If it isn't then the writer will need to remove that bit of information from his article. We'll see. It'll be interesting to see his response.



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None of the official materials say anything about a specific timeline. All they've said about the period of time between the trilogy and Andromeda is that it's "far removed." You can go to the ME:A website or any reputable source of gaming news to get direct copies of the statements BioWare/EA has made about Andromeda. Not even the leak said anything about 10 years. Calling them "solar years" doesn't even make any sense.

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None of the official materials say anything about a specific timeline. All they've said about the period of time between the trilogy and Andromeda is that it's "far removed." You can go to the ME:A website or any reputable source of gaming news to get direct copies of the statements BioWare/EA has made about Andromeda. Not even the leak said anything about 10 years. Calling them "solar years" doesn't even make any sense.

 

LOL. Ok Im stopping here. I'll wait for the writer to verify his source. And yes I have read every Bioware/EA article there is on the subject. 

 

Oh and about solar years....what do you mean that doesn't make sense? That refers to the way our galaxy operates in regards to days and hours. Every galaxy has their own. Ours it is solar years as opposed to another galaxy it would be "XXX galaxy name here" years. This is High School stuff. 

 

If you search on Google for Solar Years You'll get this:

"The solar year (365 days 5 hours 48 minutes 46 seconds), also called tropical year, or yearof the seasons, is the time between two successive occurrences of the vernal equinox (the moment when the Sun apparently crosses the celestial equator moving north)."



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Opinion,not fact. Writers have written ways out of much larger problems than this. Time and distance can turn all of this into a codex entry and off hand comments. It might not be something you would like and people might complain that it diminished their end choice but it's fairly easily done.


It's not fairly easily done.

Doable?

Sure.

Doable well?

No, and that's why we have Andromeda.

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I want a clean break.

No Shepard.

No reapers.

No cerebus.

No former companions (or at least none that appeared in ME3).

No call backs.

No returning to the Milky Way.

No reference to any of the endings in ME3.

New Galaxy.

New protagonist.

New enemies.

 

New IP?



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LOL. Ok Im stopping here. I'll wait for the writer to verify his source. And yes I have read every Bioware/EA article there is on the subject. 
 
Oh and about solar years....what do you mean that doesn't make sense? That refers to the way our galaxy operates in regards to days and hours. Every galaxy has their own. Ours it is solar years as opposed to another galaxy it would be "XXX galaxy name here" years. This is High School stuff. 
 
If you search on Google for Solar Years You'll get this:
"The solar year (365 days 5 hours 48 minutes 46 seconds), also called tropical year, or yearof the seasons, is the time between two successive occurrences of the vernal equinox (the moment when the Sun apparently crosses the celestial equator moving north)."


Oh, we're in the Solar galaxy? I guess everyone who calls it the Milky Way galaxy is just an idiot, huh?  :rolleyes:

This isn't even high school stuff.

Solar year is not a galactic-ly qualitative term. It's a term that doesn't take any other solar systems into account, hence it being meaningless to say "Mass Effect:Andromeda is set 10 solar years after the trilogy."



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Oh, we're in the Solar galaxy? I guess everyone who calls it the Milky Way galaxy is just an idiot, huh?  :rolleyes:

This isn't even high school stuff.

Solar year is not a galactic-ly qualitative term. It's a term that doesn't take any other solar systems into account, hence it being meaningless to say "Mass Effect:Andromeda is set 10 solar years after the trilogy."

Ooohhhh juuuu got me... or did you? 

 

Ju win win. ;) 



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New IP?

Why?

We have literally an entire new Galaxy to explore. And figuratively, almost an entire universe.

When Ned Starks was killed, GoT didn't die off because the universe was created to support new stories and new heros.

The Mass Effect universe is similarly situated.

The previous trilogy wasn't a success because of Shepard.

He doesn't even have a personality or physical characteristics. He isn't even really a he.

Bioware created a universe to populate. Let's stop trying to force their creativity into a tiny corner of the universe.

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It could be set 10 years after ME3 and still not touch on ME3 ending at all because the trip could have taken longer.  The ship could have left around ME2 and arrived in Andromeda Galaxy 10 years after ME3.


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If I was writing the story for ME:A, then I would start the journey to Andromeda during the events of ME1. This way you can get all the species (except Geth) on board, you haven't even heard of the Reapers and Shepard is one of many N7s and not important enough to include in your data files.

Starting early also means there is no conflict with the Crucible, because otherwise the mission would use up resources that could have gone forward to defeating the Reapers. Best to not get into this dilemma at all.

 

I honestly don't see a reason why time should be a factor. We're in a different galaxy, who cares what year it is in the Milky Way? We can't observe the situation there anyway. Travel could be instant, it could take thousands of years, it could take us back in time... it doesn't matter.

 

As long as there is no way back, things are fine.


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So I reached out to the Microsoft Windows Central writer Jez Corden in regards to his quote on the Xbox One News article titled:

"This Week in Xbox One News - Comments from Phil Spencer, details on Mass Effect Andromeda, FFXV, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided and more! (August 16th, 2015)"

 

On this link:

http://www.windowsce...ugust-16th-2015

 

This was the quote on the article:

"EA revealed Mass Effect Andromeda at E3 earlier this year to rapturous applause. The new game takes place in the Andromeda galaxy, which is over 2 million light years beyond our own Milky Way. In Mass Effect Andromeda, you play as a galactic explorer charting unknown worlds. This mission takes you to Andromeda, ten solar years after the events of Mass Effect 3."

 

Personally I wasn't expecting such a quick response but now it really makes me very curious to the information. Now I am actually wondering if maybe this could be the actual time frame for ME:Andromeda. Either way, the writer apologized for not having a source and is updating the article now but did we perhaps stumble onto something? Not sure we'll know anything for a while. 

 

Here's the Jez Corden's response. I figure this would be something else to throw on the ME:Andromeda rumor mill for fun.

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It's not fairly easily done.

Doable?

Sure.

Doable well?

No, and that's why we have Andromeda.

 

 

Actually it is.  And fairly well.  The only ending that adds any real difficulty is synthesis and even that can be handled easily with about as many comments as ME1 background decisions. The easiest solution that fits all endings is you are a group that the end choice effectively misses. I mean really do you actually think every living being got turned into a cyborg, not a single planet was missed, not 1% of 1%, you don't think there might be people hundreds of years in the future on the short end of the control choice where the giant robots of doom are being used on them, or with everything destroyed a group doesn't search for greener pastures. Or if everything has been turned cyborg, every living creature.  All it really needs is a couple comments, what's that you're bleeding it isn't blood?...I heard what you survived on akuze....  I mean seriously you choose that as your ending, the main pc is a cyborg but the synthesis is mostly internal so its now just off comments here and there and codex entries. 

 

There is nothing wrong with things like that, they aren't bad, they make sense, they give credit to the ending choice. The choices would be hard to write off if it was in the same galaxy, but another galaxy a hundred+ years in the future that is easy.  No matter what route they take with this some group is going to be pissed, there really isn't a objectively better option. Its just hope you pick the one that pisses off the least people plan.