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#101
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A friendly reminder to everyone that emotional kneejerk reactions (regardles of how much I empathize right now) aren't the best way to try and persuade the BioWare folks from thinking over some decisions. Oh, and I'm not directing this at people who are disappointed, just at people who are the particular kind of vocal in the heat of it right now.

 

 

I'm sure BioWare is letting the change blow over for now and once things are settled, maybe, just maybe there can be a discourse on whether all the changes were required and/or are beneficial for the community, or not.

 

That's what I'm hoping for......



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They barely moderated it in the freaking first place. Cassandra threads would stay up for days even weeks.

 

There's been a lack of active modding since the forum change



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Thanks for derailing the MGSV: TPP hype train BioWare. 

 

We were so close!  :crying:


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But lighting torches and sharpening pitchforks isn't working in our favour to dissuade that notion, quite the contrary.

 

Yep, that didn't really help saving the ME-Endings as well...maybe we should send them Off-Topic-Muffins? That at least got us the pointless new ending-Free-LC I never used out of spite...


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Closing it, and consolidating topics, will make moderation simpler. Dunno if that's the reason, but it's possible.

 

My guess as well...besides I don't think there's much moderators left , they probably tried to cut costs or something.

And people who were moderating the place on their free time like Allan Schumacher left the forum.


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There is a tale.

A team of doctors had to cure a little kid, who had issues with his leg not feeling well and walking properly.

The doctors never cared too much about that kid, because he wasn't paying the cure in the end, occasionally they did some placebo on him to let him believe they were doing their job.

The kid went worse and worse: instead of intervening to cure the leg once and for all, the doctors decided for amputation.

 

Now, because doctors didn't have the will to cure a non-paying patient, although this was free of charge, that kid is walking without a leg.



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Ah well, i expect a mass migration to Groups, give me a call when someone creates a Behind the Monitor group......or FO4 or CK2 :D


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There's been a lack of active modding since the forum change

 

Oh so the other sections are just as bad? I ran away from the DA and ME sections when they were being properly moderated. It must be a nightmare now.


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It takes some colossal jerks to give your customers the finger like this.


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The OT section was a great idea to keep people coming to the site for when the next game was announced. The company could open a new forum and the community would see it and jump on it with ideas and get hyped. With reduced traffic, that's not going to happen.

 

What exactly happened to make you guys eliminate that part of the forum? Are you on a 10 GB plan? I'd suggest you guys contact your ISP and get on an unlimited corporate plan. I think it's a bit cheaper that way.


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#111
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What Fidite, Simfam, CrazyRah, LPPrince, Fast Jimmy and many others said.



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There is a tale.

A team of doctors had to cure a little kid, who had issues with his leg not feeling well and walking properly.

The doctors never cared too much about that kid, because he wasn't paying the cure in the end, occasionally they did some placebo on him to let him believe they were doing their job.

The kid went worse and worse: instead of intervening to cure the leg once and for all, the doctors decided for amputation.

 

Now, because doctors didn't have the will to cure a non-paying patient, although this was free of charge, that kid is walking without a leg.

the moral of the story is that everyone hates children?


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#113
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I am not sure that combining your fiction area with other stuff was so awesome.....but okay....you were going to do it anyway, BioWare, so....we'll make due.

A lot of stuff is going to be more user work for it now, because all that indexed stuff we had is going to go flying all over the place now.



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Should the thread title even have "BSN" in it? It stands for "BioWare Social Network." Shouldn't the acronym be BSGACWDWY? (BioWare Says Go Away Customers We Don't Want You)


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#115
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Well, this was a tad... reckless. The off-topic (lounge) served as an adequate substitute for gamers to discuss a variety of topics while keeping the main boards free of such off-topic discussion. This move will surely cause the main topics to become riddled in spam, as well as causing the forums to appear rather strict and desolate for all newcomers as the BSN community will surely dwindle over the coming months. 

 

This is no longer a true social network without the social component of the forum, i.e off-topic discussion. Even groups are apparently inadequate, as I was once a member of a group which was used as a chat room which was closed down by the Mods due to its discussion not being related to Bioware games.



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@Fidite

 

I appreciate what you're saying but at the moment I don't think anybody is up for rational conversation.

 

It's pretty hard to stay calm and talk it out when they've just literally kicked us in the balls with a steel-toe boot.

 

Are there alternatives?

 

I suppose so.

 

But I doubt we can change their minds with this at all.

 

That's me being immature and a pessimist tho'


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Oh so the other sections are just as bad? I ran away from the DA and ME sections when they were being properly moderated. It must be a nightmare now.

 

To be completely honest, the past couple months the DA and ME section was better than the overall Off-topic 



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@Conal Pierse

 

Any changes to groups being considered?



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Reducing bandwidth? By throwing out a couple of people who shared text? Keep in mind, this is a subsidiary to a company that has servers for the likes of Origin. I would think they can afford a bit of ASCII being transmitted through their precious cables

 

"A bit of Ascii?" Cool.

 

Let us look at the source code of such a page. It current has 

 

119917 characters. Each character is worth 1 byte.

 

If we assume that on average we get 1 page reload per hour mintues, 

1 character = 1 byte

24 x 119917 = 2878008/hr

 

Assume the person is on it everyday.

 

2878008 x 30 = 86 Megabytes per month

 

If each user is worth such a number, compare that to 100s and thousands of user using the forums. Of course off topic is not generating most of this data but if I had to put a cost benefit analysis down, off topic wouldn't be worth ****. Notice that the forum is self sustaining and is not generating any income through ads. They are practically paying to run it

 

 


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To be completely honest, the past couple months the DA and ME section was better than the overall Off-topic 

 

Inpossibruh!



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Or you could delete the German/French/Pol forums. *cough*

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@Conal Pierse

 

Any changes to groups being considered?

HELL NO


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the moral of the story is that everyone hates children?

The morals of the story are three

 

1 - Dealing with a problem simply annihilating the symptoms you don't want to manage is not solving

2 - Don't rely on lazy doctors, they don't care for your needs and instead they use a placebo to let you stay calm

3 - Every user here is crippled now


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#124
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@Fidite

 

I appreciate what you're saying but at the moment I don't think anybody is up for rational conversation.

 

It's pretty hard to stay calm and talk it out when they've just literally kicked us in the balls with a steel-toe boot.

 

Are there alternatives?

 

I suppose so.

 

But I doubt we can change their minds with this at all.

 

That's me being immature and a pessimist tho'

 

Do you have yahoo messenger, Google+, What's App, Telegram or similar texty programs?



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There is a tale.
A team of doctors had to cure a little kid, who had issues with his leg not feeling well and walking properly.
The doctors never cared too much about that kid, because he wasn't paying the cure in the end, occasionally they did some placebo on him to let him believe they were doing their job.
The kid went worse and worse: instead of intervening to cure the leg once and for all, the doctors decided for amputation.
 
Now, because doctors didn't have the will to cure a non-paying patient, although this was free of charge, that kid is walking without a leg.

 
But didn't the doctors already leave after they mucked up that other patient, you know, the one with the registration number DA2-ME3? I think one of them is drinking beer for a living now.
So this amputation was performed by the nurse, I fear. ;)
 

"A bit of Ascii?" Cool.

Let us look at the source code of such a page. It current has

119917 characters. Each character is worth 1 byte.

If we assume that on average we get 1 page reload per hour mintues,
1 character = 1 byte
24 x 119917 = 2878008/hr

Assume the person is on it everyday.

2878008 x 30 = 86 Megabytes per month

If each user is worth such a number, compare that to 100s and thousands of user using the forums. Of course off topic is not generating most of this data but if I had to put a cost benefit analysis down, off topic wouldn't be worth ****. Notice that the forum is self sustaining and is not generating any income through ads. They are practically paying to run it






You can search for any mathematical expression, using functions such as: sin, cos, sqrt, etc. You can find a complete list of functio


Yea, ok, let's assume I really load 86MB of off topic forum per month, which may be realistic. I also downloaded ME3 and DA:I from EA's servers. That is the equivalent of me browsing off topic for about 30 years. And I re-installed ME3 about 10 times by now.
As for OT being worthless, there are plenty of reasons why it isn't, most of which have been mentioned in this thread multiple times. It's ridiculous to close it down because of bandwidth.


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