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#51
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Well... I speak only for myself but, being a male, I cannot play female. I coudn't immerse myself into the role properly. So for me, or anyone who agrees with me, the path is blocked. 

 

 

Anyone else get a little turned on every time she kicks down a wall?

More than that. I like when she snarls at something or someone.. I really like that woman, but since I was not in good terms with her during my run, I romanced Josie. I would like to turn back...:(



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Romaces were kind of lame for straight male gamers

 

BioWare doesn't create romances for straight, gay, or bisexual gamers.

 

BioWare creates characters who are straight, gay, or bisexual.


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BioWare doesn't create romances for straight, gay, or bisexual gamers.

 

BioWare creates characters who are straight, gay, or bisexual.

 

If you want a romance, date someone. DA:I is a video game.

 

Well people will have an opinion then on said characters and their romance arcs. Just chill out dude.


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BioWare doesn't create romances for straight, gay, or bisexual gamers.

 

BioWare creates characters who are straight, gay, or bisexual.

True enough. But Bioware's final goal should be playability. In a real world I could date anyone, in DAI it's Bioware that sets my limits. Thus the complaint. 


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Romances should never be the main focus when creating a character.


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True enough. But Bioware's final goal should be playability. In a real world I could date anyone, in DAI it's Bioware that sets my limits. Thus the complaint. 

 

In the real world you could date anyone? Well, someone thinks very highly of themselves.


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Romances should never be the main focus when creating a character.

 

While this is very true we know that this is not how things always work here....



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True enough. But Bioware's final goal should be playability. In a real world I could date anyone, in DAI it's Bioware that sets my limits. Thus the complaint. 

 

In theory, yes.  In practice, not exactly.


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In the real world you could date anyone? Well, someone thinks very highly of themselves.

Haha I didn't meant it that way... :) Anyway, I didn't create my char to have romance, but as I previously stated, romances are a way of living a deeper story...so why not? Being forced to play female just because she has more ways to go simply looks like a limit to me. That said, I have a male Qunari, and I paid little to no attention to the romance area of the game.


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BioWare doesn't create romances for straight, gay, or bisexual gamers.

 

BioWare creates characters who are straight, gay, or bisexual.

 

This is a really good point.  People tend to get it mixed up because they prefer to only play characters of a particular gender/sexuality combination.  But the reality is that it's the characters who have romances created for them.  Not the players.  Dorian is a romance for gay male characters; not gay male players.  The two areas might overlap in many ways, but there have been many, many players who aren't gay males who have enjoyed that romance (my brother is a very typical "Gamer Dude Bro" type and Dorian is his 'canon' romance just because he liked him better than the other LI's for male characters).  And there are many, many gay male players who have played characters who aren't gay males.  My lady dwarf happily romanced Blackwall after giving some serious courtship to Sera. 

 

I can understand not wanting to play certain content.  I have a very hard time playing a straight male character is there is the option to play anything else.  But I recognize that that's on me and, if that's a choice that I want to make, then I need to live with the consequences.


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Haha I didn't meant it that way... :) Anyway, I didn't create my char to have romance, but as I previously stated, romances are a way of living a deeper story...so why not? Being forced to play female just because she has more ways to go simply looks like a limit to me. That said, I have a male Qunari, and I paid little to no attention to the romance area of the game.

 

This isn't anything new for Bioware, though.  There has, literally, never been a Bioware game where the options are even across gender/sexuality demographics.  It's not how they do things.  The only one that comes close is DA2 vanilla without Sebastian's DLC. 

 

Straight male characters have had the most or tied for the most options in every single Bioware game outside of DA2 and DA:I.  There have been 11 Bioware games with romances and straight males have had the most or tied for the most in 9 out of 11.  That's a pretty good record.  Personally, I'd like to see equal options just so we don't get so many complaint threads about the skewed numbers.  But, if it's got to be uneven, I don't think it's a terrible thing for it to be skewed in favor of a different demographic. 


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While this is very true we know that this is not how things always work here....

 

I didnt mean us the players, I meant Bioware when creating the many different characters we have all come to know and love.



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Well people will have an opinion then on said characters and their romance arcs.

 

People have an opinion on anything. I don't consider someone's personal sexual tastes to be a valid metric by which to judge video game quality.

 

Just chill out dude.

 

If you don't like reading opinions you disagree with, wouldn't it be more efficient to stop reading the forum than to try and convince someone to stop posting an opinion that you don't like?



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As soon as you start designing romances in regards to the players in any other way than representing as many sexualities as possible, it loses its touch entirely.

 

Starting to sound like a broken record here, but the more tailored you make romances, the less remarkable the experience gets.

 

I'm serious when I say, as someone who finds himself drawn to Vivienne, I appreciate the fact that she simply does not reciprocate my character's advances; in a convincing way. Sometimes, you walk into a room and you don't want to get with any of them. Sometimes, conditions are perfect, but it just isn't there.

 

And sometimes, they already have an a-thousand-year-old boyfriend and only artifically maintain their youthful appearance, anyways.


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As a straight man, I've long since gotten tired of threads like these popping up because of the shallowest of reasons.


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People have an opinion on anything. I don't consider someone's personal sexual tastes to be a valid metric by which to judge video game quality.

 

 

If you don't like reading opinions you disagree with, wouldn't it be more efficient to stop reading the forum than to try and convince someone to stop posting an opinion that you don't like?

 

It's not your opinion it's your attitude that feels wrong.

 

Also the internet! I have my metric and as far as it is concerned for me those metrics are as much valid as yours. You don't like my metric? Then follow your own suggestion!


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People have an opinion on anything. I don't consider someone's personal sexual tastes to be a valid metric by which to judge video game quality.

 

 

If you don't like reading opinions you disagree with, wouldn't it be more efficient to stop reading the forum than to try and convince someone to stop posting an opinion that you don't like?

I don't think he's saying DAI is a bad game... And this is, tbh, one of the least important post/complain ever made..:) He just stated he would have preferred more options... I think it can just be ended here without insulting each other ;)


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Calls Cassandra bitchy, then adds that he likes Sera. Are you sure you base your taste on their personality and not appearance?

 

There is a difference between a b1tch, and a being a crazy b1tch   ;)

 

I honestly don't understand how anyone could dislike Sera.  Putting her in the same category as Cassandra is....odd.  

 

 

 

Edit: You can say bitchy but not ******? Strange



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Lol Cassandra...b**chy? Despite appearances, she's one of the more amenable companions in the game. Now, Vivi, well. She's mastered the art.
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True enough. But Bioware's final goal should be playability. In a real world I could date anyone, in DAI it's Bioware that sets my limits. Thus the complaint. 

 

BioWare isn't limiting who you can date in their game because you can't date any of the characters in the game.

 

Designing all the characters to make them sexually pleasing to every imaginable taste would not only be impossible, it has nothing to do with BioWare's goals when making the game (the developers themselves have addressed this quite a bit.)

 

Imagine we did away with characters like Darth Vader or Grand Moff Tarkin because they weren't "sexy" enough.


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Imagine we did away with characters like Darth Vader or Grand Moff Tarkin because they weren't "sexy" enough.

 

As if James Earl Jones and Sherlock Holmes weren't smoking.


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#72
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It's not your opinion it's your attitude that feels wrong.

 

If you don't have an issue with my opinion, it's just me that you don't like, then I have to tell you that I'm not particularly bothered by being disliked by someone that I know nothing about.

 

Also the internet! I have my metric and as far as it is concerned for me those metrics are as much valid as yours. You don't like my metric? Then follow your own suggestion!

 

There's no reason for me to follow my own suggestion, as I'm not bothered by reading opinions that I disagree with.



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As if James Earl Jones and Sherlock Holmes weren't smoking.

 

Touché!


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that prefers to play a straight male character most of the time, I am thoroughly disappointed with the viable romance options that I am given. It's either Cassandra or Josephine, neither of which are very appealing to me. I hate hoity toity rich nobles and the game (politics) so Josephine is not compatible at all and the seeker is too bitchy. I did romance Cassandra because she was the preferable of the two options, but I still am not thrilled with her. I realize the romance is just an optional part of the game, but to opt out simply because I don't particularly like either of my very limited options is nowhere near the same as opting out because I wanted to play a pious inquisitor who has no time for romance. I really like Sera, but she doesn't like wieners so she's not available (gonna play a female next go around just so I can romance her). I don't like Vivienne at all, see above comments about Josephine then multiple by 5, but it wouldn't matter if I did like her because she shuts you down real fast if you try. Since there are already threads devoted to her I won't rant about it here but we can flirt our asses off with Scout Harding but it never actually develops. 

 

I really hope next time around, assuming there's a DA4, we have more options. (also, give us dwarf romance options, damn it, male and female. I <3 dwarves)

 

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Edit: You can say bitchy but not ******? Strange

 

The censors on here are weird.  You get used to it.

 

Lol Cassandra...b**chy? Despite appearances, she's one of the more amenable companions in the game. Now, Vivi, well. She's mastered the art.

 

Cassandra can seem a bit bitchy occasionally, but most times she's fairly agreeable.  I think that people are just confusing her 'no nonsense' personality as her being 'bitchy'.


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