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We understand (and as is evidenced by this thread) that this may upset some users, but our hope is this will create a stronger forum community in the long run.
Well, there is a pretty clear statement abut those of us who posted in there.
I translate this into "the kind of people who liked the off topic forums are not the kind of people we want around here, so we closed the OT section to get rid of them". I mean, how else would you interpret that?
To answer a few questions:
We will continue to monitor how things go with these new changes and make future decisions based on the results.
For now, Off-Topic will remain closed. We understand (and as is evidenced by this thread) that this may upset some users, but our hope is this will create a stronger forum community in the long run. to those of you who are upset, please remember to express yourselves in ways that are respectful and in keeping with the terms of use of these boards. Anyone uttering threats or using excessively harsh and abusive language will receive moderation action.
Question. How is removing part of the community going to help the community? I spent pretty much all my time in OT until I get round to getting a PS4 for DAI.
Seriously Bioware. The only forum I bothered visiting here was the OT one. Great job there.
It's amazing this thread has yet to be locked. BioVare is feeding off of our pain...
This thread won't be locked for now because it is a way for the rest of you to communicate with us on how you feel about this decision. People who are violating the TOS in this thread, however, may have their posts moderated.
Thank you Mr. Pierse but the question still remains....why did Bioware decide to close the Off-Topic section in the first place ?
So is anyone starting an off topic group?
Guess I'm not part of a strong forum community. As to make it stronger you have to weaken the hell out of it first.
We are continuing to look at other changes to the forums (such as changes to groups) (...)
I would expect no less.
To answer a few questions:
We will continue to monitor how things go with these new changes and make future decisions based on the results.
For now, Off-Topic will remain closed. We understand (and as is evidenced by this thread) that this may upset some users, but our hope is this will create a stronger forum community in the long run. to those of you who are upset, please remember to express yourselves in ways that are respectful and in keeping with the terms of use of these boards. Anyone uttering threats or using excessively harsh and abusive language will receive moderation action.
Off-Topic discussions in other areas will be locked, and posters who are repeat violators or who are found to be purposefully derailing other areas will have their posting moderated. We will continue to allow master threads like the Twitter and Drinkquisition threads, that are slightly off-topic at times. That being said, people actively working to drive such threads further off-topic may start to receive moderation. Likewise, threads comparing BioWare titles to their contemporaries are also perfectly fine (though as always we do ask that people try to find an appropriate existing thread before starting a new one).
We are continuing to look at other changes to the forums (such as changes to groups) and ways we can improve the community as a whole, but nothing has been set as of yet. We want to see how these initial changes go first, and will decide what to do next from there.
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We are continuing to look at other changes to the forums (such as changes to groups) and ways we can improve the community as a whole, but nothing has been set as of yet. We want to see how these initial changes go first, and will decide what to do next from there.
First of all, thanks for the response.
Secondly, call my cynical but the quoted part looks to me like "oh and groups are going to get removed soon™ too" ... wouldn't be the first time.
I believe about right damn now is the time to engage in some meaningful BioWare-to-Community discourse to see what you think necessitates improvements in the first place. Removing options such as outlets for offtopic discussions objectively doesn't improve anything, it just changes the environment which governs interaction options, whether that actually comes out as a positive or negative is quite frankly still solely determined by every single individual.
This thread won't be locked for now because it is a way for the rest of you to communicate with us on how you feel about this decision. People who are violating the TOS in this thread, however, may have their posts moderated.
In that case I hope this thread lives long and prosper as a constant reminder without being closed because "the point's been made and now its just being rehashed". Too many threads in the past have been closed with that reason used.
Guess I'm not part of a strong forum community. As to make it stronger you have to weaken the hell out of it first.
Like a bone, it must be broken before it can be hardened...
We understand (and as is evidenced by this thread) that this may upset some users,
oh really, do you? doesnt look like you do.
but our hope is this will create a stronger forum community in the long run.
i can tell you what you´ll get: a much smaller active community. if thats your goal, then... well, mission accomplished.
to those of you who are upset, please remember to express yourselves in ways that are respectful and in keeping with the terms of use of these boards.
"respectful" like telling us "**** you, the offtopic forum is now locked for no rational reason and we dont care what you [your community!] think about it"? what goes around, comes around...
For now, Off-Topic will remain closed. We understand (and as is evidenced by this thread) that this may upset some users, (...)
Would you like to run a poll on that?
our hope is this will create a stronger forum community in the long run.
Surely this thread alone is already telling you that maybe, just maybe, the opposite is happening?
To answer a few questions:
We will continue to monitor how things go with these new changes and make future decisions based on the results.
For now, Off-Topic will remain closed. We understand (and as is evidenced by this thread) that this may upset some users, but our hope is this will create a stronger forum community in the long run. to those of you who are upset, please remember to express yourselves in ways that are respectful and in keeping with the terms of use of these boards. Anyone uttering threats or using excessively harsh and abusive language will receive moderation action.
Off-Topic discussions in other areas will be locked, and posters who are repeat violators or who are found to be purposefully derailing other areas will have their posting moderated. We will continue to allow master threads like the Twitter and Drinkquisition threads, that are slightly off-topic at times. That being said, people actively working to drive such threads further off-topic may start to receive moderation. Likewise, threads comparing BioWare titles to their contemporaries are also perfectly fine (though as always we do ask that people try to find an appropriate existing thread before starting a new one).
We are continuing to look at other changes to the forums (such as changes to groups) and ways we can improve the community as a whole, but nothing has been set as of yet. We want to see how these initial changes go first, and will decide what to do next from there.
You made the decision before the new changes without any special consulting or looking into the users’ needs.
If you understand that this decision upsets people, why are you doing it?
If your hope is to create a stronger forum community, how is the closing of the generic discussion’s section going to help us in your purpose?
You haven’t explained it.
Good luck finding all the off-topic discussions in other areas, if you can label them easily. I remember discussions from other areas (idiotic, but not OT) being dumped in Off-Topic; clearly that is the image and the purpose you had for the section before closing it.
It seems more like a hazardous experiment than a wisely meditated (even if not agreed) social work choice.
Is this goodbye....? Where am I going to go to talk to everyone now? I have some people on FB or I can talk through The Shelter forums, but what about the rest? There's too many people I want to continue talking to.
Now I'm sad
BioWare you suck!
For now, Off-Topic will remain closed. We understand (and as is evidenced by this thread) that this may upset some users, but our hope is this will create a stronger forum community in the long run. to those of you who are upset, please remember to express yourselves in ways that are respectful and in keeping with the terms of use of these boards.
I'm curious, how exactly does locking entire forums with no warning while people are mid-conversation create a stronger forum community?
How does doing it a second time in less than two years create a stronger forum community? Did it work the first time? If so, then when why was it necessary to do it a second time? If it didn't work the first time, then why would doing it a second time be expected to work better?
Why would giving no warning of these changes before making them create a stronger community? It feels very disrespectful to interrupt eveyone while they're in the middle of something, take it all away from them, and say, "Now while you sit there wondering why I've done this to you, I assure you that it's because I think it will make you happier."
Does that sound like something you would hear and think, "Yes, that's a reasonable thing to say/do?" How would you feel if someone did that you and then said, "But it's for your own good, and we hope you'll like it better?"
I think the message that you're not hearing from this thread is that common courtesy and respect from you and the site's staff are what we want. You could have discussed this with the community before locking everything. If you want to "create a stronger community" then begin by treating us with respect.
Respect is a two-way street.
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For now, Off-Topic will remain closed. We understand (and as is evidenced by this thread) that this may upset some users, but our hope is this will create a stronger forum community in the long run.
Would you like to run a poll on that?
Most of the people who primarily posted in the off-topic section don't actually need to be here.Question. How is removing part of the community going to help the community? I spent pretty much all my time in OT until I get round to getting a PS4 for DAI.
For now, Off-Topic will remain closed. We understand (and as is evidenced by this thread) that this may upset some users, but our hope is this will create a stronger forum community in the long run.
How? How could this possibly create a stronger community? I do not understand the expectations here.
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