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Best class/subclass for Solo Nightmare playthrough?


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I think I will use Archer for obvious reasons, but I know it has been done solo with every class now.

 

What subclass though? I was thinking assassin but Tempest with thousand cuts is insane too. You take HBx 4 and x5 and thousand cuts does insane damage with fully upgraded Mighty Tonic Potion.

 

Not sure about Artificer though, never played one, never used Varric(don't like Bianca). 

 

Played assassin and know that is great with mark and HB. 

 

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Im really thinking Tempest, just because I think I would hidden blades x4, x5 and with thousand cuts. get focus belt and with fire flask you can spam full draw non stop. what you guys think?

 

Frost flask for emergency.



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For solo?

Mages with barrier and warrior with guard generation seem a good bet too.

My tempest seems too squishy :(

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For solo?

Mages with barrier and warrior with guard generation seem a good bet too.

My tempest seems too squishy :(

Well for Nightmare, range is nice as Archer because you just don't get hit. Stealth/evade and the Backflip shot that hits like 12 times which proc's like 100 hidden blades :)

 

Mage would be ok with KE, but thats kinda boring, just did a complete run through on nightmare with reaver and was boring by the end cause reavers dont really need to do anything but hit one button to destroy everything lol.



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Necromancer is best

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How many Full Draws can you really use during Flask of Fire duration?  It doesn't seem like it would be all that many.



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Necromancer is best


How so? Been contemplating necromancer over my knight enchanter for my new mage

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How many Full Draws can you really use during Flask of Fire duration?  It doesn't seem like it would be all that many.

Ya know what I was thinking fire flask removed the cast time, but just removes cooldown and cost right? was not thinking clearing when I said that lol. My bad, thanks for catching that.

 

 
 

Necromancer is best

 

Id like to know why you think this is best also, I never played necro, always thought it was very subpar. What do you like about it? Would'nt they suck vs dragons solo.



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I figured best solo would be assassin.



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How many Full Draws can you really use during Flask of Fire duration?  It doesn't seem like it would be all that many.

One, but you can do something else first and finish with Full Draw with no stamina cost. But, due to the passive that gives you a damage buff on first hit, it's not all that useful.



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You have to define what you mean by "best" or else all you get are a bunch of "my favorite class is ..." posts.

 

You can beat the game solo NM with any combination of anything, but if you are looking for easiest  to play for a mostly button-masher combat style, I'd vote Archer Assassin. Archer Tempest is my second choice, but due to Killer's Alchemy, there is a preparation routine to get maximum damage. It's not hard, but it breaks the flow of action for a button-masher style, so that's why I mention it.

 

Routine (typical -- there are variations depending on which elixir is "up")

 

1. Flask of Lightning

2. Regen potion

3. Mighty Offense

 

I'm not sure if healing potions count for Killer's Alchemy -- if they do, you can do that first.



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All Rogues, Necromancers, Knight Enchanters and Champions are stupidly powerful solo. It's not a matter of whether you can do it, but rather how fast you can do it.

 

I suggest you try with a Rift Mage or Reaver. Both will work fine in the main game, but you might find it interesting in the DLCs, possibly even challenging.

 

I would advise against Templars, as their damage is definitely too low to be enjoyable for most people solo. With that said, I personally love soloing on a no specialization warrior, but I know it's not for everyone for that specific reason.



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You have to define what you mean by "best" or else all you get are a bunch of "my favorite class is ..." posts.

 

You can beat the game solo NM with any combination of anything, but if you are looking for easiest  to play for a mostly button-masher combat style, I'd vote Archer Assassin. Archer Tempest is my second choice, but due to Killer's Alchemy, there is a preparation routine to get maximum damage. It's not hard, but it breaks the flow of action for a button-masher style, so that's why I mention it.

 

Routine (typical -- there are variations depending on which elixir is "up")

 

1. Flask of Lightning

2. Regen potion

3. Mighty Offense

 

I'm not sure if healing potions count for Killer's Alchemy -- if they do, you can do that first.

Yea thats a good Idea. I am torn between thousand cuts and Flask of lightning vs Hidden blades and Mark with auto crit out  of stealth, which to be honest is kinda insane with stealth/full draw.

 

All Rogues, Necromancers, Knight Enchanters and Champions are stupidly powerful solo. It's not a matter of whether you can do it, but rather how fast you can do it.

 

I suggest you try with a Rift Mage or Reaver. Both will work fine in the main game, but you might find it interesting in the DLCs, possibly even challenging.

 

I would advise against Templars, as their damage is definitely too low to be enjoyable for most people solo. With that said, I personally love soloing on a no specialization warrior, but I know it's not for everyone for that specific reason.

I was thinking of doing a KE but I am not sure I would not get bored, reaver on the other hand I just finished a playthrough with so not in the mood for that. I think will do a rogue, just not sure if tempest or assassin at this point.



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Okay basically in this situation it comes down to if you want to always use exploit stealth or the flask system. Other than that there is not much difference between the two. Assassin archer "buffs" himself via stealth and tempest via 3 flasks to boost damage and go turbo. It seems DW assassin is most fun and requires most methiducal careful play.

From mages you got ke down - very safe but ultimately boring.

Second or tied in durability is necro if you exploit its self res mechanics (I can with correct set up have even an ai controlled necromancer solo any fight in the game) but yes the speed of killing dragons is nowhere as fast as that of a rogue with stuff like mark of death or thousand cuts.

Templars are great against general mobs but subpar against units that don't stun, unless you have a weapon which explodes on kill for 100% damage.

Other warriors were covered well in thus thread already.

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All Rogues, Necromancers, Knight Enchanters and Champions are stupidly powerful solo. It's not a matter of whether you can do it, but rather how fast you can do it.

 

I suggest you try with a Rift Mage or Reaver. Both will work fine in the main game, but you might find it interesting in the DLCs, possibly even challenging.

 

I would advise against Templars, as their damage is definitely too low to be enjoyable for most people solo. With that said, I personally love soloing on a no specialization warrior, but I know it's not for everyone for that specific reason.

Templars damage is low. I do believe you have no clue how to play Templar then, they can get out a ton of damage if you know how to.

 

Happy Adventuring :)



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Templars are great against general mobs but subpar against units that don't stun, unless you have a weapon which explodes on kill for 100% damage.
 

 

 

Templars damage is low. I do believe you have no clue how to play Templar then, they can get out a ton of damage if you know how to.

 

 

Templars do less damage to stun immune targets than the other two specializations.  In spec they are completely reliant on wombo combo for burst against clustered mooks.

 

Champion and Reaver both do more damage against large hp sponge targets.



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To be complete, a Templars maximum damage can be approximated with chance on hit mindblast and sufficiently high stagger on being hit.

The only true damage bonus that templars get is the dispel on barriers and buffs, but again those are mostly situational.

Besides we're talking about soloing, so necessarily for warriors this is strictly equivalent to killing high health damage sponges. The rest dies as collateral.

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To be complete, a Templars maximum damage can be approximated with chance on hit mindblast and sufficiently high stagger on being hit.

The only true damage bonus that templars get is the dispel on barriers and buffs, but again those are mostly situational.

Besides we're talking about soloing, so necessarily for warriors this is strictly equivalent to killing high health damage sponges. The rest dies as collateral.

 

Actually I am thinking maybe 2H templar is the most difficult spec to do soloing in warrior classes.

 

SS champion, 2H champion, SS reaver are all good at soloing.

2H reaver is risky, but the burst damage is its adventage.

SS templar is also fine I think, although it will lack of dps when facing bosses and stun immune enemies, but SS tree is very good at survivability. 

However 2H templar will have a problem since your defense sucks and dps is situational. Not impossible, just difficult, especially in two DLCs.



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Since this is sort of the solo meta thread, here is my dumb solo question: when does a solo actually start?



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Since this is sort of the solo meta thread, here is my dumb solo question: when does a solo actually start?

 

Technically, it starts in the Hinterlands, when you say hi to Scout Harding and proceed to work your way towards the Crossroads and start thinking about your strategy to Power up.

 

Officially, it starts whenever you click "confirm" without picking up a party member, nobody is judging you :)


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Actually I am thinking maybe 2H templar is the most difficult spec to do soloing in warrior classes.

 

SS champion, 2H champion, SS reaver are all good at soloing.

2H reaver is risky, but the burst damage is its adventage.

SS templar is also fine I think, although it will lack of dps when facing bosses and stun immune enemies, but SS tree is very good at survivability. 

However 2H templar will have a problem since your defense sucks and dps is situational. Not impossible, just difficult, especially in two DLCs.

 

I can confirm that SS *anything* is fine (very slow though) except for the Arcane Horror boss in The Descent, which I had to respec to two-hander to kill it. I don't think 2H Templar is impossible, it will probably be like 2H Reaver, a temp run back to the entrance & respec to sword and shield might be mandatory to deal with the two Ogres and the end boss, but other than that I believe they're going to mess things up like every other class; a bit slower than the rest, maybe.



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Technically, it starts in the Hinterlands, when you say hi to Scout Harding and proceed to work your way towards the Crossroads and start thinking about your strategy to Power up.

 

Officially, it starts whenever you click "confirm" without picking up a party member, nobody is judging you :)

 

Actually this was in fact what I was wondering, specifically about the prologue.  I don't think you even get the ability to issue orders to them before it drops the Tac Cam bit of the tutorial.  I guess you could try to get all of them to hold somewhere at that point.  I haven't really tried.



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Actually this was in fact what I was wondering, specifically about the prologue.  I don't think you even get the ability to issue orders to them before it drops the Tac Cam bit of the tutorial.  I guess you could try to get all of them to hold somewhere at that point.  I haven't really tried.

IF (and it's a big if, I haven't checked myself) you get access to the AI settings in the latter part of the Prologue, you can disable their AI to simulate solo. So technically, you should be able to solo the first Pride demon. Not sure why you'd want to ... but, it's an option.



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IF (and it's a big if, I haven't checked myself) you get access to the AI settings in the latter part of the Prologue, you can disable their AI to simulate solo. So technically, you should be able to solo the first Pride demon. Not sure why you'd want to ... but, it's an option.

 

I do not know why anyone would want to solo at all, really. If I wanted to solo, I would play something like Grim Dawn and run around without pets as a warlock. This game gives me a party for a reason, might as well use them.



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I do not know why anyone would want to solo at all, really. If I wanted to solo, I would play something like Grim Dawn and run around without pets as a warlock. This game gives me a party for a reason, might as well use them.

 

Because it's fun.

 

The solo gameplay is actually good, too, if you're not exploiting undefeatable boring advantages ("boring" is subjective here, it could be oneshotting, being passively invulnerable, or turning otherwise easy content into long and dangerous grinds depending on who you ask). And it makes the Inquisitor/Warden/Hawke that much of a badass if you're into roleplaying.

 

Honestly it's not limited to soloing, many people simply decide to stop crafting or try to complete the game without overlevelling, or playing with only two or three characters to make it more exciting. Same thing as playing an assquisitor, your comment would be like "if I wanted to roleplay an ******* I'd just play GTA".

 

It's there and it's fun, so why not.


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