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[N7_Salohcin]

I'm one of those boring people who dislikes speculating without information and facts, but I'll try...

 

If the reason for leaving the Milky Way was a kind of "Noah's Ark" mission from the Reapers then I could easily see most of the major Citadel races making a reappearance. That would be the asari, salarians, turians and, of course, the humans. It'd probably include the krogan too, and maybe the quarians. 

 

I'm fond of the Noah's Ark theory because it'd be a way to start fresh, completely fresh, but also have a strong connection to the original trilogy that doesn't change depending on the choices you made. Whether or not the theory has any kind of merit, I have to believe that the races native to the MWG left before the end of the Reaper war. I'm having trouble imagining ways the writers could address all the different endings without being totally cheap about it. I personally didn't kill Leliana in DAO, but I can understand the frustration those who did had when she popped up again in DA2 and DAI with very little explanation. Let's not do something like that again.

 

I'm excited too! I can't wait to see what they have planned. And as much as I love the old races, I'm looking forward to meeting the new ones. (As long as it's with blue ladies by my side, of course...) 

 

 

I totally think the ark theory makes sense, and am fond of it myself! I agree with you about the connection to the trilogy - it gives the series that clean slate to start off fresh and provides a new sense of adventure without feeling like it comes out of nowhere.

 

Its just the underlying cause of it that is a mystery... being before or after the reaper war. I guess we will just have to see what Bioware comes up with on that one

 

to be honest, the ONLY 2 species that i'm 100% that they will come back are : 

 

1- krogans. we saw a female in the teaser trailer and other videos. but ar ethey the same krogans we know? i dont know. but they are back

 

2- asari. because they live longest out of all the species, plus they are WILDLY popular, and i dont think a mas effect game should be without them.

 

 

plus i do believe that we will meet more new species than we would expect.

 

Definitely! They appeared to be a female wearing armor with a helmet in the trailer near the krogan too - was it a human female... or asari?   

I wonder if the renegade option for the protagonist would be to rally the races from the milky way to aggressively discover and utilize remnant technology to subdue and destroy the native species from Andromeda - while the paragon option would be to help foster a more diplomatic, intergalactic government similar to the council and government from the Citadel...

[Mercyva]

I totally think the ark theory makes sense, and am fond of it myself! I agree with you about the connection to the trilogy - it gives the series that clean slate to start off fresh and provides a new sense of adventure without feeling like it comes out of nowhere.

 

Its just the underlying cause of it that is a mystery... being before or after the reaper war. I guess we will just have to see what Bioware comes up with on that one

 

 

Definitely! They appeared to be a female wearing armor with a helmet in the trailer near the krogan too - was it a human female... or asari?   

I wonder if the renegade option for the protagonist would be to rally the races from the milky way to aggressively discover and utilize remnant technology to subdue and destroy the native species from Andromeda - while the paragon option would be to help foster a more diplomatic, intergalactic government similar to the council and government from the Citadel...

 

 

may i ask what is exactly the ''Ark Theory?'' i;ve seen this being thrown around A LOT. 

 

 tbh, i really want the trilogy to be mentioned in ME:A based on our choices. </3 but i really doubt that. mainly because i dont want to be disappointed if it isnt.

[WinterRaven]

may i ask what is exactly the ''Ark Theory?'' i;ve seen this being thrown around A LOT. 

 

 tbh, i really want the trilogy to be mentioned in ME:A based on our choices. </3 but i really doubt that. mainly because i dont want to be disappointed if it isnt.

 

 

The Ark theory is that during the end of the reaper war while the Crucible was being a made. A "back up" plan was built for a ship capable of travelling to another galaxy (through either found tech or a wormhole or something) and all the races sending a contingent of their species with them. The popular theory being that it was launched during the 3rd game right as Shepard gets hit by the beam and Hackett loses contact. The assumption then is that the war was lost. 

[Aesa]

may i ask what is exactly the ''Ark Theory?'' i;ve seen this being thrown around A LOT. 

 

 tbh, i really want the trilogy to be mentioned in ME:A based on our choices. </3 but i really doubt that. mainly because i dont want to be disappointed if it isnt.

 

The Noah's Ark theory is that a ship was built by natives of the MW galaxy with the purpose of shepherding away certain races in order to preserve their society and culture. The reason for why is usually that of a "fail safe" during the Reaper war, but some people have tried working the dropped dark matter plot into it too (Haestrom).

 

As much as I'd like some of our choices to have an effect in MEA, I don't think that will happen either. So many of them have fundamentally different consequences that I feel in order to incorporate all the results Bioware would have to add A LOT of alternative content or write some cheap way out of it. I'm sure part of the reason for moving to Andromeda is to avoid this. It's too bad too, seeing things like the effect of a genophage cure on the krogan would be very interesting.

[Killroy]

The Ark theory is that during the end of the reaper war while the Crucible was being a made. A "back up" plan was built for a ship capable of travelling to another galaxy (through either found tech or a wormhole or something) and all the races sending a contingent of their species with them. The popular theory being that it was launched during the 3rd game right as Shepard gets hit by the beam and Hackett loses contact. The assumption then is that the war was lost.

...that's not "the popular" version of Ark Theory. I've never even seen that before. I've seen tons of people say the ark will probably launch fairly early in the events of ME3 so as to avoid any major choices(genophage, Geth/Quarians) but never that it launches just moments after Shepard get blasted, like the ark-goers were watching a Shepard movie playing out.

[Indigenous]

i really like javik, and i liked the protheans as a species and most importantly as a culture. they were in a different time, their prespective is different. but i'm concerned as how are they going to come back? javik is the only living prothean we know. i dont know how bioware will make sense of this if they decide to bring them back...

 

 

plus regarding the geth, my only problem with that is that their existant is pending. you can kill either of them in ME3, that would be difficult to explain, unless they do like a ''dragon age keep'' kind of thing were you import your save, BUT if they did not, i dont it will make sense because some of us wiped out the geth completely. also the quarians the same thing.

 

 

I would make the claim (and I think I have already said this in another thread) in Mass Effect we found stores of genetic info (dead protheans in cryo tubes) in addition to prothean discoveries we also discovered in Mass Effect 2 that human science, specifically, had advance far enough to return life to dead people (Shepard). If the science is there and the material is available I am sure there must be someway to, maybe not return life to their shells but to create new life from their tissue.

 

OR, quite simply, abracadabra we found more Protheans that survived the deep freeze. What I mean by this is that if Bioware wanted to put some Protheans in Andromeda they are probably already there.

 

It is illogical to assume one action would kill all the geth or qunari. When Bioware allows you to make these choices they leave the door wide open to make changes or to clarify what you actually chose. I can easily see them writing in independent factions of geth and qunari who never took part in the hostilities between the two sides.

[Mercyva]

The Ark theory is that during the end of the reaper war while the Crucible was being a made. A "back up" plan was built for a ship capable of travelling to another galaxy (through either found tech or a wormhole or something) and all the races sending a contingent of their species with them. The popular theory being that it was launched during the 3rd game right as Shepard gets hit by the beam and Hackett loses contact. The assumption then is that the war was lost. 

 

Thats interesting... its weird tho that they never mentioned this to shepard. pretty pissed off lol , even when shepard was sacrificing herself for them all, they still did things behind her back xD

[Mercyva]

 

The Noah's Ark theory is that a ship was built by natives of the MW galaxy with the purpose of shepherding away certain races in order to preserve their society and culture. The reason for why is usually that of a "fail safe" during the Reaper war, but some people have tried working the dropped dark matter plot into it too (Haestrom).

 

As much as I'd like some of our choices to have an effect in MEA, I don't think that will happen either. So many of them have fundamentally different consequences that I feel in order to incorporate all the results Bioware would have to add A LOT of alternative content or write some cheap way out of it. I'm sure part of the reason for moving to Andromeda is to avoid this. It's too bad too, seeing things like the effect of a genophage cure on the krogan would be very interesting.

 

 

 

even bioware trying to get away from the endings xD, that would be cool. but WHY do they keep this out for shepard? the stupid council dont even include him on such matters. :/

[Killroy]

even bioware trying to get away from the endings xD, that would be cool. but WHY do they keep this out for shepard? the stupid council dont even include him on such matters. :/

We don't even know if the Council is involved in this ARKCON project. It could be a private organization behind it. It could be one person with nearly infinite resources organizing the Ark, recruiting some of the greatest minds and making clones from prime specimens of each Milky Way race to populate the Ark.

[Degrees1991]

i would like too... but some species, like the hanar/volus, i mean... i dont think they will be much of importance in andromeda. i'd rather have the one's we love, and maybe create new ones?

I love the Hanar only Krogans are closer to my heart.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Thats interesting... its weird tho that they never mentioned this to shepard. pretty pissed off lol , even when shepard was sacrificing herself for them all, they still did things behind her back xD

Well, the main reason is the fact that during the production of Mass Effect 3 it was planned for it to be the final Mass Effect game. So they can't mention what wasn't planned.

[SpaceLobster]

It may not seem logical for either the drell or the quarians to be included, because there are just so few of them. That being said, I think quarians will return, in addition to the Council races and probably the krogan as well. That is mostly because quarians appear to be quite popular (not as popular as the geth, though), and it could be easily explained, it is possible that not every quarian on Pilgrimage returned to the Migrant Fleet, or that some retreated through the Mass Relay before being completely  wiped out. Or ya know, peace or even more broken machines were achieved.

[Degrees1991]

It may not seem logical for either the drell or the quarians to be included, because there are just so few of them. That being said, I think quarians will return, in addition to the Council races and probably the krogan as well. That is mostly because quarians appear to be quite popular (not as popular as the geth, though), and it could be easily explained, it is possible that not every quarian on Pilgrimage returned to the Migrant Fleet, or that some retreated through the Mass Relay before being completely wiped out. Or ya know, peace or even more broken machines were achieved.

Probably Krogans, where have you been? Outside the obvious Humans they're the only confirmed returning race.

[SpaceLobster]

Probably Krogans, where have you been? Outside the obvious Humans they're the only confirmed returning race.

We assume it is a krogan. It could very well be a derp, or a khet. 

[Killroy]

We assume it is a krogan. It could very well be a derp, or a khet.

We saw a Krogan in the E3 video in 2014, dude. And why would the Khet look exactly like Krogans?

[Degrees1991]

We assume it is a krogan. It could very well be a derp, or a khet.

Bioware has already confirmed it as a Krogan last year in the E3 trailer. Also mentioned Krogans in their development tweets.

[SpaceLobster]

Bioware has already confirmed it as a Krogan last year in the E3 trailer.

 

Last I checked, krogan don't have a horn on their heads.

 

Also mentioned Krogans in their development tweets.

I don't have twitter.

 

And why would the Khet look exactly like Krogans?

Why do quarians look like foto-shopped humans?

[Chardonney]

I for one truly hope to see the Drell again, even if it's just one as a squad member. Such an awesome race.

[Helios969]

I see no reason for any race to be left behind.  Depending on the setup and how large our hub ship is they wouldn't necessarily need to show or provide interactions with every race.  No need to close the door entirely for future DLC's and subsequent games.  Best to keep all options on the table.

[Degrees1991]

Last I checked, krogan don't have a horn on their heads.


I don't have twitter.

Why do quarians look like foto-shopped humans?

That is what threw a lot of people off into Bioware confirmed it themselves. I don't have twitter either I use this forum to check out the tweets there is a thread.

[Lvl20DM]

My understanding is that the new engine has also allowed them to make individuals within the races look more unique. Most Krogan looked identical in the ME games, but now some might have horns and other interesting facial features. Ditto for the other races.

 

Though not confirmed, I suspect the Asari, Turian, and Salarian are definitely in. I'm hoping we get Quarians and Geth as well, even if only as minor characters. The Hanar, Volus and Elcor really should be in - not necessarily as squadmates, but as members of your crew (a Volus merchant would be very cool, I think).

[Former_Fiend]

The only species(that was actually featured in the series) that I am 100% alright with being left behind is the yahg. If I never see another yahg again, I'm fine with that.

 

Everyone else, I'd like to see in some capacity or another. Hanar and elcor can have background rolls, don't care. I'd like to see a volus as our ship's pilot, but that's just me. 

 

I'm very much in favor of the quarians and the geth getting on board. I like both races, as far as I'm aware they're both rather popular with the fandom, and they'd both be very useful for this type of mission.

[Larry-3]

Do I want asari to return... hmmm...

"Liara: I don't want any tentacled creature inside your mind... except me."

I do not mind if the asari returned. Just as long as they are not up-staging the other races.

[Sartoz]

 

I'm one of those boring people who dislikes speculating without information and facts, but I'll try...

 

If the reason for leaving the Milky Way was a kind of "Noah's Ark" mission from the Reapers then I could easily see most of the major Citadel races making a reappearance. That would be the asari, salarians, turians and, of course, the humans. It'd probably include the krogan too, and maybe the quarians. 

 

I'm fond of the Noah's Ark theory because it'd be a way to start fresh, completely fresh, but also have a strong connection to the original trilogy

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Why should Bio explain anything?  Granted, that the ARKON/Pathfinder patch adds a certain mystery. Nevertheless, their main objective is to create a new game with a new story and characters that players will instantly recognize as a Mass Effect game.

 

How?

Take familiar features of past ME games and incorporate them into ME:A is how I would do it. So, like you, I expect to see some familiar race(s) but mostly as NPCs. The Krogan appears to be an exception and part of a Strike Team.

[Aesa]

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Why should Bio explain anything?  Granted, that the ARKON/Pathfinder patch adds a certain mystery. Nevertheless, their main objective is to create a new game with a new story and characters that players will instantly recognize as a Mass Effect game.

 

How?

Take familiar features of past ME games and incorporate them into ME:A is how I would do it. So, like you, I expect to see some familiar race(s) but mostly as NPCs. The Krogan appears to be an exception and part of a Strike Team.

 

I'm unsure what you mean by your first sentence. Where did I say Bioware should explain something? I feel like you're disagreeing with me, but at the same time agreeing with me. I'm confused. 

 

If we assume there's going to be multiple races from the MWG reappearing in Andromeda, a galaxy ~2.5 million light years away, then yeah, I do believe that warrants some kind of explanation. However if we assume few of them will be returning, I think that provides BW with some more flexibility and freedom as to how we got there. My preference is only for a story that feels new and exciting, but not necessarily 100% detached from the original. The Ark theory is one way to do that, but like I said, I dislike speculating without facts so I'm not attached to it. I'm certain the writers will think of something interesting and, hopefully, sensible. Whether it ties into the original plot in anyway doesn't matter to me. 

 

Either way, we are in agreement. I prefer subtly to being punched in the face with things from the past trilogy. Familiar features is the best way to go--small things like upgraded omnitools, biotics, etc. It'd feel far less like ME without those than it would without the old races, but I won't be upset if some of the old races pop up too.