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Does DA:I have the worst DLC of any Bioware game?


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I couldn't care any less about Liara. The whole self contained story , well done mysterious vibe, new awesome character know as Vasir, and the outstanding soundtrack made it truly special. Instead of getting stuck in silly puzzles and time increase enemies, we get a straight forward story focused on someone the entire Mass Effect fanbase wondered about.


 

Lotsb push was that it was more of an action movie closer to spy movies not that it was complex.



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Lotsb push was that it was more of an action movie closer to spy movies not that it was complex.


You can keep telling yourself that, but LoTSB is miles, miles better than DAI's DLCs, so I have nothing to argue against here.

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You can keep telling yourself that, but LoTSB is miles, miles better than DAI's DLCs, so I have nothing to argue against here.

I'm not saying it's bad or worst then dai dlc. It's one of bw best. My point is that A. it was not complex and b. it's goals are different.

DA dlc are normal based around slow starts with discovery, investigation, and lots of mob fight till you get to a big surprise.

Lotsb does not have the same goals. It's basically a James bond flick in a dlc.



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I'm not saying it's bad or worst then dai dlc. It's one of bw best. My point is that A. it was not complex and b. it's goals are different.
DA dlc are normal based around slow starts with discovery, investigation, and lots of mob fight till you get to a big surprise.
Lotsb does not have the same goals. It's basically a James bond flick in a dlc.



Okay, but I still think these ones are one of the bad ones. So, goodnight.

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Okay, but I still think these ones are one of the bad ones. So, goodnight.

Not even. Their have been so much worse. As i started before...

 The dlc of the past were no different. Look at Me1 dlc or dao dlc. Bring down the sky was you you trowing yourself at mobs of bartarians with a light story and the other dlc was just a practice exsercerise. DAO a dlc story where you just fought darkspawn to the replays of the scene of Ostigard, a dlc with the plot from scooby doo, a revenge/love story,a dungen crawler with cheap golems and playing where's waldo with Morrigan. And all of tht was more combat then story.



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Well, since we haven't seen all of the DLC, the answer is a resounding "There is no way to tell. Stop making assumptions based on incomplete information."

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Aside from Tela Vasir's character complexity, Shadow Broker's story depth is wafer-thin.

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Aside from Tela Vasir's character complexity, Shadow Broker's story depth is wafer-thin.

Thank you. This is not hard to see.



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I couldn't care any less about Liara. The whole self contained story , well done mysterious vibe, new awesome character know as Vasir, and the outstanding soundtrack made it truly special. Instead of getting stuck in silly puzzles and time increase enemies, we get a straight forward story focused on someone the entire Mass Effect fanbase wondered about.


Um, the whole DLC is Liara-centric. Who winds up being the new Shadow Broker again? That's right, Liara. So basically, what you're saying is "Oops, I guess it was just more of the same". It had to be, it was, after all, capable of being played midgame in ME 2. That's the problem with DLC, it's always tied to the game it's in, and it's always more of the same stuff that was in that game. Always. There was no mysterious vibe, the Shadow Broker was trying to kill Liara. What's so mysterious? Vasir was so memorable that I'm about to look them up to see who they were, oh, maybe it's that other Spectre that was working for the SB, the one that wasn't very bright, trying to take a hostage when dealing with another Spectre? Evidently you're misremembering some stuff, because frankly, she was just another idiot with a boss fight...
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Um, the whole DLC is Liara-centric. Who winds up being the new Shadow Broker again? That's right, Liara. So basically, what you're saying is "Oops, I guess it was just more of the same". It had to be, it was, after all, capable of being played midgame in ME 2. That's the problem with DLC, it's always tied to the game it's in, and it's always more of the same stuff that was in that game. Always. There was no mysterious vibe, the Shadow Broker was trying to kill Liara. What's so mysterious? Vasir was so memorable that I'm about to look them up to see who they were, oh, maybe it's that other Spectre that was working for the SB, the one that wasn't very bright, trying to take a hostage when dealing with another Spectre? Evidently you're misremembering some stuff, because frankly, she was just another idiot with a boss fight...


I'm sad you think so badly of this DLC when most people don't. I won't repeat the same words and get into this infinite cycle, but I'll tell you this : LoTSB is considered one of Bioware's Best DLC, if not the best, for a reason :) Mass Effect has the best ones overall, so that's not a surprise, but that's not the point here.

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I'm sad you think so badly of this DLC when most people don't. I won't repeat the same words and get into this infinite cycle, but I'll tell you this : LoTSB is considered one of Bioware's Best DLC, if not the best, for a reason :) Mass Effect has the best ones overall, so that's not a surprise, but that's not the point here.


The inconvenient truth here is that I enjoyed it. Played it for every Shep once I got it, even if it was post game. However, that doesn't change the fact that it was, as all DLC is, more of the same of what was happening in ME 2. The only unique thing about it was more face time with Liara, and her actually in your squad for a short while. Other than that, and it could have been any of the other recruitment missions, and it actually fits as one, even though she leaves the squad immediately after.

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Again, you're wrong as you could get. Not only I've said that Dragon Age INQUISITION'S STORY DLCs are lame, but I actually suggested they should create more complex ones, which seems to be the latest one's case. You talk like if this game represented everyone working at Bioware, when there's two other studios doing two different games. So, no, I'm not bashing Bioware, but expressing my discontentment with DAI's DLCs, that's it, you clearly fail to understand that and makes your own stuff which nobody said a thing about it.

 

I'm pretty sure you didn't read what I said. I don't even know where you pulled "you talk if this game represented everyone working at Bioware" from. I haven't claimed that you have done anything other than "expressing my discontentment with DAI's DLCs". You're talking to me like you're imagining things that I haven't said. Whatever, I don't know how to make what my point was any clearer. If you don't understand what I'm trying to say, I'll leave it at that. 



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The last two DLC have been mostly about lore and world building. It's not a bad thing, I personally loved them but I do agree in terms of connection to the Inquisition and/or its interests, they seem to fall short. 

 

I would've loved some sort of Kirkwall DLC (We go there just to go the Emporium after all), maybe about the aftermath of the Mage and Templar war instead of a footnote...


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Origins DLCs were rather bland. DAI was far better.

I take that back. At least Origins DLC and the game itself played after installing the DLCs, unlike my misfortune of buying Descent. First it didn't show up in the game, went through the nonsense I found in the tech forum, nothing. Uninstalled it, reinstalled it again and now my game won't start.



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I take that back. At least Origins DLC and the game itself played after installing the DLCs, unlike my misfortune of buying Descent. First it didn't show up in the game, went through the nonsense I found in the tech forum, nothing. Uninstalled it, reinstalled it again and now my game won't start.

 

Lucky you, I'm still fighting a brave battle with some of the DLC from Dragon Age: Origins. My sympathies about your trouble with Dragon Age: Inquisition's DLC.
 



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I really liked both of the DLCs. But then, I basically also liked the xploration of DA:I. Apparently, I'm too easy to be won over by simple Vistas.

 

 

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But seriously, that wide Shot of the City within the Titan... :wub:



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Andrew Lucas, just give it up. You cant win with these people.

Their logic is:

- If you talk positive about DAI, then it is fact and representative of the majority.

- If you talk negative about DAI, then it is just your opinion and does not hold any truth as you are part of a minority.

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i actually think it is the WORST GAME of bioware, ever. Even worse than DA2.


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Ever since I beat DA:I I've been patiently waiting for a high quality DLC that will continue the story and maybe answer some of the questions that were raised with the ending. It's been 9 months now, and we haven't gotten anything close to that.

 

 

AGREE

 

Here my personal opinion: http://forum.bioware...wares-monopole/

 

 

 

PS: I think DAI is the BEST game Bioware ever made. I see a lot of mistakes they have made, but it is STILL their best game. Even better than DAO. Just my personal opinion.



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Then you clearly don't know what a rpg is.

This game was clearly made to appease those kids who define world of warcraft a roleplaying game. But the truth is: this game is junk. While dragon age 2 was horribly developed and even more horribly written, at least it was still some sortof rpg. DA Inquisition is nothing more than an offline MMO with a stupid plot. Now, i understand you are a fanboy of bioware....i was, too, before dragon age 2 and mass effect 2. But now that time is gone. And if you are honest, you will agree that this game sucks badly as rpg, and it is nothing more than decent than mmo. Their incompetence of delivering a good product gained them the title of ''worst US company'' for 2 years in a row.

I have always been a faithful bioware player, but since they were bought by EA, the quality of their products sinked hard. I won't buy any more games from this publisher....The future of role playing games appears to be with CD Projekt red, actually.



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Andrew Lucas, just give it up. You cant win with these people.

Their logic is:

- If you talk positive about DAI, then it is fact and representative of the majority.

- If you talk negative about DAI, then it is just your opinion and does not hold any truth as you are part of a minority.


Not quite. Both sides reviews are only opinions, but the facts indicate that the majority have a positive outlook. Some posters continue to state the opposite with no evidence to support such an assertion.

Basically, prejudice has blinded some to logic, and some see their opinions as facts. And it is rather obvious.

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Then you clearly don't know what a rpg is.

This game was clearly made to appease those kids who define world of warcraft a roleplaying game. But the truth is: this game is junk. While dragon age 2 was horribly developed and even more horribly written, at least it was still some sortof rpg. DA Inquisition is nothing more than an offline MMO with a stupid plot. Now, i understand you are a fanboy of bioware....i was, too, before dragon age 2 and mass effect 2. But now that time is gone. And if you are honest, you will agree that this game sucks badly as rpg, and it is nothing more than decent than mmo. Their incompetence of delivering a good product gained them the title of ''worst US company'' for 2 years in a row.

I have always been a faithful bioware player, but since they were bought by EA, the quality of their products sinked hard. I won't buy any more games from this publisher....The future of role playing games appears to be with CD Projekt red, actually.

 

Neither do you, if you think that Inquisition doesn't qualify. 



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Then you clearly don't know what a rpg is.

This game was clearly made to appease those kids who define world of warcraft a roleplaying game. But the truth is: this game is junk. While dragon age 2 was horribly developed and even more horribly written, at least it was still some sortof rpg. DA Inquisition is nothing more than an offline MMO with a stupid plot. Now, i understand you are a fanboy of bioware....i was, too, before dragon age 2 and mass effect 2. But now that time is gone. And if you are honest, you will agree that this game sucks badly as rpg, and it is nothing more than decent than mmo. Their incompetence of delivering a good product gained them the title of ''worst US company'' for 2 years in a row.

I have always been a faithful bioware player, but since they were bought by EA, the quality of their products sinked hard. I won't buy any more games from this publisher....The future of role playing games appears to be with CD Projekt red, actually.


Funny that since I am 58, have never played WoW, and have been playing RPG's since '75. Clearly someone is incorrect in their assertions.

But I do agree that DAI is a solo MMO; said so in my own review on Amazon months ago. That by itself is not a bad thing at all. While I cannot play most MMO's, SWTOR was quite enjoyable for a long time, and played it solo as well.

Honestly, bias has blinded some to see past their blinders of prejudice.

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OP I think you just prefer ME over DAI. It is fine and legit but a totally different franchise. No matter what they do you'll still prefer ME DLCs.



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Funny that since I am 58, have never played WoW, and have been playing RPG's since '75. Clearly someone is incorrect in their assertions.

But I do agree that DAI is a solo MMO; said so in my own review on Amazon months ago. That by itself is not a bad thing at all. While I cannot play most MMO's, SWTOR was quite enjoyable for a long time, and played it solo as well.

Honestly, bias has blinded some to see past their blinders of prejudice.

 

A single player MMO is NOT an rpg. You just made my point.
I actually enjoy SWTOR: i want to play an MMO, i payed for an MMO, and i got an MMO.
But if i pay for a RPG and i get, instead, an MMO (poorly made under many aspects, too), then i will be upset. Most of the side quests are fillers, or gathering quests. It is no more than a grinding/famring game. The areas are too huges, they're just misleading. The exploration quickly becomes boring....If i wanted to play skyrim, i would have just played skyrim.

Dlcs are clearly cut off the game, and added back in under further pament.....the whole da: inquisition plot is based on a DLC.