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It does get tiring to constantly see it though.

Very much so... but luckily, it seems to be a smaller if dedicated crowd than it used to be.  Maybe they all went to gamefaqs or something... still seems rather popular over there to bash or continually bring up TW franchise at every turn compared to here.  But then, that site is far more cliquish in how absurdly random and quite childish their fanboys are.


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But then, lo and behold, The Force Awakens. 

 

My point is that just because something is the "biggest launch" or "biggest release" or "biggest opening" does not make it a quality product that majority people enjoy. DAI might have been Bioware's best launch, but that does not mean that it is liked by all those who bought it.

 

I for one bought the Inquisitor's Edition on launch day so I contributed to it's "biggest launch" but yet I hate the game cause it has limited cutscenes, filler content, and a dull protagonist. So while the sales numbers were great, the word of mouth and reputation after launch is a whole other monster as well as comparisons to another game that came out months later with even greater sales and review scores but I dare not to mention that game.  


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Nothing makes me happier.
 

Eh, I'm glad its not green lighted already.

 

They deserve a break, coming from a new game on an entire new engine, I hate to fathom how much coffee they went through lol.

 

I say let them breath, use that time to help other parts of Bioware, while bringing together everything they've learned, then discuss what to do next at a pace they're comfortable with while waiting to see about getting the green light.

I wish they don't do another game, but in the matters of deserving a rest... they just made the worst game in Bioware history so all they deserve is to work hard to redeem themselves from this major failure. But... since I know they are not able to do anything good because the ones that made DAO great are out of this disgusting company, I hope they rest like you said, except that I want it to last forever.



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Nothing makes me happier.
 

I wish they don't do another game, but in the matters of deserving a rest... they just made the worst game in Bioware history so all they deserve is to work hard to redeem themselves from this major failure. But... since I know they are not able to do anything good because the ones that made DAO great are out of this disgusting company, I hope they rest like you said, except that I want it to last forever.

 

Worst game in Bioware history? You know David Gaider worked on this and he had a big hand in Origins.

 

Furthermore, it was not the worst game, if anything it was commercially the most successful game.

 

Comments like this make me shake my head. The worst type of fan.


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My point is that just because something is the "biggest launch" or "biggest release" or "biggest opening" does not make it a quality product that majority people enjoy. DAI might have been Bioware's best launch, but that does not mean that it is liked by all those who bought it.

 

I for one bought the Inquisitor's Edition on launch day so I contributed to it's "biggest launch" but yet I hate the game cause it has limited cutscenes, filler content, and a dull protagonist. So while the sales numbers were great, the word of mouth and reputation after launch is a whole other monster as well as comparisons to another game that came out months later with even greater sales and review scores but I dare not to mention that game.  

That game is also starting to see a rising vocal base that isn't all positive.  So holding it up again against this game is not actually proving anything.  



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Nothing makes me happier.
 
I wish they don't do another game, but in the matters of deserving a rest... they just made the worst game in Bioware history so all they deserve is to work hard to redeem themselves from this major failure. But... since I know they are not able to do anything good because the ones that made DAO great are out of this disgusting company, I hope they rest like you said, except that I want it to last forever.

 
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Worst game in Bioware history? You know David Gaider worked on this and he had a big hand in Origins.

 

Furthermore, it was not the worst game, if anything it was commercially the most successful game.

 

Comments like this make me shake my head. The worst type of fan.

 

It's actually poor trolling really


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I am sure the game sold well at launch, but what about the numbers after that? To date, I wonder how much DAI has sold? Had it hit the 4 million or 5 million mark? We dont know.

Again, I just do not see DA moving beyond DA4. I believe DA4 will be the end and Bioware will move focus to the new IP, Mass Effect, SWTOR, and possibly another new IP.


I expect the total life-times sales of DAI to be 5 million, the same as DAO. The Witcher 3 recently hit the 6 million mark after six weeks after it's launch. I don't see the DA franchise continuing honestly, probably they will release a DA4 if I'm being honest but I agree - the franchise will most likely end with DA4. Bioware fumbled their franchise with DA2 and DAI and even if DA4 is like the Witcher 3 in terms of success and being a phenomenal game it won't change the fact that DA is dying.
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It's actually poor trolling really

 

I've just lost my patience for a lot of the stuff i'm reading on here lately. I don't even care if I get banned for cutting into people at this point.


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Nothing makes me happier.

I wish they don't do another game, but in the matters of deserving a rest... they just made the worst game in Bioware history so all they deserve is to work hard to redeem themselves from this major failure. But... since I know they are not able to do anything good because the ones that made DAO great are out of this disgusting company, I hope they rest like you said, except that I want it to last forever.


How's that bitter pill working out for you?
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From experience, large RPG game sequels don't generally get green-lit 8 months after the release of the prior game, especially with the dev teams concentrating on DLC content for the current title. I would expect that the concept portion of the next title will start in about 2 months, after any needed support for currently unreleased content is handled.

 

And to the handful of "DAI didn't make enough" people, stop trolling. Seriously, you don't have any clue what you are talking about.

This.

 

More than likely the next immediate step for them is to prepare a GOTY/Ultimate edition of Inquisition that includes all the bells and whistles. After that, ME:A and the new IP will take over as their focus for the foreseeable future. The fact that a new DA has not yet been greenlit only means it's too soon.



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We shall see....

As of now, I dont see the series progressing past DA4.

DAI might have been Bioware's "best launch" but post launch reception wasnt all positive and many hated the filler content and poor PC support. Again, just cause you buy something doesnt make you a satisfied customer.

The Phantom Menance was also the best launch for a Star Wars movie. I will let you marinate on that thought.....

 

How about you wait til 2017-2018 before getting so hasty with these predictions?


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It doesn't really make a difference to me if DA continues, or if they choose to use the next DLC to end the series and move on to another IP.

 

That having been said, it doesn't really require reading between the lines to correctly interpret "Anything could happen. I'm not worried." "Anything Could Happen" means "There are no guarantees no matter how the odds look" which is correct and "I'm not worried" means that there is no reason to assume that there won't be another DA game.



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I don't see how they *couldn't* continue with another DA game.  I tend to agree with others it is just timing more than anything and other projects being worked on.  


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I certainly hope this saga stops here. So many fails have occurred, i hope they aren't allowed to continue.



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They are trying to figure out how to implement more micro-transactions in the games main part. Probably call it something different to, like it serves to give a more dynamic experience or to accelerate play or its an option to expand your adventure.



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After testing the waters with DA:I and acquiring assets and knowledge from working with frostbyte, everything is set for the real deal sequel.

 

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They've got Star Wars, ME:Andromeda and a new IP on their plate already. So not surprised Dragon Age will be on the backburner for a while.

 

 

This forum has become a trollfest as well. I swear around the 8 month mark all of Bioware's games suddenly suck and was their worst game blah blah blah. Happened with every single one of their post-Baldur's Gate 2 releases, its like a Bioware hate cycle. 


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My point is that just because something is the "biggest launch" or "biggest release" or "biggest opening" does not make it a quality product that majority people enjoy. DAI might have been Bioware's best launch, but that does not mean that it is liked by all those who bought it.

 

I for one bought the Inquisitor's Edition on launch day so I contributed to it's "biggest launch" but yet I hate the game cause it has limited cutscenes, filler content, and a dull protagonist. So while the sales numbers were great, the word of mouth and reputation after launch is a whole other monster as well as comparisons to another game that came out months later with even greater sales and review scores but I dare not to mention that game.  

That also doesn't mean that the majority agrees with the vocal minority either. The number of people that are so vocal about their displeasure on these forums is a relatively small group.

 

And these are only your opinions. There are countless people who are satisfied with the way most of the game plays out, just because you hate it doesn't mean everyone does. Again, vocal minority.

 

And you judge the word of mouth and reputation by what standard? Care to show some quantifiable and objective data to back that claim?

 

And honestly, I really wish you would stop throwing TW3 in everyone's faces, people can play and like both games and they aren't even competing against each other for customers.


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Nothing makes me happier.
 

I wish they don't do another game, but in the matters of deserving a rest... they just made the worst game in Bioware history so all they deserve is to work hard to redeem themselves from this major failure. But... since I know they are not able to do anything good because the ones that made DAO great are out of this disgusting company, I hope they rest like you said, except that I want it to last forever.

 

 

Well, that's a little hard, even for a fan of the DA series like me, who is definitely, in the "I truly disliked DAI" team.

 

I don't think DA will end with DAI (I should say "I hope not"). There is a possibility they will take it very slow this time regarding a future title for the series. I have no doubts DAI had a successful launching. I mean, the hype was very palpable. I was so hyped myself, I even convinced one of my colleagues, one who had never played video games before, to buying the game. So you can imaging that being utterly disappointed with DAI and in so many levels, wasn't easy. I'm not sure if it was the long list of things I didn't like about it or the depth of that dislike about some of them but this is the first time since I started playing Bioware games that I barely finished one playthrough (and I really had to push myself to finish that one) and never looked back to the game.

 

I prefer to see the glass half full so I will hope DAI sold good enough to give a next DA chapter a strong chance to be developed. I don't really care how long it will take. I also hope the devs will reconsider regarding this new large number of races as options for a protagonist and that also, once and for all, stop catering to already dated platforms. IMHO, the first has shown that not even an extra year of development was enough to prevent that feature from sucking big time/resources that otherwise could have been used to release a more finished game, a less rushed ending, given more depth to the main story, more connected side stories and a more developed protagonist and not having to fill an otherwise great game with an inane amount of the most boring fetch quests. the second one, greatly limited the devs from implementing so many features that they were forced to cut later on because those platforms couldn't supported them.

 

Dragon Age lore is an exceptionally good one and I hope it will keep us, old Bioware fans and many new ones busy for many years to come,


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So what? DAI was first announced in Sep. 2012, and Mike Laidlaw said "Production has been about three years, but taking in early concepting, it would be four years" in Nov. 2014.


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"Greenlighted" could just mean "approved for full production." It seem completely sensible to me that EA would not green light another DA game until they get a pitch from Bioware. Which would be a story outline, production timeline, budget, and concept art. Which would mean they'd still be working on it at this time, just not with a full staff.


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What we know for fact but alot of us seem to easily forget is the amount of work the team put into DA:I an continue to do, i'd say a break for them is prob more than welcome, but knowing them that wont happen an they be either put on the new ip or ME:A, both of which are probably now more important to BioWare than any potential DA4.

 

I dont expect a new DA ip to be announced anytime soon tbh



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They've got Star Wars, ME:Andromeda and a new IP on their plate already. So not surprised Dragon Age will be on the backburner for a while.

 

 

This forum has become a trollfest as well. I swear around the 8 month mark all of Bioware's games suddenly suck and was their worst game blah blah blah. Happened with every single one of their post-Baldur's Gate 2 releases, its like a Bioware hate cycle. 

All of this has happened before, and will happen again.



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That also doesn't mean that the majority agrees with the vocal minority either. The number of people that are so vocal about their displeasure on these forums is a relatively small group.
 
And these are only your opinions. There are countless people who are satisfied with the way most of the game plays out, just because you hate it doesn't mean everyone does. Again, vocal minority.
 
And you judge the word of mouth and reputation by what standard? Care to show some quantifiable and objective data to back that claim?
 
And honestly, I really wish you would stop throwing TW3 in everyone's faces, people can play and like both games and they aren't even competing against each other for customers.


Sorry, this isn't a reply exactly. I just want to say thank you for showing me a simpler way of picking out and responding to individual points within an argument. So, thank you, Sunnie. ^_^