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And now, my friends, we have guns (minor spoilers)


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#26
Lady Artifice

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The only race possess such weapons is the Qunari, but these dwarves might have descended from the ancient dwarves and created some sort of technology themselves.

 

 

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Sorry, typo lol
 

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Firearms were invented in the 12th century. And that was in a world without lyrium. 



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The next DLC will feature a machinegun weapon that attaches to the Inquisitor's hand and uses the anchor to power it and fire Fade bullets! BioWare will then make action figures and sell them in the BioWare store!



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The thing I'm upset about with them is how we don't get one or a schematic to make them.

In my opinion, even if they didn't want to make new mechanics for you to use them in your inventory and in conjunction with abilities, we should have definitely been able to pick them up and use them temporarily until they ran out of ammo/charge, like some games do with large weapons. That would have been sweet.

 

Edit: Come to think of it, ME3 did that with heavy weapons.



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So now we have dwarven guns and qunari guns. Maybe Solas knows some ancient elven artifacts (guns) that will be revealed in the next DLC?



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"The magic is the most dangerous thing in the world"
Pls... this is a SMG :angry:



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When I first saw the Titan Defender using those Bolters I thought we could get one for Varric to use.



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The biggest issue with the lyrium-powered repeater crossbows I see, is the lyrium itself.

 

Only dwarves who live underground would be able to use them effectively for one very good reason. 

 

Anyone from the surface goes mad just from proximity to unrefined lyrium. Templars ingest it and slowly lose cognitive abilities. Mages who approach lyrium mutate, go nuts or possibly die if the lyrium has not been processed, which is also why tranquil are the only ones in the Circle's who work with lyrium. 

 

And dwarves on the surface slowly lose their stone-sense, something that is now proven to exist in the Descent, and I think the devs confirmed that surface dwarves have also lost their resistance to lyrium. 

 

As such, I do not think this to be a game-changer at all, unless in the Deep Roads. 


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Meh. I was annoyed by it when I first saw it, but then I thought about Pillars of Eternity, which has guns yet still manages to have a Tolkienesque vibe to it, so I'm not worried about Dragon Age losing its fantasy setting.

I always thought Pillars of Eternity had a more steampunk feel to it. 



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The next DLC will feature a machinegun weapon that attaches to the Inquisitor's hand and uses the anchor to power it and fire Fade bullets! BioWare will then make action figures and sell them in the BioWare store!

Nah, the Inquisitor will get a Qunari blunderbuss.

And lose a hand, and replace it with a lyrium-powered saw blade.

 

 

Groovy. B)



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Spoiler

 
Triple-barrel, rapid fire, Lyrium-powered. In addition: appears to be magazine-fed, with possible centrifugal system? Repeating crossbow comparisons and justifications need not apply.
 
So, what kind of consequences could this have upon the setting? Please tag any major spoilers for The Descent.

 

Huh so thats the gun thing I keep hearing about. Honestly if you just showed me the pic I wouldn't have thought that this was from Dragon Age at all. Can't say much more then since I can't actually get the DLC myself. But would have never of guessed this was from DA on the picture alone.

 

Also that looks like a harpoon gun



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The biggest issue with the lyrium-powered repeater crossbows I see, is the lyrium itself.

 

Only dwarves who live underground would be able to use them effectively for one very good reason. 

 

Anyone from the surface goes mad just from proximity to unrefined lyrium. Templars ingest it and slowly lose cognitive abilities. Mages who approach lyrium mutate, go nuts or possibly die if the lyrium has not been processed, which is also why tranquil are the only ones in the Circle's who work with lyrium. 

 

And dwarves on the surface slowly lose their stone-sense, something that is now proven to exist in the Descent, and I think the devs confirmed that surface dwarves have also lost their resistance to lyrium. 

 

As such, I do not think this to be a game-changer at all, unless in the Deep Roads. 

 

That depends on what purpose the Lyrium serves within the device, and if it's an effect that can or cannot be replicated with enchantments or a secondary form of magic.

 

The mechanism itself is staggering, so I don't think it's the Lyrium doing the "heavy lifting", so to speak, beyond the way it appears to add power to the projectile.



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When I first saw the Titan Defender using those Bolters I thought we could get one for Varric to use.

I thought Varric would at least comment on it! <_<



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I admit when I saw those things I thought they were Hydra weapons.

The Tesaract is lyrium, and since it can open portals and the Chitauri are reptile people...

I haven't slept lately.

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That depends on what purpose the Lyrium serves within the device, and if it's an effect that can or cannot be replicated with enchantments or a secondary form of magic.

 

The mechanism itself is staggering, so I don't think it's the Lyrium doing the "heavy lifting", so to speak, beyond the way it appears to add power to the projectile.

 

Valta did say the bolts were laced with Lyrium...


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If I wanted guns I'd play Call of Duty.

I don't play RPG's with guns, I don't read fantasy books with guns and I don't watch fantasy with guns. No matter how great the story, mechanics or anything else is I just cant suspend my belief hard enough I spend the whole time thinking "Why bother with swords, bows and arrows or magic at all, you have guns. Just shot them and be done with it."

 So I guess in short if there is a gunner class in the new Dragon Age game (since I don't do DLC so it doesn't' affect me ) I wont be buying it and I'll move on to some other series.



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I don't play RPG's with guns, I don't read fantasy books with guns and I don't watch fantasy with guns. No matter how great the story, mechanics or anything else is I just cant suspend my belief hard enough I spend the whole time thinking "Why bother with swords, bows and arrows or magic at all, you have guns. Just shot them and be done with it."

 

There are actually a lot of reasons why early firearms are not flat-out better than melee weapons, bows, and magic, (as someone posted earlier, firearms existed alongside plate, swords, bucklers, pikes, and what-have-you for a long time), with some of those reasons actually being extremely pertinent to the world of Dragon Age in specific, which would be nurturing the lore.

 

 

So I guess in short if there is a gunner class in the new Dragon Age game (since I don't do DLC so it doesn't' affect me ) I wont be buying it and I'll move on to some other series.

 

There is a gunner class, but it has been specific to one character for the last two games (Varric).



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I'm not really surprised that advanced technology is being revealed in DA. Dwarves were always far advanced as it was, and to me the whole Titans and lost memories is like Atlantis. As DA progresses through the years, things will change and modernize as does life itself. Heck if you talk to the healer in Skyhold she tells you that magic is old and science is the new thing.



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I'm not really surprised that advanced technology is being revealed in DA. Dwarves were always far advanced as it was, and to me the whole Titans and lost memories is like Atlantis. As DA progresses through the years, things will change and modernize as does life itself. Heck if you talk to the healer in Skyhold she tells you that magic is old and science is the new thing.

Morrigan's whole goal in life is to preserve the old magic against that march of time and science.... guessing that this might be a huge deal in later DA games that the players will have to decide how they feel.  Which is awesome if true.



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Morrigan's whole goal in life is to preserve the old magic against that march of time and science.... guessing that this might be a huge deal in later DA games that the players will have to decide how they feel.  Which is awesome if true.

 

I could see that. The choice of preserving the old or welcoming in the new. I wonder if drinking from the Well will have consequences in future games? You can tell Solas you intend to restore what was, and if you let Morrigan drink, no doubt she'll stay true to her goal with the knowledge she now has in her possession.



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I'm not really surprised that advanced technology is being revealed in DA. Dwarves were always far advanced as it was, and to me the whole Titans and lost memories is like Atlantis. As DA progresses through the years, things will change and modernize as does life itself. Heck if you talk to the healer in Skyhold she tells you that magic is old and science is the new thing.

 

I mean, for Thedas, magic is a science. And I don't see how magic, conventional science, and technology isn't simply mutualistic. It's not like the world of Arcanum, where magic and technology literally break down in the presence of one another.


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I mean, for Thedas, magic is a science. And I don't see how magic, conventional science, and technology isn't simply mutualistic. It's not like the world of Arcanum, where magic and technology literally break down in the presence of one another.

 

It's as if Thedas is trying to progress into a new world where magic's original use will be lost and lyrium is used as a fuel instead of for spells. Hmmm maybe that whole "magic is to serve and not rule" thing was hinting at what lyrium is meant to be used for instead of how mages use it now? If Andraste really was a prophet, she might of had a glimpse into the future and tried to lead people on that path. Sort of like that Tevinter statue we find that tells of things to come.

 

The healer also mentions Orlais experimenting with headache cures and then tells you about drilling a hole in your skull lol 



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Sorry, typo lol
 

:P

 

No, no. I wasn't that. I'm just a little resentful about Qunari technology while my Inquisitor sits there, forever sans crossbow. I was pouting.  :blush:


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No, no. I wasn't that. I'm just a little resentful about Qunari technology while my Inquisitor sits there, forever sans crossbow. I was pouting.  :blush:

 

Don't be jealous, the Qunari are just better than you.  ;)


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