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Hexenkind23

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As Mark Darrah stated here on Twitter https://twitter.com/...789428245733381 , they don't have "permission" from EA to develop a next Dragon Age Game yet.

I find it strange that it isn't the case already.
Any thoughts about that from you guys?


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Writers are probably writing down ideas on a sheet of paper regardless. Just in case.

 

Also, Inquisition was the best release in BW's history. I'd say they will greenlight DA4 eventually.

 

Or who knows, maybe they already have, but the policy is to claim otherwise.


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As Mark Darrah stated here on Twitter https://twitter.com/...789428245733381they don't have "permission" from EA to develop a next Dragon Age Game yet.

I find it strange that it isn't the case already.
Any thoughts about that from you guys?

 

What's the history on the "greenlight" process for the previous chapters in the series?



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I'm figuring EA will want to take their total profit & feedback into consideration once the final DLC is released before greenlighting the next game. The overall picture will help them assess budget & development time frames etc.
and the announcement of the next game would completely overshadow the news coverage of the next DLC and compete for coverage with ME:Andromeda which isn't something they will want either, especially since ME is Bioware's most recognisable current series.

I'm certain there will be another DA game; I just don't think it's in their best interests to tell people that at this stage.
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Well EA announced they were switching to a longer life-cycle for games in one of their investor press releases a while back(meaning more DLCs and longer time frames between game releases, but probably more focus on creating a quality base game experience and support for the game because that'll be the basis on which they sell future dlcs). I personally find the notion more appealing than annual releases like CoD or Assassin's Creed.


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Well there are two games Bioware are working on that will most like come out before the next dragon age being MEA and the new IP so it isn't unexpected because we are probably 4 years 4.5 years away from the next DA game



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Well EA announced they were switching to a longer life-cycle for games in one of their investor press releases a while back(meaning more DLCs and longer time frames between game releases, but probably more focus on creating a quality base game experience and support for the game because that'll be the basis on which they sell future dlcs). I personally find the notion more appealing than annual releases like CoD or Assassin's Creed.

 

More than likely, they are going to give it a year.

 

Got to remember, BioWare is making a new IP at the moment, so the extra time off from the Dragon Age team might help push that along. I think a short rest is a good idea right now. Give it some time and perfect the formula even further. 



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I personally think that they maybe haven't done a script for the next game to present to EA yet because they hadn't the time to do it.
Because they most likely have to present something to them to decide if it gets the green light or not.

But still, I always thought they were already working on it, especially because it was a great financial success.



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Inquisition might have been one of the biggest launches in Bioware's history, but until we have sales data for months after launch one cannot really judge why EA might not have greenlit DA4.

That said considering that it took at least a month IIRC before DAI was pirated, so it actually should have sold better than the previous two titles at least in the first month.


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Certainly strange. Here I was hoping to adventure to Tevinter, parts of the Free marches, Seheron maybe, Antiva maybe in a few years.  Wait what? EA is going to have the team shift to making a new Jade Empire (wishful thinking), yes. That's the issue, I figured it out: Jade Empire vs Dragon age. j/k. They, are probably considering how to restructure the dev period for next game vs ly  and previous year sales with respect to release dates, etc.

 

I have a feeling that a 2.5 year dev and release maybe the new goal when and if green-lighted though. 

 

 

 

 

DA:I got green light after DA 2...



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Well there are two games Bioware are working on that will most like come out before the next dragon age being MEA and the new IP so it isn't unexpected because we are probably 4 years 4.5 years away from the next DA game

Wasn't the new IP (Chosen, i believe it's called) canceled? remember reading something like that on a news site a while back



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I tweeted Laidlaw, Darrah, Bioware, and EA to greenlight DA4 so we should be good :) - I generally find when there is a public demand it works well if there is a lot of supporters for an idea *hint hint*



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Eh, I'm glad its not green lighted already.

 

They deserve a break, coming from a new game on an entire new engine, I hate to fathom how much coffee they went through lol.

 

I say let them breath, use that time to help other parts of Bioware, while bringing together everything they've learned, then discuss what to do next at a pace they're comfortable with while waiting to see about getting the green light.


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Wasn't the new IP (Chosen, i believe it's called) canceled? remember reading something like that on a news site a while back


The game that was cancelled was called Shadow Realms. The trailer was called Chosen.

This other new IP is something we really don't know much about, other than David Gaider and some other DA writers are currently working on it. There's an active Twitter thread about it in the No Spoilers subforum.
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What we know:

-Patrick Weekes is the new lead writer for Dragon Age.

-Mass Effect: Andromeda is in the spotlight right now

-BioWare has a new IP to develop

-David Gaider, Mary Kirby, and other veteran writers have been transferred to the new IP

 

What we do not yet know:

-No one has announced that Sheryl Chee, Lukas Kristjanson (I think... although he may be on the new IP too), and the remaining veteran writers have been reassigned.

-No one has announced that "Trespassers" (if that is the English title, as "Intruders" or "Interlopers" are other possible translations) is the last DLC

 

Potentially relevant scuttlebutt/rumors/media:

-We're supposed to be going north in the future.

-When DAI was announced, the devs said that it was not typical to announce any new game so early in its development cycle, but they felt that the cancellation of DA2's expansion merited an early reveal.

-Devs have repeatedly stated that they have enough material for future games

-Devs have repeatedly stated that Dragon Age was never intended to be a trilogy.

-BioWare has its roots in the fantasy RPG genre. They've branched out and been quite successful in other genres, but they know where their bread is buttered.

 

TL;DR: The remaining staff is not going to sit around drinking coffee on company time until Andromeda and the new IP are out of the spotlight. Unless they've all been silently reassigned or laid off, they'll be working on something. Dragon Age isn't dead yet.

 

Edit: Yeah, this is the last DLC. But it does make sense as they seem to be packing up the blueprints for DAI and calling it done so they can move on to the next title.


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:D let them take time on writing it,but i must know now will there be DA4 :wub:


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They deserve a break, coming from a new game on an entire new engine, I hate to fathom how much coffee they went through lol.

 

Isn't most video game work contract in nature?  There's a distinct possibility they might not want a break if it means not getting paid.



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TL;DR: The remaining staff is not going to sit around drinking coffee on company time until Andromeda and the new IP are out of the spotlight. Unless they've all been silently reassigned or laid off, they'll be working on something. Dragon Age isn't dead yet.

 

I think this is the most important bit.  Regardless of anything that EA and Bioware might or might not be doing with the Dragon Age Franchise, they're not going to risk stealing any of the next Mass Effect game's thunder by even putting the idea of more Dragon Age on the table before its release.



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What we do not yet know:

 

-No one has announced that "Trespassers" (if that is the English title, as "Intruders" or "Interlopers" are other possible translations) is the last DLC

Actually, they did say that Trespasser is the last DLC.



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What we know:
-Patrick Weekes is the new lead writer for Dragon Age.
-Mass Effect: Andromeda is in the spotlight right now
-BioWare has a new IP to develop
-David Gaider, Mary Kirby, and other veteran writers have been transferred to the new IP

What we do not yet know:
-No one has announced that Sheryl Chee, Lukas Kristjanson (I think... although he may be on the new IP too), and the remaining veteran writers have been reassigned.
-No one has announced that "Trespassers" (if that is the English title, as "Intruders" or "Interlopers" are other possible translations) is the last DLC

Potentially relevant scuttlebutt/rumors/media:
-We're supposed to be going north in the future.
-When DAI was announced, the devs said that it was not typical to announce any new game so early in its development cycle, but they felt that the cancellation of DA2's expansion merited an early reveal.
-Devs have repeatedly stated that they have enough material for future games
-Devs have repeatedly stated that Dragon Age was never intended to be a trilogy.
-BioWare has its roots in the fantasy RPG genre. They've branched out and been quite successful in other genres, but they know where their bread is buttered.

TL;DR: The remaining staff is not going to sit around drinking coffee on company time until Andromeda and the new IP are out of the spotlight. Unless they've all been silently reassigned or laid off, they'll be working on something. Dragon Age isn't dead yet.

They DID announce that "Trespassers" is the last DLC.

http://www.gameinfor...n-pax-2015.aspx

Edit: Damn, ninja'd!

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Actually, they did say that Trespasser is the last DLC.

Ah, OK. I'll edit my post to fix that. But my point stands: they aren't going to bench the remaining staff until Andromeda is out. There is something in the pipeline even if they aren't talking about it.


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What we know:
-Patrick Weekes is the new lead writer for Dragon Age.
-Mass Effect: Andromeda is in the spotlight right now
-BioWare has a new IP to develop
-David Gaider, Mary Kirby, and other veteran writers have been transferred to the new IP

What we do not yet know:
-No one has announced that Sheryl Chee, Lukas Kristjanson (I think... although he may be on the new IP too), and the remaining veteran writers have been reassigned.
-No one has announced that "Trespassers" (if that is the English title, as "Intruders" or "Interlopers" are other possible translations) is the last DLC

Potentially relevant scuttlebutt/rumors/media:
-We're supposed to be going north in the future.
-When DAI was announced, the devs said that it was not typical to announce any new game so early in its development cycle, but they felt that the cancellation of DA2's expansion merited an early reveal.
-Devs have repeatedly stated that they have enough material for future games
-Devs have repeatedly stated that Dragon Age was never intended to be a trilogy.
-BioWare has its roots in the fantasy RPG genre. They've branched out and been quite successful in other genres, but they know where their bread is buttered.

TL;DR: The remaining staff is not going to sit around drinking coffee on company time until Andromeda and the new IP are out of the spotlight. Unless they've all been silently reassigned or laid off, they'll be working on something. Dragon Age isn't dead yet.

Good summary, but needs one correction. We do know that Trespasser is the last DLC.

http://www.gameinfor...n-pax-2015.aspx

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Ah, OK. I'll edit my post to fix that. But my point stands: they aren't going to bench the remaining staff until Andromeda is out. There is something in the pipeline even if they aren't talking about it.

Agreed. They have something cooking.



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I'm vaguely concerned honestly. I sense a disturbance in the force. Maybe something changed and instead of giving Bioware funding for three big IPs (ME, DA and the new one and SW I guess but who really cares about that anyway?) they're now only giving funding for two and DA didn't do well enough and Bioware/EA has decided to put their eggs in the new IP basket? DA ending now would suuuck. We have to see Minrathous first at the very least. The story's not done yet.



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I certainly think that they will "green light" It, but I was wondering why they didn't do it just yet.
Because an announcement isn't neccessary, they could just silently "allow" bioware to do it. This has nothing to do with each other in my opinion.