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[9TailsFox]

Ah, I see. Well, that's your right, and to be honest I liked Lt. Renn, but I'd rather they focus on fleshing out the cast that's already there instead of a few new characters we'll never see again (just standard practice for DLC characters). In other words, I'd rather end up with a deep main cast than a whole lot of people who I never got to know very well.

This I Decent character I naiver like or dislike and it's not good think. I hate Sera is good think, she is great. If character don't make you feel any emotion it's not very good think like Blackwall he is just boring even with his great plot twist I don't like or dislike him. We just don't have enough time to care for new characters.

Well we definitely see Valta again I think she was just uplifted to important character in DA universe.

[adorkable-panda]

I definitely wouldn't say it has the worst dlc of any bioware game. Origins did have the Darkspawn Chronicles and the Golems of Amagrawhatever, both hugely insignificant dlc that were obviously money grabs. At the very least JoH provided a crap ton of Avaar lore and some insight on a previous inquisitor and what not. (The whole meeting Ameridan was so auspecial to me becuase I play Lavellan and meeting a previous inquisitor who was also an elven mage like him was hugely cool). Descent was obvious content bait for future installments but it was still pretty cool despite all of the questions unanswered and created. At least the DLC story wise has been relevant. 

[Yaroub]

DA:I DLC was fine yes overpriced but I liked what I played. But this is why I don't like both DA:I DLC it adds to lore is understatement, we just find out one of the important part of Thedas history, and Titan something witch would shake dwarf and world society. "Lets never talk about this again. And Descent answered 0 questions and add 5 more. I love mystery but at this point DA have to much mystery even for me.

 

Yes, the Descent especially added a lot of unnecessary stuff, and left us with nothing.

 

They have great space in political affairs that they could maneuver and make something out of it, yet they keep going with godhood stuff and it's becoming cliche, titans bah, they already added a tons of lore regarding the Elven gods in the main game, yet it seems not enough, i would've preferred they shed more light about the elven gods than adding another gods like figures, it's treating the DA universe badly.

[JosieJ]

The worst?  I wouldn't say that.  Obviously, this is only my opinion, but I found The Darkspawn Chronicles and Feastday Gifts & Pranks utterly useless; I liked Leliana's Song and The Stone Prisoner very much indeed, and everything else kind of falls somewhere in the middle. And I'm only talking about DA:O DLC so far!  Pinnacle Station from ME1 was another one I could (and did) do without, although Bring Down the Sky was awesome.  I really enjoyed the major DLCs for both ME2 and DA2, and loved Citadel for ME3, although I didn't find Omega compelling enough to warrant a purchase.

 

Overpriced?  I wouldn't say that about JoH because there was a huge amount of content and I found it compelling enough to replay with several of my old characters but, as much as I enjoyed it, I thought The Descent was overpriced a little.  $9.99 would have gone down much better than $14.99.  I will get my money's worth out of it, though, as I'll also be taking several old characters through it.

[Morroian]

No? I'd argue that outside of Awakening, most of DAO's were terrible. Both Hakkon and Descent added a lot to the lore.

 

By that argument the DAO DLC added to the lore just as much as well.

[LaughingWolf]

The DLC is the worst in terms of content and story not being worth the price. The DLC's are fine little additions that are (somewhat) enjoyable, but aside from lore they don't add anything that makes them worth how much they cost.

[jedidotflow]

Mass Effect. Pinnacle Station is the worst.

[Zaalbar]

Pinnacle Station is the worst DLC Bioware has ever produced, IMO.

[TheRevanchist]

Does DAI have the worst DLC? no. Not even close. Does DAI have the most disappointing DLC? Yes. Absolutely.

 

Pinnacle Station and Feastday Items are without question the worst two DLCs Bioware have ever produced. Followed closely by Darkspawn Chronicles, Golems of Amgarrak, Return to Ostagar, and Witch Hunt.

 

Soldier's Peak, Lelianna's Song, Arrival, Bring Down the Sky, Normandy Crash Site, Firewalker, Genesis 1 and 2, the DAI Multiplayer DLCs, and the various Weapon and Armor packs for all the games would be next, moving from the bottom up.

 

Stone Prisoner, Overlord, Omega, Jaws of Hakkon, The Decent, Zaeed The Price of Revenge, and Mark of Felissa Day would be next after that.

 

From Ashes, Kasumi Stolen Memories, Leviathan, and the ME3 Multiplayer DLCs would be here, right below the top tier.

 

Finally, the best Add Ons would be Awakening, Legacy, Citadel and of course Lair of the Shadow Broker.

 

The DAI DLCs are not the worst, but they are the most disappointing. They are disappointing because I had high hopes. DAI is a great game that is bogged down by serious flaws. Despite these flaws I found myself loving most of the experience and was really looking forward to the DLCs. What we've been getting does not live up to their previous track record for DLCs. Bioware DLCs, when at their finest, take the best aspects of the base game, crank it to 11 and add new, unique mechanics. Lair did this, Citadel did this, Legacy did this and Awakening did this. Jaws of Hakkon and The Decent are not bad DLCs. Are they overpriced? Yes I believe so, but they are not a net negative. The negatives cancel out the positives 1 for 1. They are 5 out of 10's. These DLCs did not really innovate, they didn't really try anything new mechanically. They instead follow the path of "more of the same." You could argue the combat of The Decent is a change in mechanics but....really all they did was create damage sponges and slapped a crap ton of immunities on them. The plots were nothing to write home about. Same crap DA DLCs have always done.

 

Vague hints about big, super epic mystery's that may or may not ever get addressed. They never really addressed Golems of Amgarrak, they just reused the asset in DA2 in a totally unrelated event. The DLC was literally pointless padding that served zero purpose. It foreshadowed nothing, it built up to nothing. Witch Hunt is very similar, A DLC that served little purpose beyond teasing the fan base, only to once again tease the fan base again in DAI, about the same damn thing, and just remove the character it was about after only 2 scenes. The DLC basically also amounted to nothing. Mark of Felissa Day has so far amounted to nothing, it's only purpose being to show off Orlesian Culture, fashion etc. That might be fine for some of you, but I want more relevance from my DLCs. So far Legacy is the only DLC that has been relevant to the DA setting, the only one that has done anything with the concepts it introduced. Even Awakening, as great as it is, has so far had zero impact on DA's setting.

 

I am disappointed by DAI's DLCs because they are following the same pattern all those others did. They just keep introducing and teasing more and more "massively, world shatteringly, unbelievably huge!" secrets and mysteries that continue to slowly but surely re-write and retcon the entire written history of Thedas, because "GOTCHA! ALL the stuff we wrote before was TOTALL BULLSHIT! Surprise!" On top of all this, they just keep piling it on more and more with present day stuff too. "omg Qunari invasion! omg Royal Succession crisis in three different countries! omg Grey Warden Civil War! omg your companion/love interest was the real bad guy! Speculations for everyone!!!!111!1!". Every time they release anything DA related. Books, comics, games, DLC, whatever. They almost always answer about one or two questions, but always give us like 10 more. This cycle just keeps going. We're up to about 5 answers with 75 questions. That in itself is not a bad thing, leaving cliffhangers and dangling threads can be good. But somehow I doubt they ever plan to address them all, or even half of them. Their track record suggest they just throw out about 10 things until 1 of them sticks. They then drop the other 9 and run with the 1. This has the potential to create a really big mess. This is why I find the DLCs a disappointment. It is just further proof of a pattern that worries me about DA's future.

[DuskWanderer]

Pinnacle Station was worse. Origins DLC wasn't all that great (Some shining moments, mostly the supporting cast)

 

Inquisition's DLC was all right. 

[OdanUrr]

Everyone will have a different answer to that question depending on what they want or expect from a DLC. What exactly is the baseline for comparison here? Story? Characters? Gameplay? Lore? Does it even matter? I found JoH to be entertaining enough and Descent to be an utter disappointment. Ultimately, I would've preferred an Act 3 to DA:I.

[Beren Von Ostwick]

Does DA:I have the worst DLC of any Bioware game?

The problem with this question is that it is like asking, "Does Star Trek:<insert series of  your choice here> have the worst captain of any Star Trek series?"

 

Sure, but Captain <insert appropriate name here> is still awesome, just a smidge less awesome than the rest.

[Nefla]

Well, it's the first BioWare game that I didn't buy any DLC for. Maybe the next one will have the stuff I like rather than being combat and exploration focused.

[Al Foley]

IDK I am having trouble deciding if this or ME 3 has the best DLC of any BioWare game.  Citadel was amazing.  And Jaws of Hakkon(off) was thouroughly enjoyable, much more so then I gave it credit for.  It seemed to be the formula they started in the original game 'perfected'.  It had a solid main plot, and also a solid side plot for the zone at large which even supported the main plot.  Very well done.  Descent however was frickin amazing, and left me clamoring for more. 

[Merengues 1945]

I'm still seeing all this post saying they think it was overpriced both Jaws and Descent... I paid 5-6 dollars each for Xbox 360 and One, is that expensive for you? Are you mad? I would prefer them being free of course, who wouldn't, but saying that is overpriced when is pretty much the same price some pay for just a few skins and a multiplayer map is just bananas.

 

But overall I agree on them being slightly dissapointing after they kinda promised a lot of new stuff.

 

I'm somewhat mad becuase I had to buy a damned xbox one because my 360 would no longer receive DLCs, so I would expect them to be mind-bending.... But surely they are not as bad as Pinnacle Station or Golems.

[Vicious]

Mass Effect 1 was the worst 

[OdanUrr]

Descent however was frickin amazing, and left me clamoring for more. 

 

This I cannot understand but, like I said, to each his own.

[Morroian]

Does DAI have the worst DLC? no. Not even close. Does DAI have the most disappointing DLC? Yes. Absolutely.

 

Pinnacle Station and Feastday Items are without question the worst two DLCs Bioware have ever produced. Followed closely by Darkspawn Chronicles, Golems of Amgarrak, Return to Ostagar, and Witch Hunt.

 

 

Without having played it seems to me that Descent bears some similarities to Golems of Amgarrak.

[cindercatz]

I actually liked Mass 1's and Origins' dlc, for that time. It wasn't up to par with Rockstar's offerings, but it wasn't bad from $5-7. Origins' worst dlc I thought was at minimum a fun time at a reasonable price. Citadel, Awakening, and Lair of The Shadow Broker are by far the best so far. All of ME3's was good to great. I wish they'd shoot for that standard every time.

 

DA:I... Well, it's the first game of theirs where I'm skipping story dlc, or waiting for the sale anyway. Everything I hear makes them sound like minor improvements on the whole open world experiment, and everything seems combat heavy. I don't think they did the greatest job there in the base game. Those are the complaint areas, not really what I'm looking for too much more of. So at $15 per, that's just too expensive. I'm looking for tight story and character focused stuff, high standards at that price. I don't want to be wasting time with filler content. That's like paying a quarter of the cost of the main game. I don't overpay dlc out of some desire for corporate charity.

 

Things I can get at $15: A great album, an entire season of anime, a kick*** dinner, a complete small studio game. I think Awakening, the whole thing, was $15, right? Best use: Give it to someone that could really use it for a meal and a shower. It's just too expensive for what it is, better spent elsewhere.

[ESTAQ99]

Do resentful people keep posting passive aggressive questions as an excuse to winge and moan? 

 

Personally I have loved and purchased all the DLC for DAI and love every bit of it. All money well spent and I will happily buy whatever else they make.

 

Sorry it didn't meat your standards. I suggest you don't buy any more and perhaps just wait for DA4 or stop playing altogether.

 

 

Do imbecile people keep posting more aggressive than passive questions as an excuse to insult whoever may disagree with their opinion?

 

So you said "personally, I have loved all the DLC". Well, Isn't just that your opinion? Is it that your personal opinion counts as more important because you liked these DAI DLC? Do you think that entitles you to not only post freely but also gives you free passes to insult those who dare to differ? Do you really think that discouraging forum members not only from posting, but also from buying future EA/Bioware games do any favors to that company? This is not a fansite, it is a forum and if it only have people like you, praising Bioware and no giving space for critiques and different opinions, this place will end up looking like a congregation of morons.

 

So next time you read a post you completely disagree with, take a deep breath, count to 1,000,000,000 or whatever works best for you before jumping to use your scare tactics. Trust me, they won't silence those who want to express their opinion. It will just invite more people to do the same.

[thruaglassdarkly]

I'd have to say no.  DA:O is a fantastic main game, but I think we have rose colored glasses when it comes to the DLC content (I say this having recently played through the whole thing again).  With the exception of Awakening, DA:Os DLC content is not very good, and there was I lot I did not love in Awakening. From a high level perspective, I would say that Mass Effect DLCs outpace the Dragon Age DLCs.  This started with Lair of the Shadowbroker which, like The Citadel for ME3, was one of those rare instances where the side content offered a better experience than the main game.  With the exception of maybe Legacy in DAII, I've never really felt that from a DA DLC.  Certainly not from one attached to Dragon Age: Origins. 

 

I think Jaws of Hakkon is underrated. Start to finish it's a well-developed story and the Hakkonites provide an interesting challenge that can circumvent exploits from the main game. The DLC was mostly guilty of not being what everyone asked for, and for directing story content away from the main cast (and probably the whole exclusivity mess that people were angry about). There isn't a lot for your party members to say and do but the professor and Scout Harding are interesting characters and I like the way the narrative turns. I'm fine with new focus characters as long as its not a chore to spend time with them.

 

IMO The Decent is a little lack luster from a story perspective and the new characters aren't strong.  But its a hell of a dungeon crawl in a great setting with challenging and fun combat scenarios.  I would take it over Agmarak or Warden's Keep or anything involving Shale.  The last Darkspawn nest scenario was worth the price of admission for me.

 

So in short, DA:I offers neither the best nor the worst I have seen from Bioware. Its what I expected.

[TheRevanchist]

Without having played it seems to me that Descent bears some similarities to Golems of Amgarrak.

 

It does indeed, however I ranked Golems so low because they have proven it literally meant nothing. It was just one of those ideas they threw out there and abandoned. It has literally nothing to offer anyone. The Decent has only just released. It is too soon to lump into the same category as Golems until we give them enough time to show if they're actually going to expand upon the concepts it presents. The story implications are really the only thing going for it. The combat was just a grindy joke, the companions were basically not there and it was made more "difficult" with lazy methods because I guess the fans want Dragon Age to be freakin Dark Souls now. Yes I know that is an exaggeration, don't harp on it.

 

TL;DR The Decent is currently not as bad because it has not yet wasted 100% of what little potential it has. If the entire next game and it's DLCs pass by without addressing the implications, it will go right down next to Golems in term of worthless crap.   

[leaguer of one]

Yes

Then you need to play the dlc of other bioware  games then.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

I wouldn't really know. Can't be bothered to pay £12 for them and I find the open world in this game boring so I ain't in a hurry. Just waiting for some 50% off EA sale to grab them eventually.

 

DA2 had the best DLC anyway (And this is coming from someone who doesn't really like DA2) and Awakening made up for DAO.

[Bob Walker]

Golems of Amgarrak is appalling. It's like torture.