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[kajtarp]

Sure, let's forget about the Reegar and the Venom.

 

same sentence applies  

[GruntKitterhand]

acolyte is the most OP and broken weapon in the game. get some self respect and use something else

 

You sound like Sinful Force. Nobody wants that.    

 

Self-respect is overrated among those with gaming addictions, but as for using something else, there might be no one on this forum who could outdo me in terms of the variety of guns they use consistently.  I only use the Acolyte on the Justicar, because, as I said, it's a thing of beauty and a match made in heaven.

[TheNightSlasher]

acolyte is the most OP and broken weapon in the game. get some self respect and use something else

No.

[kajtarp]

You sound like Sinful Force. Nobody wants that.    

 

Self-respect is overrated among those with gaming addictions, but as for using something else, there might be no one on this forum who could outdo me in terms of the variety of guns they use consistently.  I only use the Acolyte on the Justicar, because, as I said, it's a thing of beauty and a match made in heaven.

 

i don't find anything nice in it all. it has a ridiculous multiplier against shields and barriers. compared to how much dmg it deals, the impact doesn't even have to hit your enemy, it's enough if you hit somewhere close. what is a miss with a normal gun is a hit with acolyte. sorry if i call it a noob gun. It's ok if people use it in their early hours of me3. but after? it removes any kind of challange and excitement out of the game, because lets be honest, killing unprotected enemies at any difficulty level doesn't represent any challange.  i have the same opinion about some other weapons/character kits aswell. 

[TMB903]

You sound like Sinful Force. Nobody wants that.    
 
Self-respect is overrated among those with gaming addictions, but as for using something else, there might be no one on this forum who could outdo me in terms of the variety of guns they use consistently.  I only use the Acolyte on the Justicar, because, as I said, it's a thing of beauty and a match made in heaven.

Tis true. I don't think I've ever seen you use anything twice in all of our matches.

[Cryos_Feron]

i don't find anything nice in it all. it has a ridiculous multiplier against shields and barriers. compared to how much dmg it deals, the impact doesn't even have to hit your enemy, it's enough if you hit somewhere close. what is a miss with a normal gun is a hit with acolyte. sorry if i call it a noob gun. It's ok if people use it in their early hours of me3. but after? it removes any kind of challange and excitement out of the game, because lets be honest, killing unprotected enemies at any difficulty level doesn't represent any challange. i have the same opinion about some other weapons/character kits aswell.

where were you 1 month ago?

that was the glorious time of 97 Acolyte threads being created simultaneously.

I share your opinion, btw.

[Miniditka77]

maybe you are getting me wrong:

I actually want pull to be effective on gold/plat and would be glad to hear strategies to make it viable.

(other than with the Acolyte)

so, how do you do it?

btw, I only said Platinum because there the shields and barriers are even bigger and cannot be removed just like that.

.... without the beloved Acolyte

 

Platinum..... IDK, Pull has limited effectiveness on Platinum because of all the armor, but it can still be useful.

 

On Gold though - You can pull most enemies.  Phasic Ammo is your friend.  Talon with Phasic Ammo will strip shields just as well as the Acolyte, if you can aim.  The only "downside" is that if you are relatively close and your aim is good enough, you might actually OSK them and not give yourself a chance to use Pull at all.  Any moderate-high damage per shot weapon will work just as well (stay away from rapid-fire weapons for Pull-based strategies).  The Disciple or Eviscerator with Phasic Ammo actually work quite well for this too.  So do the Paladin/Carnifex.  You have to make sure your Reave is specced for max armor damage though, because you aren't going to be doing a ton of armor damage with your weapon on some of these setups.

[PatrickBateman]

Go ahead and do a platinum solo with only the Acolyte on a non-flamer kit, then you can tell me how OP, broken and cheesy the Acolyte is.

[Learn To Love Yourself]

Go ahead and do a platinum solo with only the Acolyte on a non-flamer kit, then you can tell me how OP, broken and cheesy the Acolyte is.

How about Fury & Cryo Soldier?

[Cryos_Feron]

Go ahead and do a platinum solo with only the Acolyte on a non-flamer kit, then you can tell me how OP, broken and cheesy the Acolyte is.

with a BE-focused kit this won't be much of a problem for many people here.

However, the Acolyte deserves the title "OP" for the niche it dominates unprecedentedly.
without exaggerating I'd estimate it does about twice as much damage against shields/barriers as it would be reasonable. also, please consider that it isn't an UR, super light, staggers and does aoe damage.

sorry, I realize that this topic really gets old. I apologize

[PatrickBateman]

It's no problem, it's a game discussion after all

Cryo Soldier isn't that effective for Platinum I believe, could be done with a Fury but that's difficult as you need to fight very Close to the enemy all the time - and we shouldn't forget all the BS power blocking going on, would take forever to kill a possessed preatorian as one example - powerful weapons beats Powers which is a bit of a shame.

[xelander]

Platinum..... IDK, Pull has limited effectiveness on Platinum because of all the armor, but it can still be useful.

 

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Not really, on Plat armored units force you to make mistakes / move where you don't want to, but mooks are the ones that kill you. So having a quick and reliable stagger is a huge benefit from my point of view.

[TMB903]

with a BE-focused kit this won't be much of a problem for many people here.
However, the Acolyte deserves the title "OP" for the niche it dominates unprecedentedly.
without exaggerating I'd estimate it does about twice as much damage against shields/barriers as it would be reasonable. also, please consider that it isn't an UR, super light, staggers and does aoe damage.
sorry, I realize that this topic really gets old. I apologize

Hmm...so if it was an Ultra Rare would that make it better for you?

[MaxCrushmore]

^IMO Acolyte and Reegar should both have been UR's. They could have been swapped with 2 of the more currently underwhelming URs

[Miniditka77]

Not really, on Plat armored units force you to make mistakes / move where you don't want to, but mooks are the ones that kill you. So having a quick and reliable stagger is a huge benefit from my point of view.

 

I never said Pull was garbage on Platinum - I said it's useful, but the utility is limited because there are fewer mooks.  Pull is good in some situations on Platinum.  

 

The difference is that on Gold, you can focus entire offensive builds around using Pull (and do pretty well at it too).  Pull/Reave Justicar is EZ-mode for Cerberus and Geth on Gold.

[The NightMan Cometh]

^^ I do agree the Acolyte Justicar vs Cerberus does turn them into a joke..I always get a stupid high score against them when using that combo...not so much vs geth..only 3 of their units can be pull/reave'd....where as Cerberus has 6

[Loufi]

How about Fury & Cryo Soldier?

Besides Flamer kits, Acolyte-only plat solos are OK with most adepts, notably the Justiciar, as Reave destroys armor (and, if fighting Collectors, ignores Praetorians' bubble). Basically any character with powers highly effective VS the yellow bar can solo plat without too much trouble with the Acolyte only.   

[Salarian Master Race]

haha.

sometimes I wonder if the Claymore Fetishists would still love the gun if it was light like a feather, pinpoint accurate, and wouldn't have to be reload canceled.

 

Aha, like the Valiant!  Another fine weapon I wouldn't mind dual wielding.

 

Though I do still reload cancel it.

 

I think I need to try Claymore Justicar later today.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Did the thread turn into a debate over whether the Acolyte is OP yet?

[Cryos_Feron]

Hmm...so if it was an Ultra Rare would that make it better for you?

 

It would make it a little better, yes.

 

Because things should come at a price.

If people had to go to great lenghts to get to enjoy the full benefits of this gun, .....

 

 

wait - I changed my mind,    because that way even more people would realize and appreciate how good it is ;-)

 

 

It took me a couple of hundred hours to realize it -

my reason for realizing this late was that the Acolyte gets OP in combination with other factors

(kits, powers, weapons, but especially:  if you run with a charged Acolyte)

[Loufi]

Did the thread turn into a debate over whether the Acolyte is OP yet?

Yep, as every thread these days ! 

[Miniditka77]

^^ I do agree the Acolyte Justicar vs Cerberus does turn them into a joke..I always get a stupid high score against them when using that combo...not so much vs geth..only 3 of their units can be pull/reave'd....where as Cerberus has 6

 

Re:  Geth - that's true, but Geth also have 2 other units that have no range capability and can be easily taken out by Reave spam and Acolyte shots before they ever get into range.  And Geth are very easy to "lead" through a Warp Bubble you have planted, setting up even more damage.  Geth Primes are the only Geth unit that is remotely a challenge for an Acolyte Justicar.

[PatrickBateman]

That is totally true Loufi, but I believe that doing a platinum solo with an adept only using the Acolyte is something only the top players can pull off (I'm way to scrubby for it myself), not just anyone will go in and do their first solo with that set-up

[publius1000]

Yep, as every thread these days ! 

oh does this happen regularly? i was wondering wtf was going on in here...

[The NightMan Cometh]

I was waiting for this thread to turn into a Wraith vs Claymore debate.