Just as planned...
That too. Until someone quotes it and goes, "See? We're talking right now"
Just as planned...
That too. Until someone quotes it and goes, "See? We're talking right now"
I made a group to do something of the sort, but t didnt get used much. Maybe in a group would be beneficial- forum improvement society or something. Give us a place to discuss ideas. we cant go out without trying. I mean...they may never respond but at least we tried, right?
That's what I'm thinking at this point. I mean, no one has responded in this thread or the other one. It's just been a vacuum of silence. And unless we can show that we're truly a community then we haven't given them a reason to care.
I don't think it's meant to go anywhere , it's just a place to vent .
I think Conal said as much.
True, but that doesn't mean something productive can't come from it.
The only productive thing that'll come from this is Off Topic being opened up again. And thats if they retract their earlier sentiment that getting rid of off topic which leads to sending off topic denizens away will make the community stronger.
EWW.
I don't think it's meant to go anywhere , it's just a place to vent .
I think Conal said as much.
I've already said my piece. I'd rather do something constructive. Guess that's not in the cards right now.
Barely a day in and we already have over 50 pages! Bioware! Listen to your fans!
Barely a day in and we already have over 50 pages! Bioware! Listen to your fans!
I've got over four times the posts of anyone else in this thread. For them to listen, people need to speak up more.
To be fair though, A LOT of different people have posted in this thread.
The only productive thing that'll come from this is Off Topic being opened up again. And thats if they retract their earlier sentiment that getting rid of off topic which leads to sending off topic denizens away will make the community stronger.
EWW.
It won't get opened if all people do is continue to vent. That's the whole reason this thread is open is in the hopes that we'll just run out steam.
It won't get opened if all people do is continue to vent. That's the whole reason this thread is open is in the hopes that we'll just run out steam.
Well I won't be running out of steam any time soon. Not after all thats happened in the last 30 or so hours.
Do you think the moderators are allowed to interact? I wonder if they have been told not to converse with us.
It'd be nice if someone did outside of Twitter.
Do you think the moderators are allowed to interact? I wonder if they have been told not to converse with us.
*shrugs*
I wish Allan would come back for like one hour and tell us what made him leave and tell us how they honestly view the forums. Just one hour.
It wouldn't take an hour. Allan left because he became with friends with people here and then had to moderate them, sometimes mid-conversation and sometimes with his own bias in things. People turned on him and he grew sour to the whole community.
At least from my viewpoint. He got tired of trying to talk to people and trying to police them both at the same time. Its a monumental task to wear both hats, as a developer and a moderator. And he was doing it alone and in his off time.
It'd be nice if someone did outside of Twitter.
BioWare be like:

It wouldn't take an hour. Allan left because he became with friends with people here and then had to moderate them, sometimes mid-conversation and sometimes with his own bias in things. People turned on him and he grew sour to the whole community.
At least from my viewpoint. He got tired of trying to talk to people and trying to police them both at the same time. Its a monumental task to wear both hats, as a developer and a moderator. And he was doing it alone and in his off time.
Yeah, he never had to do as much as he did.
It'd be nice if someone did outside of Twitter.
I mean, Conal HAS a Twitter account. Not sure if anyone has gone barking up that tree, but it has to be more successful than here. Because interacting with Bioware anywhere besides their forums is always more effective.
Because interacting with Bioware anywhere besides their forums is always more effective.
And that is a sad, sad, very sad fact.
Makes me look at my post count and think I'm the Bioware fan that has wasted the most time worldwide.
Yeah, he never had to do as much as he did.
No, but he wanted to. He thought that the viewpoint that the forums were toxic and not worth talking to was false and that there could be a lot of value brought out of listening to fans on here.
Before it was all said and done, I'm sure he now thinks that was naive and a lie. I'd like to hope not, but I have a feeling.
And that is a sad, sad, very sad fact.
Makes me look at my post count and think I'm the Bioware fan that has wasted the most time worldwide.
Time's not wasted when you're getting wasted, Prince.
It'd be nice if someone did outside of Twitter.
Thing is Twitter and facebook are key.
Nothing really gets out of here unless there's a major cataclysm.
If you'd get a good letter about the decline of the moderation on the forum through the years , and then have a number of people sending that to higher ups in places where people outside of here could see...it could get attention.(Twitter/facebook)
Maybe.
We're at a low as far as forum activity goes.
It would be hard to organize in here.I'd rather not get banned.
And we might get dismissed as an untitled bunch.
But anyway might worth a try.
Barely a day in and we already have over 50 pages! Bioware! Listen to your fans!
The new Offtopic has almost double the number of posts already. ![]()
No, but he wanted to. He thought that the viewpoint that the forums were toxic and not worth talking to was false and that there could be a lot of value brought out of listening to fans on here.
Before it was all said and done, I'm sure he now thinks that was naive and a lie. I'd like to hope not, but I have a feeling.
I hope he doesn't feel that way either. He and I had great conversations, but I got the feeling towards the end of his run here he was getting tired of the forum and his coworkers might've given him a "we told you so".
Time's not wasted when you're getting wasted, Prince.
I don't get wasted so yeah, time wasted.
Well I won't be running out of steam any time soon. Not after all thats happened in the last 30 or so hours.
So the consensus is to vent in this thread for the next week or so? Until everyone wears themselves out and winds up on vroom?
So the consensus is to vent in this thread for the next week or so? Until everyone wears themselves out and winds up on vroom?
I'm not going anywhere. I'm fighting this fight no matter how futile it is. I didn't make all these friends here and have wonderful conversations over years and years to see it thrown away on a whim with barely a warning because it somehow "strengthens" this community. Yeah right.