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[The Baconer]

As many of you know, the decision to restore the Seekers or let them die has a significant effect on the future of the Inquisition's Templars. If Cullen gives up the use of Lyrium, "many" follow his example and stop using the substance. If Cassandra is told to reform the Seekers, "many" of those many choose to join them.

 

Of course, we know that most of these men and women will not make the cut, as few are able to make it through the Seekers' rigorous training, and pass the Vigil in addition to that. So, much like the SEALs in our own world, there's badass, and then there's Seeker-material-badass, and the majority will end up washing out. They'll pack their bags, probably bummed but grateful for the experience, and then they'll head ho-But wait.

 

"Our bodies and minds must be elastic to undergo the Vigil, and most fail even then." [Cassandra]

 

The candidate must be pure. If the candidate proved worthy, the spirit would touch his mind... and he would be freed from Tranquility as well as made into a Seeker in truth. If he proved unworthy, Tranquility was permanent. [Codex]

 

What does this mean for the Templars of the Inquisition? How many, fresh off the path of cleaning up from Lyrium addiction, would now be consigned to a lifetime of Tranquility? Given Cassandra's reforms, recruits will most likely know the risks, unlike before, but at what cost? In a worldstate where the Circle no longer exists, such as Leliana's endings, what kind of opportunities would available to these Tranquil?

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Firstly, doesn't the fact that the Chantry now knows what the cure for Tranquility is, mean it wouldn't have to be permanent? I mean the cure still worked on that mage tranquil from Asunder, didn't it? He wasn't made into a Seeker. I don't think spirits of faith are the only spirits that can break tranquility. 

 

Secondly, Tranquil can still have a potentially useful set of skills. The need for enchanting wouldn't just disappear with the Circle system. Plus we saw one in Origins that was the proprietor of the Wonder of the Thedas. And in Inquisition many of them helped Minave with her research. Meredith used one as a secretary to help organize her agenda in DA 2.

[ComedicSociopathy]

The College of Enchanters and Inquisition could always make use of the Tranquil and their talent for ENCHANTMENT! 

[The Baconer]

Firstly, doesn't the fact that the Chantry now knows what the cure for Tranquility is, mean it wouldn't have to be permanent? I mean the cure still worked on that mage tranquil from Asunder, didn't it? He wasn't made into a Seeker. I don't think spirits of faith are the only spirits that can break tranquility.

 

Curing Tranquility as of now is problematic. It is definitely a procedure that is going to be explored, but it probably isn't a foolproof process around the ending of Inquisition. In addition, if Cassandra was not made Divine, I don't even think the new Seekers are part of the Chantry hierarchy.

[Boost32]

As many of you know, the decision to restore the Seekers or let them die has a significant effect on the future of the Inquisition's Templars. If Cullen gives up the use of Lyrium, "many" follow his example and stop using the substance. If Cassandra is told to reform the Seekers, "many" of those many choose to join them.

Of course, we know that most of these men and women will not make the cut, as few are able to make it through the Seekers' rigorous training, and pass the Vigil in addition to that. So, much like the SEALs in our own world, there's badass, and then there's Seeker-material-badass, and the majority will end up washing out. They'll pack their bags, probably bummed but grateful for the experience, and then they'll head ho-But wait.

"Our bodies and minds must be elastic to undergo the Vigil, and most fail even then." [Cassandra]

The candidate must be pure. If the candidate proved worthy, the spirit would touch his mind... and he would be freed from Tranquility as well as made into a Seeker in truth. If he proved unworthy, Tranquility was permanent. [Codex]

What does this mean for the Templars of the Inquisition? How many, fresh off the path of cleaning up from Lyrium addiction, would now be consigned to a lifetime of Tranquility? Given Cassandra's reforms, recruits will most likely know the risks, unlike before, but at what cost? In a worldstate where the Circle no longer exists, such as Leliana's endings, what kind of opportunities would available to these Tranquil?

They all are going to pass, its simple. Bioware doesnt seem to remember their own lore anymore.
Do you remember the templar in the Howe's dungeon in DAO? He was suffering from lyrium withdrawl and because of that he become mad.
Now in the Inquisition, Cullen shows us that the withdrawl have been scaled down for a few nightmares and headache, but you still fit for duty! No more madness or risk of death for you!
All those retcons just for him to become romanceable, so ofc they are going to retcon the Seekers and all those templars are going to pass.

[Iakus]

They all are going to pass, its simple. Bioware doesnt seem to remember their own lore anymore.
Do you remember the templar in the Howe's dungeon in DAO? He was suffering from lyrium withdrawl and because of that he become mad.
Now in the Inquisition, Cullen shows us that the withdrawl have been scaled down for a few nightmares and headache, but you still fit for duty! No more madness or risk of death for you!
All those retcons just for him to become romanceable, so ofc they are going to retcon the Seekers and all those templars are going to pass.

That templar had been one a lot longer than Cullen.  And had likely been strung out on it a lot longer as well.  

 

Not to mention said prisoner had likely been horribly mistreated and likely tortured at the same time as going through withdrawl.

 

At any rate concerning Templars who fail to become Seekers.  It's certainly possible that they may simply remain tranquil.  OTOH, any wisp can cure Tranquility.  Maybe they will be restored, but still not allowed to join the Seekers.

 

Edit:  Hmm, for that matter, at what point does a prospective Seeker undergo tranquility?  One would think the branding would be...memorable...

[ComedicSociopathy]

They all are going to pass, its simple. Bioware doesnt seem to remember their own lore anymore.
Do you remember the templar in the Howe's dungeon in DAO? He was suffering from lyrium withdrawl and because of that he become mad.
Now in the Inquisition, Cullen shows us that the withdrawl have been scaled down for a few nightmares and headache, but you still fit for duty! No more madness or risk of death for you!
All those retcons just for him to become romanceable, so ofc they are going to retcon the Seekers and all those templars are going to pass.

 

It's entirely possible that some Templars simply have a different tolerance for lyrium withdrawal and undergo different symptoms. That one Templar in Howe's dungeon is not indicative of how every other Templar in Thedas will react to withdrawal. 

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Curing Tranquility as of now is problematic. It is definitely a procedure that is going to be explored, but it probably isn't a foolproof process around the ending of Inquisition. In addition, if Cassandra was not made Divine, I don't even think the new Seekers are part of the Chantry hierarchy.

 

Why wouldn't they be? Wouldn't Cassandra have rejoined the rebuilt Chantry even if she isn't Divine Victoria? I mean she doesn't seem to have any real problems with the other two candidate. 

[Boost32]

That templar had been one a lot longer than Cullen.  And had likely been strung out on it a lot longer as well.  
 
Not to mention said prisoner had likely been horribly mistreated and likely tortured at the same time as going through withdrawl.
 
At any rate concerning Templars who fail to become Seekers.  It's certainly possible that they may simply remain tranquil.  OTOH, any wisp can cure Tranquility.  Maybe they will be restored, but still not allowed to join the Seekers.
 
Edit:  Hmm, for that matter, at what point does a prospective Seeker undergo tranquility?  One would think the branding would be...memorable...

Cullen withdrawl was longer, it take years from the start of DAI to the ending.

It's entirely possible that some Templars simply have a different tolerance for lyrium withdrawal and undergo different symptoms. That one Templar in Howe's dungeon is not indicative of how every other Templar in Thedas will react to withdrawal.

Except it was neve stated anywhere, it was always stated that going through the withdrawl was dangerous.
http://dragonage.wik...a_Lyrium_Addict

Yet Cullen is fine and ready for duty.

[The Baconer]

Why wouldn't they be? Wouldn't Cassandra have rejoined the rebuilt Chantry even if she isn't Divine Victoria? I mean she doesn't seem to have any real problems with the other two candidate. 

 

Their new mission statement(s) doesn't indicate any focus on internal affairs or management like before.