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Cerberus "Ideology" In Mass Effect: Andromeda?


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ExoGeniVI

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Illusive Man was right- 

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"Cerberus isn't just an organisation or the people behind it. Cerberus is an idea; that idea is not so easily destroyed".

Who here would like to have a "Cerberus Ideology" element in Mass Effect: Andromeda? I LOVED Mass Effect 2 when I worked for the Illusive man.


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I would like to see it. Their ideology, but not the faction itself. Unless they're like sleeper operatives who infiltrated the program or whatever. Maybe as side missions? I don't want them to be involved with my main plot, not heavily anyway.


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no thank you, I think most of us got enough Cerberus crammed down our throats to last a century. we'll be content without ANY Cerberus at all. I liked them just fine in ME1 when they were just another obscure faction blending into the background.



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Cerebus ideology in ME:A: we're all dead.

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Nah, rather not join up with the Sci-fi version of the KKK. Cerberus is the reason I was denied Harbinger. Thus I want Cerberus dead, buried and gone.


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Given that we're in Andromeda and annoying the locals with our manifest destiny expansionism, seems we're a little Cerberus in that regard?


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I wholeheartedly support a Cerberus like perspective. I want my character to have a cavalier and colonial approach to other races. Humanity first.


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Illusive Man was right- 

Jack_harper.jpg

 

"Cerberus isn't just an organisation or the people behind it. Cerberus is an idea; that idea is not so easily destroyed".

Who here would like to have a "Cerberus Ideology" element in Mass Effect: Andromeda? I LOVED Mass Effect 2 when I worked for the Illusive man.

 

 

i would like that. tbh, i agree on what they (Cerberus) wanted to achieve, i just did NOT approve of the WAY they did things.. i hope that made sense.

 

regarding cerberus being in ME:A i dont think so. remember that we are going to a NEW galaxy, i dont think cerberus was that much of an organization to have lasted that long. i mean, the illusive man is dead, we destroyed their base.. how can they come back? and most importantly who will lead them like the illusive man did? i dont know.. it seems far fetched to me. plus since we are going to a NEW galaxy, there is SO MUCH to explore there.. so much new things to look up for, i dont have hope for cerberus to be present. BUT i dont mind them mentioning them, even the old trilogy.. it sure will make us long fans happy! but i highly doubt we will deal with cerberus again. :)



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Nah, rather not join up with the Sci-fi version of the KKK. Cerberus is the reason I was denied Harbinger. Thus I want Cerberus dead, buried and gone.


I thought Harbinger knocked himself out of the series with all the lame taunting.
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no thank you, I think most of us got enough Cerberus crammed down our throats to last a century. we'll be content without ANY Cerberus at all. I liked them just fine in ME1 when they were just another obscure faction blending into the background.

 

I think Cerberus was best portrayed in ME1, tbh.  In ME2, they seemed too helpful and more than a bit incompetent (Overlord comes to mind).  In ME3, they were just completely moronic and at least 90% of them were already indoctrinated.  Granted, they had their moments of stupidity in ME1 too, but they only seemed to be more numerous as the trilogy progressed.

 

I would be interested in seeing someone who believed in Cerberus' core ideals, either as a squaddie or as the big bad (kind of hoping it'd be the former, though).  Possibly someone similar to Brooks in the Citadel DLC, obviously minus the clone.


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I think Cerberus was best portrayed in ME1, tbh.  In ME2, they seemed too helpful and more than a bit incompetent (Overlord comes to mind).  In ME3, they were just completely moronic and at least 90% of them were already indoctrinated.  Granted, they had their moments of stupidity in ME1 too, but they only seemed to be more numerous as the trilogy progressed.

 

I would be interested in seeing someone who believed in Cerberus' core ideals, either as a squaddie or as the big bad (kind of hoping it'd be the former, though).  Possibly someone similar to Brooks in the Citadel DLC, obviously minus the clone.

 

Yeah, as the trilogy went on Cerberus only seemed to get more like Apeture Science from Portal.

 

Actually, given that both games involve an AI trying to kill us with turrets in the first game, only to team up with us in the second, Cerberus really is the Mass Effect universe's version of Apeture, complete with a boss who starts to go progressively more insane.


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Yeah, as the trilogy went on Cerberus only seemed to get more like Apeture Science from Portal.

 

Actually, given that both games involve an AI trying to kill us with turrets in the first game, only to team up with us in the second, Cerberus really is the Mass Effect universe's version of Apeture, complete with a boss who starts to go progressively more insane.

I think the issue is that Cerberus became progressively more cartoonish as the series went by and you were expected to take them MORE seriously as they did things like have a man that shoots beams out of his hands and fights with a sword. 


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I wholeheartedly support a Cerberus like perspective. I want my character to have a cavalier and colonial approach to other races. Humanity first.


The idea of Cerberus will be alive in my character's motivations and actions. Strength for Cerberus is strength for every human. Cerberus is humanity.


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My hate for Cerberus did not really begin until I read about their history. When I seen they assassinated the pope, I immediately wanted to the destroy them. In Mass Effect 1, I do not give them any data; in Mass Effect 2, I go against them in almost every way; in Mass Effect 3, I send the Alliance fleet to destroy them without a second thought. I know it is just a game, but sometimes I like to take Mass Effect seriously.

Admiral Hackett: Commander are you alright?

Me: Just take Cerberus down... please.

Admiral Hackett: Understood. All ships fire at will. All ships you are free to fire!

(Explosions in the background)

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It isn't Cerberus ideology... They aren't batman. It is hate, and hate isn't unique to specific hate groups. Hate will forever thrive or at least linger. Can't see it dying as long as Bioware needs themes for their new game. :)

 

Andromeda is a new setting so they may add Cerberus to the game to calm those who are scared of change.



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As much as I am a cerberus fan boy, I want ME:A to be a good story and I do prefer to be better than the Shepard Trilogy with or without Cerberus. Side Note: Kai Leng and the Phantoms are the least silly thing with ME:3 Cerberus.



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Cerberus ideology is fascism, possibly even nazism. It's fine to want to critically explore those thought processes in a game however many times it's already been done before. But I find it disconcerting that there are people on here that find cerberus appealing and idealizing them.
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To have Cerberus in MEA or organizations connected to it is something I'm strongly opposed to. However if instead they have good old human imperialism then I might consider it. Not against the idea of an Hernan Cortez of Andromeda kind of guy as a replacement to TIM.
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Definitely think there should be a prominent character that indirectly subscribes to Cerberus  ideals. Not a villain, but a part of the crew. 

 

 

 

 

Hell, maybe there'll be a handful of Shepardites who worship The Shepherd for shepherding us through a billion year cycle of oppression.


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Cerberus ideology is fascism, possibly even nazism. It's fine to want to critically explore those thought processes in a game however many times it's already been done before. But I find it disconcerting that there are people on here that find cerberus appealing and idealizing them.

 

I blame the Eugenics movement



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Actually I don't want to see this Humans Are Special tropes in Andromeda. You see, 'nationalism' can be quite relative, there can be tension between different villages/cities/states but all this is gone when they gather together in another country, just like humanity will be united against aliens. But in Andromeda it gets bigger scale. So I'd rather see Andromedians/MWers instead.



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The idealogy, sure, I could totally see.  There are always morons that think their racial group is superior...an attitude that deserves a bullet in the face in response.



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Mass Effect as a whole is built around the belief in vaguely defined human superiority, so it's guaranteed one way or another.

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Mass Effect as a whole is built around the belief in vaguely defined human superiority, so it's guaranteed one way or another.

I wouldn't call Harbinger's quotes about humans and other races vague. Writer who did his dialogs just slaps Human Are Special all over your face, in case you had doubts after ME1.



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It isn't Cerberus ideology... They aren't batman. It is hate, and hate isn't unique to specific hate groups. Hate will forever thrive or at least linger. Can't see it dying as long as Bioware needs themes for their new game. :)

 

Andromeda is a new setting so they may add Cerberus to the game to calm those who are scared of change.

 

That's not what Cerberus is about at all. I don't get why so many people think that Cerberus is all about hatred and fear of change. Cerberus does not stand for those.

 

If you say that they do, you are incorrect.


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