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[Hrulj]

You're working with a pretty important ally and you're prepared to fire on them like that opportunistically - which you know might arrive since the whole mission is to get inside the dreadnought and do something to disable it. That's the sort of thing that rapidly turns allies into enemies unless it's for immediate tactical, not strategic reasons (and even then it's asking for trouble). At the very least Han Gerel should've said that he will given the chance before the mission, and found out the status of the team on board (no answer would've been a good enough excuse).

 

When it comes to who killed who the quarians are not a completely unified group. Saying "they deserve it" and by implication every individual is pretty abhorrent. WIth the geth though there's no such thing as an individual, which implies no such thing as an innocent if they've done anything wrong. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's wrong to side with the geth when they're not being the aggressors, just that "the quarians deserve it" seems to imply "couldn't care less about the individuals" rather than "lesser evil choice overall."

No one knew you will disable the shields and weapons on the dreadnought. You went there, and eveyone expected you to simply shut down the signal. You might have told the Quarians to attack or retreat, but in either case no one expected you to make dreadnought vulnerable. Imagine a team of US soldiers sent to Berlin to save a downed paratrooper, but get a chance to kill hitler. Do you think they would take the chance?

[Reidzer-1314]

I will be honest, each time I have played through the game I have not had the urge to support the Geth over the Quarians, I always go for peace between the two. 

[Reorte]

No one knew you will disable the shields and weapons on the dreadnought. You went there, and eveyone expected you to simply shut down the signal. You might have told the Quarians to attack or retreat, but in either case no one expected you to make dreadnought vulnerable. Imagine a team of US soldiers sent to Berlin to save a downed paratrooper, but get a chance to kill hitler. Do you think they would take the chance?

If you're going to shut down the signal I imagine that there's a fair chance of either having to shut down quite a bit else to achieve that, or having the opportunity to do so. Plus the signal was the problem anyway.

 

The "Kill Hitler" example isn't comparable because there are no downsides. If it would somehow take out Churchill and Roosevelt too though?

[Hrulj]

If you're going to shut down the signal I imagine that there's a fair chance of either having to shut down quite a bit else to achieve that, or having the opportunity to do so. Plus the signal was the problem anyway.

 

The "Kill Hitler" example isn't comparable because there are no downsides. If it would somehow take out Churchill and Roosevelt too though?

You are not a leader of a country, whereas the Dreadnought is the leader of all Geth in space and has killed a fair number of Quarians with potential to kill a lot more, if we try to translate that into human terms. No one mentioned having to shut down anything else. If you just killed the legion there, the signal would stop and the only thing shut down would be the doors due to the fire emergency.

[Oni Changas]

I'd guess a lot of people view the geth as sentient beings, and blame the quarians for starting the war against the geth in the first place. The quarians tried to destroy them because of their newfound sentience and the phrase "does this unit have a soul?" freaked them out a lot. The geth drove the quarians away from Rannoch during the Morning War, but did give them the opportunity to leave (as they thought annihilating their creators wouldn't be a good decision). The geth still regarded co-existance with their creators as a future possibility.

However, during the events of ME3, the quarians again opted for war against the geth, which led to the geth seeking help from the reapers out of necessity. They are acting in self-defence, while the quarians are clearly on the offensive.

 

Also, I guess some people have lost Tali in ME2 which makes choosing the geth a little less hard as well.

 

 

Personally, I see both sides as valid choices, but I always go for peace between the two unless I'm rp'ing a certain way or going for a failshep playthrough.

Quarians tried to disable them because of the Council's laws on AI.

[Vol_Tang_Clan]

I always destroy the geth. They are an industrial accident, and Shepard gets to oversee the recall. I just wish Xen got so hot and bothered over it that she took Tali's place and became his new wifey.

[Eleonora]

Quarians tried to disable them because of the Council's laws on AI.

Indeed, the quarians were freaked out by the geth's "awareness of a soul" and sentience because it made them realise the geth had evolved into AIs, which was against Council law. My first post was somewhat simplified but you get the gist of it.

[The Antagonist]

bleeding heart liberals think the Geth are people too. 

[Sylvius the Mad]

bleeding heart liberals think the Geth are people too.

Sapience is sapience.