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[JD Buzz]

I think having the Inquisitor die should be one of several options. We're choosing an epilogue that's best fit for our stories anyway. For example, I have two Inquisitors that I can give a good send off while another can end tragically given those choices.

[KaiserShep]

I'm trying to get a handle on "No, they have to kill them off in the main story", and how that would actually work. So Cory wins? Maybe both of you get sucked into the Fade and the anchor blows up? The absolute best way to deal with this is to kill them off in the last chapter of Inquisition. It prevents all the spam about how Inqy is coming back for the next game, or the one after that. How many posts in this thread have mentioned the Warden's return for the next game? I'll be there's been more than one, and it's not even Tuesday yet. They'd have been better off killing the Warden off at the end of Awakening, no matter who the Warden was.

 

I think the whole Warden thing is overblown and not a big deal. Who really cares about thread spam complaining about the character coming back anyway? I'd much rather have options for the fate of the character, than having a fixed outcome just so people don't moan about it on the internet. Though let's be honest, it'll just be more complaining anyway.

[9TailsFox]

I think the whole Warden thing is overblown and not a big deal. Who really cares about thread spam complaining about the character coming back anyway? I'd much rather have options for the fate of the character, than having a fixed outcome just so people don't moan about it on the internet. 

Let people moan. Why must main character to die. Why must every character in past game must be mentioned.

Inquisitor: So Hero of Ferelden.

Morrigan. Not your dame business, don't ask again.

[BansheeOwnage]

 

It may be optional, but it's not a DLC that can be played just for fun when you first get to Skyhold. This ends your story for good until you role a new character and start over.

 

Not only that, but the story of this DLC will happen in your worldstate regardless of it you buy it, so you can't just decide not to buy it to keep your Inquisitor alive.

 

Yeah but the hero's death is not something you stuff into optional content. It is pretty vital (no pun intended) content.

Agreed 100%. It would be wrong and lame in so many ways if it wasn't avoidable.

[MrMrPendragon]

I don't know man.

 

The Inquisitor survived a hole in the sky and vs an ancient darkspawn magister with his dragon - no matter how weak he is, he still is a magister and is supposedly pretty powerful if we're looking at it solely in a story perspective. It's going to take a lot to bring the Inquisitor down.

 

They'd have to conjure a pretty big problem where the Inquisitor has absolutely no choice but to either lose and die, or sacrifice himself and win. If the reason is not compelling enough, it might come across as Bioware writing off the Inquisitor just because. Not only that, but that "problem" we have to solve should only be DLC-sized.

[myahele]

I guess no matter what happens the Inquisition will have to be disbanded :\

 

Hopefully there'll be a choice to sacrifice yourself or do live.

[BansheeOwnage]

I guess no matter what happens the Inquisition will have to be disbanded :\

 

Hopefully there'll be a choice to sacrifice yourself or do live.

Bioware did say you will "decide the fate of the Inquisition" so it's still up in the air.

[KaiserShep]

I'd like to have the option to disband the Inquisition and have the core cast part ways to do whatever (and perhaps have one or two stick with the Inquisitor).

[SweetTeaholic]

You know the Inquisitor could still live and not play a role in future games? In the matter of fact; I wouldn't mind that. You don't need to link all the protagonists together nor do they have to be doing something big. All we know, the Inquisitor may lose the mark if they live, sized down to normal like how they were before The Breach. What if they disband the Inquisition and decided to do whatever they wish. It's not like the HoF who's on a quest to find a cure for the Calling doesn't have reason for it? What else would the Inquisitor really want to do?

 

They entered the fade, fought demons, traveled back in time or faced down a powerful demon trying to become them, got people out of Haven and dropped a mountain on top of Cory, infuriated a Grey Warden fortress which lead them into the fade...again, decided the fate of who will rule a nation, may or may not have drank from a pool of magical goo and meant a Elven Goddess...

 

Eeeyeah, after that, I'm dead set on retiring. And my canon Inquisitor, if she lives; will do just that and wrap up the Inquisition and maybe settle down with her Tal Vashoth boyfriend and have a brood of there own that they have a big ass family because neither of them could keep in there pants...

 

She, or my other Inquisitors could be doing something else that isn't all that lore breaking if they live.

 

See what I'm saying? Not every PC has to play a role in later games. And being it's rumored that the next game will be up in Northen Thedas anyways and the Inquisition was a southern thing; I don't see how much the Inquisitor could do. Maybe send the next PC a note supporting whatever cause they're doing up there and some supplies (being the Qunari are going to play a big role in the next game if the DLC is to go by, I would think there maybe some upset down south too and my Tal Vashoth Quizzy is anti-Qun and would do whatever she could to at least help send them back to Pal Vollen even if retired) or something of the like.

 

Bioware set themselves up with the Warden though so they better do something with that being it would be poor planning on there part to just leave it there.

[robertthebard]

You know the Inquisitor could still live and not play a role in future games? In the matter of fact; I wouldn't mind that. You don't need to link all the protagonists together nor do they have to be doing something big. All we know, the Inquisitor may lose the mark if they live, sized down to normal like how they were before The Breach. What if they disband the Inquisition and decided to do whatever they wish. It's not like the HoF who's on a quest to find a cure for the Calling doesn't have reason for it? What else would the Inquisitor really want to do?
 
They entered the fade, fought demons, traveled back in time or faced down a powerful demon trying to become them, got people out of Haven and dropped a mountain on top of Cory, infuriated a Grey Warden fortress which lead them into the fade...again, decided the fate of who will rule a nation, may or may not have drank from a pool of magical goo and meant a Elven Goddess...
 
Eeeyeah, after that, I'm dead set on retiring. And my canon Inquisitor, if she lives; will do just that and wrap up the Inquisition and maybe settle down with her Tal Vashoth boyfriend and have a brood of there own that they have a big ass family because neither of them could keep in there pants...
 
She, or my other Inquisitors could be doing something else that isn't all that lore breaking if they live.
 
See what I'm saying? Not every PC has to play a role in later games. And being it's rumored that the next game will be up in Northen Thedas anyways and the Inquisition was a southern thing; I don't see how much the Inquisitor could do. Maybe send the next PC a note supporting whatever cause they're doing up there and some supplies (being the Qunari are going to play a big role in the next game if the DLC is to go by, I would think there maybe some upset down south too and my Tal Vashoth Quizzy is anti-Qun and would do whatever she could to at least help send them back to Pal Vollen even if retired) or something of the like.
 
Bioware set themselves up with the Warden though so they better do something with that being it would be poor planning on there part to just leave it there.

This is, however, exactly why they should kill off the Inquisitor. There is absolutely no way for anyone to even invent some reason that "The Inquisitor is the best suited to deal with XX" if they're dead, and frankly, there's no way that I can see that they could have killed the Inquisitor off before now. If they die in the main campaign, then everything has to be added, DLC wise, in the time frame of, and there can be no post game, because dead. So, they wait until the very end of this chapter of Thedas' story, and kill off the Inquisitor.

At the end of the day, they've been telling us all along that this isn't about the characters, but the setting. I'm curious to see where that story goes, and frankly, I'm tired of hearing about how "The Warden would have been better", or "Hawke would have been better" despite all the hate that Hawke got while DA 2 was still alive. I mean, the reason the last DA II DLC was absorbed into Inquisition, I think I read that somewhere anyway, is because of all the hate that DA II got on these very boards. Now, to read the forums, it was the best thing since sliced bread according to some people...

[Ariella]

I'm curious to see where that story goes, and frankly, I'm tired of hearing about how "The Warden would have been better", or "Hawke would have been better" despite all the hate that Hawke got while DA 2 was still alive. I mean, the reason the last DA II DLC was absorbed into Inquisition, I think I read that somewhere anyway, is because of all the hate that DA II got on these very boards. Now, to read the forums, it was the best thing since sliced bread according to some people...

It'll be the same if they kill the IQ, but it'll be 'the Inquisitor would have been so much better, so of course Bioware was stupid and killed him!'

And after that we will hear pissing and moaning about how the new game sucks and DAI was the best thing since sliced bread.

I do agree that the yelling about the HoF is tiresome, though I'll admit I would have liked to see Hawke either dealing with the war or as the IQ, but I liked Hawke.

I also like my Inquisitor so, would like her to stay alive and retire. It'd be a nice change of pace from mysterous disappearing and hunted fugitive ends (for me at least).

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Modifié par Ariella, 31 août 2015 - 12:15 .

[Neon Rising Winter]

This is, however, exactly why they should kill off the Inquisitor. There is absolutely no way for anyone to even invent some reason that "The Inquisitor is the best suited to deal with XX" if they're dead, and frankly, there's no way that I can see that they could have killed the Inquisitor off before now. If they die in the main campaign, then everything has to be added, DLC wise, in the time frame of, and there can be no post game, because dead. So, they wait until the very end of this chapter of Thedas' story, and kill off the Inquisitor.

At the end of the day, they've been telling us all along that this isn't about the characters, but the setting. I'm curious to see where that story goes, and frankly, I'm tired of hearing about how "The Warden would have been better", or "Hawke would have been better" despite all the hate that Hawke got while DA 2 was still alive. I mean, the reason the last DA II DLC was absorbed into Inquisition, I think I read that somewhere anyway, is because of all the hate that DA II got on these very boards. Now, to read the forums, it was the best thing since sliced bread according to some people...

 

I don't know, how about we ignore the anticipated complaints of a bunch of wrongmos on the internet and go for something that reflects off earlier elements. I believe it's Giselle in Haven who mentions the original inquisition saw their time was over and just stopped. I'd very much like that to be an option here. Follow in the steps of your predecessors.

[KaiserShep]

This is, however, exactly why they should kill off the Inquisitor. There is absolutely no way for anyone to even invent some reason that "The Inquisitor is the best suited to deal with XX" if they're dead, and frankly, there's no way that I can see that they could have killed the Inquisitor off before now. If they die in the main campaign, then everything has to be added, DLC wise, in the time frame of, and there can be no post game, because dead. So, they wait until the very end of this chapter of Thedas' story, and kill off the Inquisitor.

At the end of the day, they've been telling us all along that this isn't about the characters, but the setting. I'm curious to see where that story goes, and frankly, I'm tired of hearing about how "The Warden would have been better", or "Hawke would have been better" despite all the hate that Hawke got while DA 2 was still alive. I mean, the reason the last DA II DLC was absorbed into Inquisition, I think I read that somewhere anyway, is because of all the hate that DA II got on these very boards. Now, to read the forums, it was the best thing since sliced bread according to some people...

 

That's not a really good reason to kill off a character. If the writers choose to off the protagonist, it should be because it's some vision of theirs and that they have what they feel is a really good idea why the character's story should end in death. Doing it as a preemptive strike against complaining is much worse than the complaining itself. 

 

In Origins, it makes sense for the Warden to die, but why should the Warden's death be set in stone, when it's established from the beginning that there is more than one Warden in the group? Sure, if it was possible to screw yourself over because you got rid of Alistair before discovering the truth, that'd be something, but it's at least a condition you can choose to get into, not something that's fixed. I think it's more fun when you can have a more variable conclusion to the story. For all the complaining about Shepard, at least even there you had a choice. 

[Nixou]

And after that we will hear pissing and moaning about how the new game sucks and DAI was the best thing since sliced bread.

 

 

You know you belong to the cream of the crop when you have your very own Zelda cycle

[Cz-99]

Only if I get to take scumbag Orlais down with me.

[KaiserShep]

Only if I get to take scumbag Orlais down with me.

 

Heh, I know right? None should suffer a legacy with surviving Orlesians. 

[Ariella]

You know you belong to the cream of the crop when you have your very own Zelda cycle

We made the big time!

Though I remember a time when you could only complain about Zelda in written form was to pass notes during class.

[Nixou]

Only if I get to take scumbag Orlais down with me.

 

Certainly not: I want a full game devoted to ending the Orlesian monarchy, with revolutionary songs and guillotines aplenty

[KaiserShep]

An entire game in Orlais? Surely the maker isn't that cruel. 

[kyles3]

I don't need the Inquisitor to die, though I'm not opposed to it--I did kill off half my Wardens, after all. I'd just like the Inquisitor to pay some kind of price for accruing so much power, face some kind of real adversity--because after Haven her story is, in my opinion, rather dull. After reaching Skyhold, she's never really challenged or tested, and always comes out on top. While I enjoyed so much of DA:I, the central plot felt more like a boring Skyrim-esque power fantasy than the sort of gripping narrative I've come to expect from BioWare.

 

If the final DLC simply provides more of the companion-y goodness we've all been craving, that'll be enough for me. But I hope there's something more to it than that.

[BansheeOwnage]

I don't need the Inquisitor to die, though I'm not opposed to it--I did kill off half my Wardens, after all. I'd just like the Inquisitor to pay some kind of price for accruing so much power, face some kind of real adversity--because after Haven her story is, in my opinion, rather dull. After reaching Skyhold, she's never really challenged or tested, and always comes out on top. While I enjoyed so much of DA:I, the central plot felt more like a boring Skyrim-esque power fantasy than the sort of gripping narrative I've come to expect from BioWare.

 

If the final DLC simply provides more of the companion-y goodness we've all been craving, that'll be enough for me. But I hope there's something more to it than that.

It really looks like the DLC will deliver on both companion content and the Inquisitor finally being in danger/challenged. It looks like it, anyway. We'll just have to see. I hope whether or not you drank from the well makes a difference too.

 

The mark is permanent, and the mark is killing you again. That doesn't look good. Maybe we can find a loophole like cutting off your hand, or maybe Solas knows more about it than he let on (probably). The Inquisitor did say "I need you." In a very desperate tone in the trailer.

[Ariella]

It's implied at the very beginning the Anchor isn't just in the hand. Remember, the mark spread. It's possible, even probable that this Qunari advance has something to do with it as the Qunari do have a connection to Solas and his magic.

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A Saarabas knew about this, so might the Ben-Hassreth.

[Sabariel]

I will never understand this strange desire people have for the hero to die. I'd rather my Inquisitor retire and live on a farm, a nug farm.