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#276
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Most of Thedas doesn't either, outside nobility and only for heir and inheritance reasons. There's no real taboo to homosexuality or bisexuality beyond that.

 

Yeah, the whole Gayngst thing is kind of a dead issue. Racism on the other hand ...

 

Orlesian Noble 1: Empress Celene is sleeping with a woman!

 

Orlesian Noble 2: Eh.

 

Orlesian Noble 1: And that woman has POINTY EARS!

 

Orlesian Noble 2:

 

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Yeah, the whole Gayngst thing is kind of a dead issue. Racism on the other hand ...

 

Orlesian Noble 1: Empress Celene is sleeping with a woman!

 

Orlesian Noble 2: Eh.

 

Orlesian Noble 1: And that woman has POINTY EARS!

 

Orlesian Noble 2:

Calling it racism might be a bit dodgy? I mean it's a different sort of race we're talking about here



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WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT

So bioware is now obligated to first read yo damn mind and put in a character for you that's your perfect dream girl, because that's how life works.

Two completely say fudge it to a characters personality and history and make them a choice because you want them, as if like you said people don't have preferences. Sorry Vivienne loved another that was dying in front of the whole time.
And that Sera doesn't like wieners, You don't like them so why should she?

So please shut up with the whole I'm straight and don't have options thing that's the life of a inquisitor and you paid 60-70 dollops to live when we ALL KNEW WHO THE ROMANCES WERE BEFORE THE GAME WAS RELEASED.
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Calling it racism might be a bit dodgy? I mean it's a different sort of race we're talking about here

 

Prejudice against other species is racism. The turian said so.



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Cullen was originally intended to be a romance option for both, but was cut due to time constraints (Solas too), so if anything, they've been reverse Anders..ed.

 

That's questionable about Solas, since on one panel or the other it was said that Weekes kind of wrote it specifically for female elves. It probably did help that it was so limited, since they might not have been able to do it otherwise.



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Funny, that, right?  People aren't mages.  Aren't dwarves, qunari, and elves.  But sexuality and gender is something different entirely.  Not that it's a problem.  Everyone is free to play however they want, but I always find that amusing.

 

"WHAT?!?  How can you expect me to play a gay fire-producing elf?  Don't be unrealistic.  My fire-producing elf must be straight!"

 

 

That's a little unfair, isn't it? Personally, I've had a lot of fun at on occasion role-playing characters that are different from me in one way or another, but all people can be interested or not interested in playing certain types of characters for any number of reasons. 

 

I mean I remember a thread somewhere on BSN where many LGBT people were talking about how they never interested in playing straight characters. Or in other cases it was awkward for people of playing a different gender.

 

And, given the choice, I imagine players of any ethnic group will often times try to make their characters look vaguely like themselves, even if they are playing non human races. 

 

It's hardly something that only applies to straight guys.


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Your reading comprehension astounds me. Everyone should strive to ignore parts of posts, just as you have done. Like I said, choosing not to romance anyone just because the only options are bad options isn't the same as choosing not to romance anyone from an RP perspective. I, the player, do not like Cassandra or Josephine as romance options. A different Inquisitor isn't going to change that.

 

Well you sound just delightful. Pardon me for offering a suggestion.

RP or not, if you don't like a character, don't romance them. You want to romance Sera, play a female Inq. BW shouldn't have to add more options because the ones they've provided you with aren't good enough for you.



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WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT

So bioware is now obligated to first read yo damn mind and put in a character for you that's your perfect dream girl

Basically. What, that's a problem? :P



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That's a little unfair, isn't it? Personally, I've had a lot of fun at on occasion role-playing characters that are different from me in one way or another, but all people can be interested or not interested in playing certain types of characters for any number of reasons.

I mean I remember a thread somewhere on BSN where many LGBT people were talking about how they never interested in playing straight characters. Or in other cases it was awkward for people of playing a different gender.

And, given the choice, I imagine players of any ethnic group will many times try to make their characters look vaguely like themselves, even if they are playing non human races.

It's hardly something that only applies to straight guys.

But those are the wonders of a RPG you get to live on the wild side and be a white gay male that bangs everyone. Or a sassy black woman that's stingy with her kutty cat.

Edit.

Be gay, straight, bi, woman, male, elf, dwarf, for a day even tho it's fake. I mean you paid for it might as well

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As a straight woman, I enjoyed Dorian's romance the most.  First game ever where I felt compelled to play as a dude (multiple times no less) to romance him.  But I digress.  Carry on...



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But those are the wonders of a RPG you get to live on the wild side and be a white gay male that bangs everyone. Or a sassy black woman that's stingy with her kutty cat.

Edit.

Be gay, straight, bi, woman, male, elf, dwarf, for a day even tho it's fake. I mean you paid for it might as well

 

Some people are interested in some or all of those things and other people are not.

 

My point is that it's not really any weirder for (to use one example) a straight person to not be interested in making a gay character than a gay player to not care to play a straight character.


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Basically. What, that's a problem? :P


You tell me

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Your reading comprehension astounds me. Everyone should strive to ignore parts of posts, just as you have done. Like I said, choosing not to romance anyone just because the only options are bad options isn't the same as choosing not to romance anyone from an RP perspective. I, the player, do not like Cassandra or Josephine as romance options. A different Inquisitor isn't going to change that.

 

 

 

Yeah I'm not sure what you mean since I never finished DA2 but no, there's no reason that Cullen and Blackwall couldn't be bi. Hell, it's a pretty good explanation for why Blackwall always preferred to be alone, he felt unable to be himself even among his fellow Wardens.

 

 

He was a wanted man on the run . There are a number on reasons why . And no I will not list them .  

 

Cullen was originally intended to be a romance option for both, but was cut due to time constraints (Solas too), so if anything, they've been reverse Anders..ed.

 

Bioware clearly made the right decision . What was originally intended is no longer relevant . 



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Please remove Cullen & Blackwall from the gay males list. Let's not Anders them thank you.  -_-

 

:rolleyes:


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It's perfectly fine for someone to say "I didn't find the options I had appealing."

 

People do that all the time, here. No matter how many or how few options they had, none might be suited to their personal taste. And there's really no taste more personal than who you find physically or romantically attractive.

 

We offered two female romance options to straight male players in DAO, DA2, and DAI. Someone's view on whether either of the two in any of those games was personally appealing will vary, but one simply has to look at the characters overall to see that we don't tend to repeat ourselves insofar as "types" go. If there was no "type" for you this game, that's really too bad, and there's no harm in saying so.

 

The part where this conversation often goes south is when the implication is carried with it that the "straight man" in question has tastes that apply to all straight men, as if there were a universal standard of beauty that all straight men subscribe to. Perhaps they're trying to say the options lacked someone "conventionally attractive" enough...which may just be a way of them dancing around trying not to say "why didn't you give me a hot, buxom babe?"

 

No? Didn't mean that? Fair enough, but understand there's only so many ways to interpret that kind of question.

 

Regardless, even if that was what someone meant, all the dev team's ever going to respond with is "hopefully the next game will have someone more to your taste". Like Is said earlier, our emphasis is always on making an interesting variety of characters, and the artists don't generally try to tailor their appearances towards some kind of "hot or not?" metric. Some folks may think they're owed a romance option that hits their particular button -- and I'll just point out that this sort of entitlement is hardly restricted to straight guys alone -- but that's simply never going to happen.

 

Certain folks (cough) like to assume this kind of denial of their manly desires must be the work of "SJW's and feminists" (sic), since that's clearly the only reason why someone wouldn't cater to their particular demographic (which, as we all know, consists of all straight men and any so-called straight man who doesn't consider themselves part of that group is either brainwashed, cowardly, or lying, if not all three). Perhaps they're more sensitive to being denied options others are (in their eyes) receiving, because they're not accustomed to it? Arguable. Either way, if the OP is wondering why his relatively-innocent question is being reacted to in this manner...well, it's come up. :)


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It's perfectly fine for someone to say "I didn't find the options I had appealing."

People do that all the time, here. No matter how many or how few options they had, none might be suited to their personal taste. And there's really no taste more personal than who you find physically or romantically attractive.

We offered two female romance options to straight male players in DAO, DA2, and DAI. Someone's view on whether either of the two in any of those games was personally appealing will vary, but one simply has to look at the characters overall to see that we don't tend to repeat ourselves insofar as "types" go. If there was no "type" for you this game, that's really too bad, and there's no harm in saying so.

The part where this conversation often goes south is when the implication is carried with it that the "straight man" in question has tastes that apply to all straight men, as if there were a universal standard of beauty that all straight men subscribe to. Perhaps they're trying to say the options lacked someone "conventionally attractive" enough...which may just be a way of them dancing around trying not to say "why didn't you give me a hot, buxom babe?"

No? Didn't mean that? Fair enough, but understand there's only so many ways to interpret that kind of question.

Regardless, even if that was what someone meant, all the dev team's ever going to respond with is "hopefully the next game will have someone more to your taste". Like Is said earlier, our emphasis is always on making an interesting variety of characters, and the artists don't generally try to tailor their appearances towards some kind of "hot or not?" metric. Some folks may think they're owed a romance option that hits their particular button -- and I'll just point out that this sort of entitlement is hardly restricted to straight guys alone -- but that's simply never going to happen.

Certain folks (cough) like to assume this kind of denial of their manly desires must be the work of "SJW's and feminists" (sic), since that's clearly the only reason why someone wouldn't cater to their particular demographic (which, as we all know, consists of all straight men and any so-called straight man who doesn't consider themselves part of that group is either brainwashed, cowardly, or lying, if not all three). Perhaps they're more sensitive to being denied options others are (in their eyes) receiving, because they're not accustomed to it? Arguable. Either way, if the OP is wondering why his relatively-innocent question is being reacted to in this manner...well, it's come up. :)


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:rolleyes:

 

 

-_-



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Let me waifu everything. This game is an exercise in waifuing, and it's the only kind of exercise I plan to do for the rest of my life. 

 

 

 I swear to god, if I don't come out of the eluvian with my Cassandra-chan body pillow in Trespasser, there will be very angry forum posts in which I will sarcastically insinuate Gaider is a hippopotamus. 


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Yeah except Lace is always outside The Tavern and by your standards Josie & Cullen aren't practical LI's considering they dont travel with you so yeah theres that.

 

No it's either or.  It would be hard to have a romance with a person who doesn't travel with you and whose job means she'd usually not be in Skyhold when you are there either.  



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Let me waifu everything. This game is an exercise in waifuing, and it's the only kind of exercise I plan to do for the rest of my life.


I swear to god, if I don't come out of the eluvian with my Cassandra-chan body pillow in Trespasser, there will be very angry forum posts in which I will sarcastically insinuate Gaider is a hippopotamus.


Everyone needs a waifu in their life mine is Vivienne but sadly thou can notith haveith her for she is in lovith withith the oldith fart

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No it's either or.  It would be hard to have a romance with a person who doesn't travel with you and whose job means she'd usually not be in Skyhold when you are there either.  

 

Except she's ALWAYS there on break when you go back. Additionally, she's in every zone you go to, as she's the one that gives you the scout report when you first arrive.


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Let me waifu everything

 

 

Step one: Buy a 3DS

Step two: Buy Fire Emblem Awakening



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In future games can we just have some genderless alien creature incapable of feeling anything remotely romantic towards another being? I've had enough of these male vs female, hetrosexual vs homosexual threads on here. It's impossible to cater to everyone and make them all happy so the easiest option is to just cater to nobody.

It's a ridiculous trope anyway. Dreaming about screwing space alien women because they might look like exotic hotties is a pulp fantasy. And why must we assume that space aliens want to impregnate human women? Granted the opposite side is xenophobia, but humans are the only species that dreams of screwing other mammals. 



#299
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Many black women cut their hair short.

 

Brooks had perfectly straight hair.

Famous African singer, Angelique Kidjo also keeps her hair short. I posted examples in the past. So it's more common than we think. Just because Orlais is based on old French culture doesn't mean we should assume Western viewpoints.



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It's a ridiculous trope anyway. Dreaming about screwing space alien women because they might look like exotic hotties is a pulp fantasy. And why must we assume that space aliens want to impregnate human women? Granted the opposite side is xenophobia, but humans are the only species that dreams of screwing other mammals. 

 

I once saw a nature documentary that mentions that in the wild, male elephants try to have sex with rhinos if there are no female elephants around.


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