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[Snook]

I'd like this to be a potential ending, at least. 

[KaiserShep]

Whats wrong with Mass Effect?

 

The trouble with Mass Effect is that the entire setup is a bit of a joke. To control the reapers or irreversibly alter the fabric of life in the galaxy, you have to go all in and dissolve….for some reason. 

 

"What if I just dropped a little blood into the beam. It's still my DNA, right?"

"NO. It must be all of it. It needs your essence."

 

"WTF is essense? I'm so killing you now, a**hole." 

[actionhero112]

The trouble with Mass Effect is that the entire setup is a bit of a joke. To control the reapers or irreversibly alter the fabric of life in the galaxy, you have to go all in and dissolve….for some reason. 

 

"What if I just dropped a little blood into the beam. It's still my DNA, right?"

"NO. It must be all of it. It needs your essence."

 

"WTF is essense? I'm so killing you now, a**hole." 

You're a "wish for more wishes" type of person, aren't you? 

[Lazarillo]

Yeah, loosely, but Dragon Age has never really been on ASoFAI's level when it came to offing characters. 

 

And that's a good thing.  There's nothing that brings the apathy levels up faster than pointlessly excessive "grittiness".

[Ariella]

I want an Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade ending. If we're supposed to have the ability to dictate our Inquisition's fate...that means The Inquisitor as well.

As for thr graphic with the eluvians and the helmet... I wouldn't be surprised if it's Bioware trolling at its finest.

[Malleficae]

The trouble with Mass Effect is that the entire setup is a bit of a joke. To control the reapers or irreversibly alter the fabric of life in the galaxy, you have to go all in and dissolve….for some reason. 

 

"What if I just dropped a little blood into the beam. It's still my DNA, right?"

"NO. It must be all of it. It needs your essence."

 

"WTF is essense? I'm so killing you now, a**hole." 

 

Destroy is the only legit option. Shepard can go mad over time and most likely Shepard is mad at the end of ME3. I mean he or she has seen tons of death. TONS. Also, tIM wasn't strong enough to control them, Shep won't be either. Let's wait for ME4, it can't be worse than trilogy. :3

[LaughingWolf]

The trouble with Mass Effect is that the entire setup is a bit of a joke. To control the reapers or irreversibly alter the fabric of life in the galaxy, you have to go all in and dissolve….for some reason. 

 

"What if I just dropped a little blood into the beam. It's still my DNA, right?"

"NO. It must be all of it. It needs your essence."

 

"WTF is essense? I'm so killing you now, a**hole." 

 

I guess? I mean you also have the option of destroying the Reapers, as well as the possibility of surviving. And plot holes is hardly unique to the Mass Effect series, Dragon Age has them as well -- just as any series really does.

[KaiserShep]

You're a "wish for more wishes" type of person, aren't you? 

 

I'm more a wish for things to make some kind of sense type of person. Synthesis is a hell of a drug. 

[Malleficae]

I wonder if the graphic is showing the Inquisitor is leaving the Inquisition and facing this threat as herself and not someone of the people? That scene with the book might be her way of saying "you won't help? Fine! I'm done. This is my own fight!" And then her companions come to aid her "who's with me?" and they travel through the eluvian.

 

I think Inquisition left Inquisitor. .___.

[BansheeOwnage]

That much control over what exactly? Death? That sounds like you want to ultimately play as God, deciding what characters live, die, what they become.

Whats wrong with Mass Effect?

Not wanting your character to be forced to die isn't really wanting to play god. Do you think we were playing god in DA:O? As for Mass Effect, well, read KaiserShep's answer.

[9TailsFox]

[KaiserShep]

And that's a good thing.  There's nothing that brings the apathy levels up faster than pointlessly excessive "grittiness".

 

Well, yeah I don't really want DA going the GoT route of how it deals with the fate of its characters. 

[BansheeOwnage]

The trouble with Mass Effect is that the entire setup is a bit of a joke. To control the reapers or irreversibly alter the fabric of life in the galaxy, you have to go all in and dissolve….for some reason. 

 

"What if I just dropped a little blood into the beam. It's still my DNA, right?"

"NO. It must be all of it. It needs your essence."

 

"WTF is essense? I'm so killing you now, a**hole." 

Including your armour and weapon. That way in synthesis, everyone will be part Carnifex! Shepard "dying" in destroy (and yes, you get vapourized before the Breath Scene too before magically re-materializing) is also extremely contrived. I have a gun. Why do I need to run at the tube to shoot it? Guns are ranged weapons. It's all stupid unless it's symbolic.

[LaughingWolf]

Not wanting your character to be forced to die isn't really wanting to play god. Do you think we were playing god in DA:O? As for Mass Effect, well if you don't know, it's not really worth explaining.

I don't want it be forced, but I don't it to be as simple as press A to live, press B to die. It should be similar to ME2 where if you don't prepare, people will die. Or DA:O where if you want to live, you're gonna have to do something evil-y or selfish.

 

I know what you're referring to "wrong" with ME, it's always the ending people complain about. I just don't know what specifically was your issue with it. 

[leaguer of one]

Yeah, loosely, but Dragon Age has never really been on ASoFAI's level when it came to offing characters. 

That always up to player choice and actions. Lots of side characters die in da. And lost of main character do get offed. All but 2 character from dao can die, All but 2 character in da2 can die and with dai, with this dlc, we don't know who will survive.

[Kabraxal]

The "hero dies at the end" is a really old cliche but it isn't used that much anymore. Most fantasy or sci-fi grand adventures end now with the hero surviving but the love interest dying.

 

Actually, in many of the recent fantasy books, the trend has been darker, "grittier', less mature as they fling rape and death around for cheap emotional responses... this usually means quite a few of the main characters die as well as practically any likeable character period... if you are lucky enough one even exists in most of these horrid worlds popping up.  

 

That is what I liked about Origins... it let you go pretty dark but also let the player steer the story to a brighter side.  So, in one run you could have a rather bleak world and another, a much better one.  Though even then, it didn't make most characters so damn unlikeable you want the whole world to burn no matter what.  

Yeah, loosely, but Dragon Age has never really been on ASoFAI's level when it came to offing characters. 

Thank everything possible for that.... at this point, GRRM can't even bother writing a passable story because he is so in love with his cliches of characters either dying horribly or suffering horribly that the books are gaining value as comedic farces in fantasy.  They are like c grade horror films that are just hilarious because they hit the cliches so hard.  It was a fun twist in the first book or two, but became a tiresome "o come on... get a new trick already" by book four.  

[BansheeOwnage]

I don't want it be forced, but I don't it to be as simple as press A to live, press B to die. It should be similar to ME2 where if you don't prepare, people will die. Or DA:O where if you want to live, you're gonna have to do something evil-y or selfish.

Yes, those two approaches worked well. I especially like the one where preparing and planning is key. That way if you want to live, you have to put some amount of effort in instead of everyone getting the same ending no matter what.

[leaguer of one]

The trouble with Mass Effect is that the entire setup is a bit of a joke. To control the reapers or irreversibly alter the fabric of life in the galaxy, you have to go all in and dissolve….for some reason. 

 

"What if I just dropped a little blood into the beam. It's still my DNA, right?"

"NO. It must be all of it. It needs your essence."

 

"WTF is essense? I'm so killing you now, a**hole." 

It's clearly more then just dna.

[Almostfaceman]

The inquisition as a super power is being shat all over, those scrubs in both Orlea & Fereldan want you dead (why?), your mark is outta control and to top it all off a bunch of horn headed freaks are out to destroy freedom. 

 

There's gonna be lot's of drama, politics, murder & whatnot. The usual MO but this has the distinct feel of being the fourth & final act of DA:I.

 

Here's hoping the DA team don't just play it safe having the Hero's defeat the invaders & wrap it up with the mother of all exposition co*k teases from Solas before he F's off through an eluvian (Witch Hunt anyone?) 

 

Without a doubt the Solas Co*k tease is coming    but the trailer shows so much political & personal unrest for the inquisitor that I feel it would be a huge cop out if you just saved Thedas hunky dory then just ride the bull off over the sun set & call it a day.

 

The inquisition as a super power of Thedas has to go along with it's leader IMO. The invasion/ politics destroy the inquisition & the mark destroys the Herald. 

 

Personally I would find this so much more interesting than the same old same old fairytale hero saves the world & is redeemed type of conclusions.

 

So do the right thing Bioware & kill the inquisitor    

 

[KaiserShep]

It's clearly more then just dna.

Yeah, it's "essence", or "energy", or whatever other word to represent total metaphysical nonsense. 

 

Enter the Intrinsic Field Subtractor Shepard, and it'll cure what ails the galaxy!
 

[Ariella]

Yeah, it's "essence", or "energy", or whatever other word to represent total metaphysical nonsense.

Space magic.

And I like the idea of an ME 2 approach rather than the DAO cheat. We've done the latter in Dragon Age, and the former would be in keeping with part of what Inquisition is about.

[LaughingWolf]

Yes, those two approaches worked well. I especially like the one where preparing and planning is key. That way if you want to live, you have to put some amount of effort in instead of everyone getting the same ending no matter what.

 

Exactly! I just don't want it to be as simple as you chose whether or not you're dying or surviving. It should be something like if you don't prepare properly some companions die, or you die, or there is a choice like "someone has to hold this position" and who ever you choose, whether it be yourself or a companion, dies unless they have X or you've done X